NY 183 - Apocalypse Mafia

elusive · Post Post #4150 (ISO) » Mon Jun 22, 2015 4:32 pm

I have two Rubicon!!! 2 completed scum games, you bad stalker

Nero Cain · Post Post #4151 (ISO) » Mon Jun 22, 2015 4:48 pm

In post 4129, Vampirate wrote:Pretty much, at this point i'm inclined to go for Nero because of his denial of being Ascetic and already claiming townie.

So I shouldn't claim town as town?

I'm denying being ascetic 'cause I'm not.

In post 4133, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:RIP claims to have been role-blocked somehow

RIP hasn't been roleblocked 'cause he claimed he was out of shots, usually X-shots still have their powers if they are unable to perform said action.

In post 4135, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:I also disliked his abandonment of his sure read once a bigger wagon took off (can't remember who it was on). I'm sure I have explained this somewhere

yes me sitting on Boons while there was no chance of getting Boons lynched was "abandoning".

So here are my questions for you.

1. Why should I have stubbornly refused to move my vote from Boons?

2. Why did you think the Jbomb case was weak?

In post 4146, Vampirate wrote:As for Nero, if someone put a rolestopper on him claimign anytime would be great.

Why are you so certian that players that have an action used on them is notified?

Nero Cain · Post Post #4152 (ISO) » Mon Jun 22, 2015 4:55 pm

In post 4138, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Everyone has claimed.

There is no JK.

If there's a scum jailkeep, rolestopper etc. they aren't going to claim it. You know better than that.

Rubicon · Post Post #4153 (ISO) » Mon Jun 22, 2015 5:00 pm

Apparently, normal guidelines say blocked shots count as used.

In post 4150, elusive wrote:I have two Rubicon!!! 2 completed scum games, you bad stalker

Oh no, I skimmed through that one as well (ha), but you seemed to be the only member of your faction.

Nero Cain · Post Post #4154 (ISO) » Mon Jun 22, 2015 5:30 pm

I still think that 5 prs make sense. If we are going to say that Boons was an unrecruitable traitor and Elusive was the scum shot on n1 then ok. And that Peace's track on Drixx makes him not scum 'cause for RIP to get a no result on my then fine. So we are left with a Vamp/Rubi poe list.

lynch order

Vampirate
Rubicon
Nero
Drixx
RIP
BlueBloodedToffee
elusive
Grib
davesaz

vote:Vamp

Drixx · Post Post #4155 (ISO) » Mon Jun 22, 2015 6:14 pm

Rubicon is totally a stalker. Also Nero just made a kill order list which is scummy. Back in a bit.

Rubicon · Post Post #4156 (ISO) » Mon Jun 22, 2015 6:25 pm

In post 4154, Nero Cain wrote:I still think that 5 prs make sense. If we are going to say that Boons was an unrecruitable traitor and Elusive was the scum shot on n1 then ok. And that Peace's track on Drixx makes him not scum 'cause for RIP to get a no result on my then fine. So we are left with a Vamp/Rubi poe list.

Nero Cain · Post Post #4157 (ISO) » Mon Jun 22, 2015 8:51 pm

Well who is scum?

I'm town.
I'm assuming that all the prs are town.
Elusive's play sucks but I'm willing to believe that she's town.
Drixx is scummy useless but I can understand that he no actioned and thus couldn't have rolestopped me, jailkept RIP or roleblocked RIP.
Dave is prob town unless he's a GF.

elusive · Post Post #4158 (ISO) » Tue Jun 23, 2015 3:32 am

Listen scum, I'm just saying based on my Wiki thing its looking bad. My town game percentage is a failing grade and we are not used to failing so give up now.

I think Drixx lynch makes the most sense to me at this point and don't know why he keep surviving lynch. Why does anyone think he has no action? Remember PB tracked KC and thought she was town for some reason as well and there's the missing NK UNLESS SOME TOWN OR THIRD PARTY IS NOT TELLING US A MAJOR THING.

Vampirate · Post Post #4159 (ISO) » Tue Jun 23, 2015 3:37 am

Just lynch either Vamp, Drixx, Nero in any order you want.

VOTE: Nero Cain

Saying you're town 1000 times doesn't make it so.

At some point whether i'm alive or dead people will need to figure out what to do with this slot.

Shinobi · Post Post #4160 (ISO) » Tue Jun 23, 2015 3:57 am

Vote Count

Nero Cain

(2):

BlueBloodedToffee, Vampirate

Grib

(1):

RIP

Vampirate

(1):

Nero Cain

Not Voting

(5):

elusive, Grib, davesaz, Rubicon, Drixx

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

Deadline

: (expired on 2015-07-04 17:00:00)

Rubicon · Post Post #4161 (ISO) » Tue Jun 23, 2015 6:07 am

In post 4157, Nero Cain wrote:Well who is scum?

I'm town.
I'm assuming that all the prs are town.
Elusive's play sucks but I'm willing to believe that she's town.
Drixx is scummy useless but I can understand that he no actioned and thus couldn't have rolestopped me, jailkept RIP or roleblocked RIP.
Dave is prob town unless he's a GF.

I don't know. However, I'm town because of the no-kill.

In post 4158, elusive wrote:I think Drixx lynch makes the most sense to me at this point and don't know why he keep surviving lynch. Why does anyone think he has no action? Remember PB tracked KC and thought she was town for some reason as well and there's the missing NK UNLESS SOME TOWN OR THIRD PARTY IS NOT TELLING US A MAJOR THING.

The thing about PB tracking him nowhere is that he couldn't have roleblocked RIP. So if there is only one scum left (and that's an "if") then I guess it can't be him.

RIP · Post Post #4162 (ISO) » Tue Jun 23, 2015 8:59 am

I'll be here later. My break is over
I been reading and think about something. I think we are blind and the answer is probably out there in front of us.
I'm gonna read the dead players cuz there's a reason they are dead if it was by Nk

RIP · Post Post #4163 (ISO) » Tue Jun 23, 2015 9:01 am

I also believe rub I must be town if bbt is doctor.

davesaz · Post Post #4164 (ISO) » Tue Jun 23, 2015 10:06 am

I'm really beginning to suspect BBT. His normally aggressive scum hunting is absent, and a fake doc claim is trivial to make on a no-kill night. Doubly so if it hides the obvious fact that the no-kill could be because a likely scum suspect was flaked at the time. He could even be the scum who didn't submit the kill, for that matter, even on purpose for the obvtown doc claim. The only risk would be if there was a counter claim, and we already have doubled roles (presumed town) which means a counter claim could be WIFOM'd away with ease.

Grib · Post Post #4165 (ISO) » Tue Jun 23, 2015 11:16 am

VOTE: Drixx

RIP · Post Post #4166 (ISO) » Tue Jun 23, 2015 11:45 am

Dave bbt is confirm town

Rubicon · Post Post #4167 (ISO) » Tue Jun 23, 2015 12:04 pm

In post 4164, davesaz wrote:I'm really beginning to suspect BBT. His normally aggressive scum hunting is absent, and a fake doc claim is trivial to make on a no-kill night. Doubly so if it hides the obvious fact that the no-kill could be because a likely scum suspect was flaked at the time. He could even be the scum who didn't submit the kill, for that matter, even on purpose for the obvtown doc claim. The only risk would be if there was a counter claim, and we already have doubled roles (presumed town) which means a counter claim could be WIFOM'd away with ease.

RIP says he checked BBT/errant as town.

Rubicon · Post Post #4168 (ISO) » Tue Jun 23, 2015 12:16 pm

Claimed night actions:

Night 1

Ricastle tells Vampirate he is town.
BlueBloodedToffee protects elusive.
Grib checks davesaz (town).
PeaceBringer tracks Klingoncelt (goes nowhere).
The mafia shoot either (a) elusive or (b) Boonskiies or (c) no one.
Ika roleblocks ???.

Night 2

Ricastle tells PointYBagelS he is town.
BlueBloodedToffee protects Grib.
Grib shoots Boonskiies.
PeaceBringer tracks elusive (goes nowhere).
The mafia shoot Creative.
Ika roleblocks ???.

Night 3

BlueBloodedToffee protects no one.
Grib protects PeaceBringer.
RIP checks BlueBloodedToffee (town).
PeaceBringer tracks PointYBagelS (goes nowhere).
The mafia shoot Ricastle.
Ika roleblocks ???.

Night 4

PeaceBringer tracks Taly (goes nowhere).
BlueBloodedToffee protects Rubicon.
RIP checks Nero Cain (no result).
The mafia shoot either (a) Rubicon or (b) no one.

Night 5

PeaceBringer tracks someone (not claimed).
BlueBloodedToffee protects no one.
The mafia shoot PeaceBringer.

Rubicon · Post Post #4169 (ISO) » Tue Jun 23, 2015 12:26 pm

It would have made sense for PeaceBringer to target Nero to see if he was ascetic. So perhaps PB was killed first to prevent Nero from being confirmed one way or another?

Rubicon · Post Post #4170 (ISO) » Tue Jun 23, 2015 1:32 pm

Drixx, how much longer are you going to be?

Drixx · Post Post #4171 (ISO) » Tue Jun 23, 2015 1:36 pm

I really don't see anything that I can defend myself with. I'm being suspected for mechanics reasons and not something that came out of my slot. Either you believe my claim and I keep trying to see if I can spot the scum narrative slip that I know has to be there in a game 4200 posts long ... or you can lynch me if that somehow helps town. I'm not a PR, and the only thing I bring to the table is rational analysis of the game. I believe my best play is in the late game figuring out where scum narratives had to adjust for unexpected things, but that takes time and work to figure out. I've got a white board with some thoughts scribbled on it, but I wouldn't be the game on any specific person being scum just yet.

I'm dumping as much time as I have into this game right now.

RIP · Post Post #4172 (ISO) » Tue Jun 23, 2015 1:51 pm

Lol. I actually want to see this white board.
That's pretty cool if you not lying. Proof or didn't happen

Grib · Post Post #4173 (ISO) » Tue Jun 23, 2015 2:01 pm

Drixx, you've been hyping up your catch-up post(s) for a while now.

We can only take your word for it for so long.

Nero Cain · Post Post #4174 (ISO) » Tue Jun 23, 2015 2:09 pm

In post 4171, Drixx wrote:I'm being suspected for mechanics reasons

lol no. Yo are being suspected 'cause you are doing shit all.