Mini 1687: Refraction Mafia (WINNER!)

[Fro99er]

Also, I mean, all Shin did was agree with you. He might not have been thinking those things.

Shin also pointed out something that I agreed with, BEFORE I posted too. I can go dig up that post too.

I'm not scum if that's where you're going.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Shin has a lot of posts, a lot more than I'm used to seeing from him.

Skimming his ISO though, not a lot of it is alignment indicative. I also noticed it's not the first time he has quoted someone else's posts and added 'that's what I was thinking.'

[Aeronaut]

Ok. I've deleted any suspect posts that may have crossed a line / broken a rule. If you were here to see the post, please use common sense, replacing-wise. It was nobody's fault, but please understand that that sort of thing is taken extremely seriously at MS, and just to be more careful in general.

Also, I understand that it's close to DL and things are going to be heated, but please remember that Rule #6 is still and always will be in effect.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

I'm pretty sure you're town, I'm just trying to understand your reads/posts because we're at polar opposites right now

[Fro99er]

Ok. My town read on Bella isn't strong. I do think she's trying to figure things out though. I'll at least let her slide for now.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Because at the time I was unsure on math. That was post 372. We're over post 1000 now. My reads are allowed to change, no?

Has Math posted a whole lot after 372?

If so, which posts in particular did you dislike?

[texcat]

I'm OK with either Tool or Persivul as the lynch.

VOTE: Persivul

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Tex, why not Thor?

[Aeronaut]

VC 1.18

VoteCount 1.18

Persivul

-

Lapsa, Fro99er, texcat

(L-4)

toolenduso

-

Shinobi, Bellaphant

(L-5)

CB -

Bellaphant -

Zoronos

(L-6)

Thor665 -

BlueBloodedToffee, Plotinus, toolenduso

(L-4)

Shinobi -

texcat -

Plotinus

-

Fro99er

-

BlueBloodedToffee -

abuse

-

CB

(L-6)

Lapsa

-

Zoronos

-

Thor665, abuse

(L-5)

Not Voting

- Persivul

With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch!

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[toolenduso]

As much as I hate to admit this, Frog's random redirection to Persivul strikes me as being a very odd thing for scum in his position to do. It looks very paranoid.

Not sure if it's enough to tear down my whole read on him or anything but...worth noting.

[Fro99er]

Because at the time I was unsure on math. That was post 372. We're over post 1000 now. My reads are allowed to change, no?

Has Math posted a whole lot after 372?

If so, which posts in particular did you dislike?

The push on Tex in 389 was particularly bad.

[Persivul]

VOTE: Thor

[BlueBloodedToffee]

The push on Tex in 389 was particularly bad.

Agreed. Anything else?

VOTE: Thor

Why?

[Bellaphant]

Interested in this: math was an early scum read, but in the Zor/Math/Thor I ended up way more focused on Zor. Also, tool's reconsideration of Frog makes me wonder...

Tool, why Thor? Does Pers' vote make you think differently?

BBT, thoughts on Shinobi? Also, are you town-reading Tex?

[BlueBloodedToffee]

BBT, thoughts on Shinobi? Also, are you town-reading Tex?

I have literally just answered both of these questions.

This is what I mean about Bella, Fro99er. She asks a lot of questions that have either a) been answered or b) don't really go anywhere.

It's doing things to 'look busy'.

[Thor665]

Aside from Persivul, those are my town reads, who are finally voting for my scum read. I was having second thoughts when Persivul voted, but I see he unvoted. Life is good. And it's Friday.

How do you have a townread on Shinobi? I could grok a nullish read - but town?

Tex Shin def town. Bella prob town. Pers ???????

Frog? Dunno about that guy

Same for you, but for both Shinobi and Tex - you town read those slots? Why?

Yes. Definite bias in this because you are approaching this with a much harsher view of my motivations than anyone else's:

I agree this is an issue, and I agree it's an issue he's doing it - but didn't you LITERALLY just get done telling me you were okay with this when Zor did it and also that you do it yourself?

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[Lapsa]

Here is your wagon of choice (with a solo vote on it) and the alternate top wagons.
Why are you not voting the red top wagon at this stage in time?
It lacks logic.
Functionally - you're voting me by voting Mathdino.

Thor-3
Persivul-4
Tool-5, Zor-5

argument has become invalid. vote stays

[Fro99er]

BBT - Mathdino's 591. Says he's played with scum!Tex before, and will read up on that one. Why was that not a factor BEFORE the tex push? Also, given we think the tex push was bad and they've played with scum!tex before, then it certainly feels contrived from my POV.

[Fro99er]

Same for you, but for both Shinobi

Just stated this. Read above or the prior page.

[Bellaphant]

@BBT, I can see you are 'unsure' and some of his posts are alignment indicative, and I can infer a negative reaction to him agreeing with things (which may or may not be indicative) and you didn't like his tex push. But it seems a little fence sitty to me, hence me prodding at it. The tex one I'll give you, that was stupid of me.

Also, I disagree with 'looking busy'. I've stated reads, I've questions to develop these, I've interacted with players I'm not sure of, like Shinobi. Part of your push on me feels like you are frustrated me/more people aren't sheeping you on your Thor case.

While you are here, talk to me about your read on Plot? It seems quite flipfloppy, and I'd like to understand that.

[Fro99er]

My two strongest scum reads are on the thor wagon FWIW

[BlueBloodedToffee]

@BBT, I can see you are 'unsure' and some of his posts are alignment indicative, and I can infer a negative reaction to him agreeing with things (which may or may not be indicative) and you didn't like his tex push. But it seems a little fence sitty to me, hence me prodding at it.

You're correct, I'm fence sitting on Shin, I don't have a read on him one way or the other.

Also, I disagree with 'looking busy'. I've stated reads, I've questions to develop these, I've interacted with players I'm not sure of, like Shinobi. Part of your push on me feels like you are frustrated me/more people aren't sheeping you on your Thor case.

While you are here, talk to me about your read on Plot? It seems quite flipfloppy, and I'd like to understand that.

Of course I'm frustrated people won't join me and lynch Thor, that however, has no effect on how I read people. I just can't see one post from you that makes me go 'OK, Bella is town'.

I'm not really interested in discussing Plot right now. I disliked some of her earlier play, I don't like that I'm not getting an obvtown read of her like I usually do but she isn't anywhere near the scummiest player in this game right now and I have no interest in pursuing it further on this Day.

[Fro99er]

I am not interested in Plot either. I'm fence sitting/flip-floppy on her for sure. But I'm beginning to feel a bit more comfortable. I can revisit her later if I need to.

[Bellaphant]

@BBT, I'm having trouble with the Thor wagon for similar reasons as Frog. I didn't like his comparison of the tool/his wagon, though.

@Frog, tex, how sure of the math/pers read are you?

[BlueBloodedToffee]

@BBT, I'm having trouble with the Thor wagon for similar reasons as Frog. I didn't like his comparison of the tool/his wagon, though.

@Frog, tex, how sure of the math/pers read are you?

What is your read on Thor?

What is the point of the second question?