MINI 1688 — BEES!!! — game over

Metal Sonic · Post Post #875 (ISO) » Fri Jun 26, 2015 6:20 am

Hi frogger!

In post 872, Fro99er wrote:You went after Glork because he was the tougher player to get rid of, so it would be good for scum!Tammy to get rid of the tough players and leave the "weaker" players (read: me).

why can't scum!Tammy NK glork instead?

Not_Mafia · Post Post #876 (ISO) » Fri Jun 26, 2015 6:22 am

Hey Fr099er

Page 2 and GC is being weird, Fro99er might be trying too hard

Metal Sonic · Post Post #877 (ISO) » Fri Jun 26, 2015 6:23 am

In post 872, Fro99er wrote:Read Bella's ISO...she kept voting then not following up on her reads, and all she wanted to do was fit in.

okay, I see this. Bella's ISO is NOT good.

what I DO know, is that she has a history of having not good ISOs as town.

frogger can you compare this game with what you saw in Ori of her?

Fro99er · Post Post #878 (ISO) » Fri Jun 26, 2015 6:23 am

In post 875, Metal Sonic wrote:Hi frogger!

In post 872, Fro99er wrote:You went after Glork because he was the tougher player to get rid of, so it would be good for scum!Tammy to get rid of the tough players and leave the "weaker" players (read: me).

why can't scum!Tammy NK glork instead?

I guess so. I don't see in her walls if she ever said that though. Wouldn't that be a point she'd want to get acorss right away?

Metal Sonic · Post Post #879 (ISO) » Fri Jun 26, 2015 6:25 am

In post 878, Fro99er wrote:
In post 875, Metal Sonic wrote:Hi frogger!

In post 872, Fro99er wrote:You went after Glork because he was the tougher player to get rid of, so it would be good for scum!Tammy to get rid of the tough players and leave the "weaker" players (read: me).

why can't scum!Tammy NK glork instead?

I guess so. I don't see in her walls if she ever said that though. Wouldn't that be a point she'd want to get acorss right away?

I don't understand what you mean here.

Fro99er · Post Post #880 (ISO) » Fri Jun 26, 2015 6:26 am

Why wouldn't Tammy just point out that she could NK Glork? She never pointed it out once in all her walls, and that's the first thing you thought of.

Metal Sonic · Post Post #881 (ISO) » Fri Jun 26, 2015 6:27 am

In post 872, Fro99er wrote:If so what do you think of RC's case on UT (now ETL) in 654?

I think RC's case on UT is pretty solid. In fact, it is pretty good, yeah.

but I can read ETL (or at least i think I can, she might change her tactics after I caught her as scum twice)

I want to interact with both RC and ETL.

I don't want either of them to be on the table today, i don't think. not within 72 hours, no.

Metal Sonic · Post Post #882 (ISO) » Fri Jun 26, 2015 6:28 am

In post 880, Fro99er wrote:Why wouldn't Tammy just point out that she could NK Glork?

Why would she?

Metal Sonic · Post Post #883 (ISO) » Fri Jun 26, 2015 6:28 am

you have to understand that I have no idea of the context of whatever is happening here. so you're going to have to spell out stuff for me. since i'm the 'outsider'

Not_Mafia · Post Post #884 (ISO) » Fri Jun 26, 2015 6:29 am

In post 60, Green Crayons wrote:ugh stop it you scumbag

No scumbag,

you

stop it

Fro99er · Post Post #885 (ISO) » Fri Jun 26, 2015 6:31 am

@Metal - As far as Bella and Ori, I didn't pay attention much to her D1, and you know that because of Mollie running the hydra. D2 I left her to Tere, and D3 I sorted her as town. But I never scumread Bella in that game when I did pay attention to her. But I know that game she wasn't pushed into voting someone like she was (twice) here and she didn't appear to be trying to appease town. Going back through her ISO in that game, she spoke with more conviction in that game than in this one

I'm happy to put my vote back here.

VOTE: MS

I highly doubt this will flip town. If it does, we're looking at wni/boo over froggingmollie, as I struggle to see she'd scum-tunnel this hard. Also, I'm still willing to follow ika's read on her. Re-reading Ika's ISO, I think there were enough hints there about the neighbourhood to make his frustration seem genuine.

She tried to figure out the game in that one (setup spec, where to go if you flipped town, etc.).

Green Crayons · Post Post #886 (ISO) » Fri Jun 26, 2015 6:35 am

In post 880, Fro99er wrote:Why wouldn't Tammy just point out that she could NK Glork? She never pointed it out once in all her walls, and that's the first thing you thought of.

Sonic asked why Tammy-scum would feel the need to attack Glork-town when she could just NK him.

Why would Tammy-scum say "OH NVM GLORK I'm just going to kill you tonight because I'm scum!", which is what your post here is saying she would have done.

Green Crayons · Post Post #887 (ISO) » Fri Jun 26, 2015 6:35 am

In post 884, Not_Mafia wrote:
In post 60, Green Crayons wrote:ugh stop it you scumbag

No scumbag,
you
stop it

Salty.

Metal Sonic · Post Post #888 (ISO) » Fri Jun 26, 2015 6:37 am

Do Bella's 207, 215, 236 not seem to be with conviction?

And, even if I conceded that Bella indeed is scummy,

can you show me what you think about tammy?

Fro99er · Post Post #889 (ISO) » Fri Jun 26, 2015 6:37 am

In post 882, Metal Sonic wrote:
In post 880, Fro99er wrote:Why wouldn't Tammy just point out that she could NK Glork?

Why would she?

Because if she had simply said that, it would have changed how I viewed her push on Glork. If she pointed out she could just night kill Glork, that would be an almost insta-town tell because scum!Tammy would have no reason to point out who she would night kill.

Pedit: GC I think we're in agreement. Had Tammy just said that, it would be an insta town tell. So why didn't she just say that

Metal Sonic · Post Post #890 (ISO) » Fri Jun 26, 2015 6:37 am

In post 886, Green Crayons wrote:
In post 880, Fro99er wrote:Why wouldn't Tammy just point out that she could NK Glork? She never pointed it out once in all her walls, and that's the first thing you thought of.

Sonic asked why Tammy-scum would feel the need to attack Glork-town when she could just NK him.

Why would Tammy-scum say "OH NVM GLORK I'm just going to kill you tonight because I'm scum!", which is what your post here is saying she would have done.

thanks, mr translator c:

holy crap, you joined in 2012. WOW

Metal Sonic · Post Post #891 (ISO) » Fri Jun 26, 2015 6:38 am

In post 889, Fro99er wrote:If she pointed out she could just night kill Glork, that would be an almost insta-town tell because scum!Tammy would have no reason to point out who she would night kill.

This doesn't make sense at all?

???????????

Metal Sonic · Post Post #892 (ISO) » Fri Jun 26, 2015 6:39 am

In post 890, Metal Sonic wrote:holy crap, you joined in 2012. WOW

2002, not 2012

wow WOW

Fro99er · Post Post #893 (ISO) » Fri Jun 26, 2015 6:39 am

In post 888, Metal Sonic wrote:can you show me what you think about tammy?

See the bottom section of my 672

Green Crayons · Post Post #894 (ISO) » Fri Jun 26, 2015 6:39 am

In post 889, Fro99er wrote:Pedit: GC I think we're in agreement. Had Tammy just said that, it would be an insta town tell. So why didn't she just say that

I don't understand? Why would Tammy

ever

say "I'm going to NK you tonight"?

That's claiming scum.

Green Crayons · Post Post #895 (ISO) » Fri Jun 26, 2015 6:40 am

In post 892, Metal Sonic wrote:
In post 890, Metal Sonic wrote:holy crap, you joined in 2012. WOW

2002, not 2012

wow WOW

FWIW, I don't live up to the hype.

Fro99er · Post Post #896 (ISO) » Fri Jun 26, 2015 6:42 am

In post 894, Green Crayons wrote:
In post 889, Fro99er wrote:Pedit: GC I think we're in agreement. Had Tammy just said that, it would be an insta town tell. So why didn't she just say that

I don't understand? Why would Tammy
ever
say "I'm going to NK you tonight"?

That's claiming scum.

Ok, let's step back for a second.

Town tammy would say "if I were scum!Tammy, I would just NK Glork instead of push for his mislynch. The fact that I'm pushing for a Glork lynch instead of just waiting on a NK would make me town"

had she said that, I would have realized she's NOT scum.

Green Crayons · Post Post #897 (ISO) » Fri Jun 26, 2015 6:44 am

I knew there was miscommunication happening somewhere. Now I understand what you're saying. Computing.

Fro99er · Post Post #898 (ISO) » Fri Jun 26, 2015 6:45 am

So, the fact that she never said the easy option that Sonic pointed out in 2 seconds, makes me worry.

Green Crayons · Post Post #899 (ISO) » Fri Jun 26, 2015 6:47 am

Alright, I don't think I agree that Tammy's saying or not saying that principle speaks to her alignment.

I do think that having people think that sentiment - why go after the hard target when she could just NK him? - is I guess a valid reason why Tammy-scum would have gone after Glork-scum. Kinda undercut by the fact that Tammy isn't the one pushing that justification (so I guess I do think it would be more suspicious if she actually said that).

Also, the entire question - why would Tammy-scum go after a hard target? - is based on the notion that Glork-town is a "hard" target to mislynch, which he didn't seem to think to be the case.