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Post Post #1100 (ISO) » Fri Jun 26, 2015 11:50 pm

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I can analyze ducks' poems through its use of diction, language, and most importantly, structure :)
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Post Post #1101 (ISO) » Fri Jun 26, 2015 11:55 pm

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My laptop has gone rogue. The slim possibility of me SUPEREFFORTING before deadline has vanished.
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Post Post #1102 (ISO) » Fri Jun 26, 2015 11:56 pm

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I'll go ahead and claim Backup IC (yup same thing as TTH).
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Post Post #1103 (ISO) » Sat Jun 27, 2015 1:33 am

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Chaos I really don't like your vote on NM who is actually contributing and adding to the discussion.
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Post Post #1104 (ISO) » Sat Jun 27, 2015 1:34 am

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Is this a Normal??
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Post Post #1105 (ISO) » Sat Jun 27, 2015 2:07 am

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In post 1079, BBmolla wrote:can someone summarize claims

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BBmolla/Tammy/Bellaphant: vanilla townie
lalaladucks: vanilla townie
Not_Mafia/The Bulge: vanilla citizen (claimed x2) and a vanilla villager (claimed x1)
SleepyKrew/Kitty Galore: backup IC (same as dead TTH)


ChaosOmega/Tere/Bob Loblaw: no claim
Fro99er: no claim
Metal Sonic/Glork: no claim
Green Crayons: no claim
KayP: no claim
RedCoyote/Shadoxx8: no claim
EspeciallyTheLies/Untrod Tripod: no claim


I thought Glork had claimed VT in his last post, but I see I was incorrect.
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Post Post #1106 (ISO) » Sat Jun 27, 2015 2:22 am

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In post 1103, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:Chaos I really don't like your vote on NM who is actually contributing and adding to the discussion.

Why on earth would someone contributing to the discussion mean that they aren't scum
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Post Post #1107 (ISO) » Sat Jun 27, 2015 2:28 am

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I don't think he's scum.
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Post Post #1108 (ISO) » Sat Jun 27, 2015 2:30 am

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Bulge had no content but slot isn't scummy because NM is doing effort catchup.

Kitty had no content and slot is scummy because SK isn't doing effort catchup.


Did I accurately capture your position on these slots?
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Post Post #1109 (ISO) » Sat Jun 27, 2015 2:31 am

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In post 1108, Green Crayons wrote:Bulge had no content but slot isn't scummy because NM is doing effort catchup.

Kitty had no content and slot is scummy because SK isn't doing effort catchup.


Did I accurately capture your position on these slots?

No.
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Post Post #1110 (ISO) » Sat Jun 27, 2015 2:32 am

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Well that's what I got from you ISO.

Please explain.
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Post Post #1111 (ISO) » Sat Jun 27, 2015 2:33 am

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Skrew has been here and reading, as I pointed out yesterday, and yet makes no comments about anyone or anything. Yet you can't see the scum motivation in that?

NM is actually trying to understand the game, asking questions, ya know, scum hunting.

To reduce my argument to catch up/no catch up is disingenuous.
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Post Post #1112 (ISO) » Sat Jun 27, 2015 2:34 am

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Not to mention the serious effort to keep Skrew alive and lynch NM instead.
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Post Post #1113 (ISO) » Sat Jun 27, 2015 2:35 am

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also... um... two "backup ICs" in a Normal game? no.
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Post Post #1114 (ISO) » Sat Jun 27, 2015 2:37 am

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Also bulge and Kitty ISOs are distinctly different in motivation. Bulge wanted to and couldn't. Kitty didn't even try.
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Post Post #1115 (ISO) » Sat Jun 27, 2015 2:39 am

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No, I do not see the scum motivation of showing up and being like "yup, I'm worthless."

In fact, it appears counter-intuitive to how scum would want to present themselves to the town, and scum would have to hope that town would bypass the initial "ugh lynch this worthless slot," which is not unlikely in the abstract, is pretty unlikely in the situation we're faced: a deadline looming and not many lynch candidates on the floor.



I also don't see how I was wrong: you're faulting for SK for not providing game reads by way of reading through the thread (he's only read up to page 8 or whatever), but you're crediting NM for his active/developing reads by way of reading through the thread (he's read up through page 20 or whatever). So: effort catchup.


I looked through Kitty's ISO. There were a few things that looked weird, but nothing lightning bolt alignment indicative.

Bulge wanted to and couldn't. Kitty didn't even try.
No? Bulge just graduated HS, but Kitty just got a new job.
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Post Post #1116 (ISO) » Sat Jun 27, 2015 2:40 am

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In post 1113, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:also... um... two "backup ICs" in a Normal game? no.

I thought this was weird too, but what's the Normal Game rule that's being broken?
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Post Post #1117 (ISO) » Sat Jun 27, 2015 2:41 am

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In post 1112, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:Not to mention the serious effort to keep Skrew alive and lynch NM instead.

This is funny, because I actually think the scenario is flipped: keep NM alive and lynch SK
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Post Post #1118 (ISO) » Sat Jun 27, 2015 2:43 am

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In post 1116, Green Crayons wrote:
In post 1113, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:also... um... two "backup ICs" in a Normal game? no.

I thought this was weird too, but what's the Normal Game rule that's being broken?

Oh, like, if the IC died then we'd have two "replacement" ICs?

Like we'd sudden have two ICs if the original IC died? Is that possible, since they're both to take the single slot?

Maybe there isn't an IC.
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Post Post #1119 (ISO) » Sat Jun 27, 2015 2:44 am

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In post 1115, Green Crayons wrote:No, I do not see the scum motivation of showing up and being like "yup, I'm worthless."

:roll: That is a problem with you then, not the case. I've seen scum do this a ton of times, because it fucking works. Look at you, eating it up. "Admitting to being crappy" doesn't change the end result of being crappy.

I don't really care to argue this anymore.

p-edit: Ok. Not really.

p-edit: Maybe that's just fuckin wonky. You can only have one non-normal role in the game.
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Post Post #1120 (ISO) » Sat Jun 27, 2015 2:44 am

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It's a crap claim from a crap slot. Fucking lynch it.
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Post Post #1121 (ISO) » Sat Jun 27, 2015 2:45 am

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Like, how can you sit there and excuse blatantly refusing to contribute, a bad claim, and actively lurking?
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Post Post #1122 (ISO) » Sat Jun 27, 2015 2:45 am

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Versus lynching someone because you have a null read on the slot......

HELLO? WHAT ARE YOU SMOKING? CAN I HAVE SOME?
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Post Post #1123 (ISO) » Sat Jun 27, 2015 2:47 am

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You're not very good at this whole discussing things, bit.

Never mind.
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Post Post #1124 (ISO) » Sat Jun 27, 2015 2:47 am

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In post 1119, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:

p-edit: Maybe that's just fuckin wonky. You can only have one non-normal role in the game.

I believe backup IC is a normal role though.

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