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Post Post #575 (ISO) » Fri Jul 10, 2015 1:40 am

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Kaboose had resistance but I think that's because he has soft claimed a pr.
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Post Post #576 (ISO) » Fri Jul 10, 2015 1:43 am

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In post 515, Espeonage wrote:I have a theory. And I'm going to be mad if I'm right.


In post 517, Espeonage wrote:Ok. I need to change my view of a lot of things.

you ever going to expound on these?

In post 572, WoodyWoodpecker wrote:how is there a shit ton resistance to celt when celt is the largest wagon?

her being the biggest wagon=//=no or low resistance.

this is basically an ika/flubber wagon all over again
Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

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Post Post #577 (ISO) » Fri Jul 10, 2015 1:50 am

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It's also pretty early. If we had like 3 days left id think you have more ground to stand on but getting 6 so quickly doesn't sound like resistance to me.

The thing for me is while technically you make a compelling arguy, my gut says its still wrong and he's town. It also tells me you can't be trusted.
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Post Post #578 (ISO) » Fri Jul 10, 2015 1:53 am

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In post 576, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 515, Espeonage wrote:I have a theory. And I'm going to be mad if I'm right.


In post 517, Espeonage wrote:Ok. I need to change my view of a lot of things.

you ever going to expound on these?

In post 572, WoodyWoodpecker wrote:how is there a shit ton resistance to celt when celt is the largest wagon?

her being the biggest wagon=//=no or low resistance.

this is basically an ika/flubber wagon all over again


Short answer: no
Long Answer: It might come up to the first, and probably not to the second.
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Post Post #579 (ISO) » Fri Jul 10, 2015 3:44 am

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In post 551, Salamence20 wrote:
In post 546, Salamence20 wrote:Im not going to post in here anymore because this is dumb.

Im sheeping nero forever, so my vote is his vote.

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Post Post #580 (ISO) » Fri Jul 10, 2015 3:44 am

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In post 570, I Am Innocent wrote:Kaboose, knowledge gathering in thread is good, but problem is scum also see that knowledge. It's why we don't mass claim D1.

You really believe we are going to forget WW/salamences claim? And if there is such a strong correlation as you said, don't you think salamence would have said something after you flipped?

I understand town scumhunts differently D1, my problem is that a soft claim can sometimes give a player a free pass to coast. Esp when that soft claim wasn't needed.

@nero, kids are doing good...little guy just turned 2 this week :D


But all I did was confirm him D1 as town, scum already know this about him. So what exactly have I told scum they didn't know?
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Post Post #581 (ISO) » Fri Jul 10, 2015 3:45 am

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In post 579, Salamence20 wrote:
In post 551, Salamence20 wrote:
In post 546, Salamence20 wrote:Im not going to post in here anymore because this is dumb.

Im sheeping nero forever, so my vote is his vote.

(Lynch ika)

But Nero isn't voting ika...
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Post Post #582 (ISO) » Fri Jul 10, 2015 3:46 am

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In post 573, Nero Cain wrote:Do you think Kaboose, as scum, would rolefish that blatantly? + its not like he is the only player on this site (and not even in this game) that thinks we should get to d2 ASAP.


Getting to D2 asap imo is always best for town. Two flips to look at usually, plus town powers getting to work, leaving scum in the dark on who they should NK and whatnot. Also the longer D1 goes the more mute town becomes and scum aren't going to prevent that from happening by keeping the conversations going. The more you can create to talk about the better. D1 has very little to discuss unless there are certain roles in the game to help.
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Post Post #583 (ISO) » Fri Jul 10, 2015 3:49 am

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In post 574, Espeonage wrote:Kaboose had a bunch of resistance too.

I have half a mind to help flip celt, and if she flips town, it puts a bunch of pressure back on kaboose which is good stuffs.


I'll accept the pressure. Bring it.
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Post Post #584 (ISO) » Fri Jul 10, 2015 3:50 am

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In post 582, Kaboose wrote:
In post 573, Nero Cain wrote:Do you think Kaboose, as scum, would rolefish that blatantly? + its not like he is the only player on this site (and not even in this game) that thinks we should get to d2 ASAP.


Getting to D2 asap imo is always best for town. Two flips to look at usually, plus town powers getting to work, leaving scum in the dark on who they should NK and whatnot. Also the longer D1 goes the more mute town becomes and scum aren't going to prevent that from happening by keeping the conversations going. The more you can create to talk about the better. D1 has very little to discuss unless there are certain roles in the game to help.

But getting to day 2 asap stifles day 1 conversation and that's just as important. Why rush the process?
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Post Post #585 (ISO) » Fri Jul 10, 2015 3:54 am

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In post 478, Dessew wrote:
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hey there! Could you, please do me a favour, & post at least twice a day? Those posts don't have to be particularly insightful, just have them have content. Thank you.


I'll see what I can do about this. I am playing on a mobile device, and I don't check by super often. Even if I do, most of what I think I could just quote from others. Anyway, I think Boon and Celt are scum, and current town reads are Sala (keeping my eyes on you buddy for this whole book business), Nero, and Woody. So, yeah, 24 pages and I'm not posting like a mad man. Must be me not being a VI for once. :lol:

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Post Post #586 (ISO) » Fri Jul 10, 2015 3:58 am

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In post 550, ika wrote:top

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Post Post #587 (ISO) » Fri Jul 10, 2015 4:03 am

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In post 584, WoodyWoodpecker wrote:
In post 582, Kaboose wrote:
In post 573, Nero Cain wrote:Do you think Kaboose, as scum, would rolefish that blatantly? + its not like he is the only player on this site (and not even in this game) that thinks we should get to d2 ASAP.


Getting to D2 asap imo is always best for town. Two flips to look at usually, plus town powers getting to work, leaving scum in the dark on who they should NK and whatnot. Also the longer D1 goes the more mute town becomes and scum aren't going to prevent that from happening by keeping the conversations going. The more you can create to talk about the better. D1 has very little to discuss unless there are certain roles in the game to help.

But getting to day 2 asap stifles day 1 conversation and that's just as important. Why rush the process?


Because on D2 with flips you have actual things to talk about and converse with. Not made up things like in D1. I think if you can get lucky on bringing up a topic and asking everyone their opinion and which side of the fence they sit on D1 is a success, move on and build from that.

I don't think that D1 should simply be votes until a lynch. But it shouldn't drag on to the time limit.
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Post Post #588 (ISO) » Fri Jul 10, 2015 4:20 am

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So conman, I realize that you think I am scum but why are you not doing anything?
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Post Post #589 (ISO) » Fri Jul 10, 2015 4:31 am

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In post 587, Kaboose wrote:
In post 584, WoodyWoodpecker wrote:
In post 582, Kaboose wrote:
In post 573, Nero Cain wrote:Do you think Kaboose, as scum, would rolefish that blatantly? + its not like he is the only player on this site (and not even in this game) that thinks we should get to d2 ASAP.


Getting to D2 asap imo is always best for town. Two flips to look at usually, plus town powers getting to work, leaving scum in the dark on who they should NK and whatnot. Also the longer D1 goes the more mute town becomes and scum aren't going to prevent that from happening by keeping the conversations going. The more you can create to talk about the better. D1 has very little to discuss unless there are certain roles in the game to help.

But getting to day 2 asap stifles day 1 conversation and that's just as important. Why rush the process?


Because on D2 with flips you have actual things to talk about and converse with. Not made up things like in D1. I think if you can get lucky on bringing up a topic and asking everyone their opinion and which side of the fence they sit on D1 is a success, move on and build from that.

I don't think that D1 should simply be votes until a lynch. But it shouldn't drag on to the time limit.

I have seen scum lynched day 1 though. You seem to assume that we won't lynch scum day 1.
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Post Post #590 (ISO) » Fri Jul 10, 2015 4:33 am

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In post 574, Espeonage wrote:Kaboose had a bunch of resistance too.

I have half a mind to help flip celt, and if she flips town, it puts a bunch of pressure back on kaboose which is good stuffs.


What about nero
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Post Post #591 (ISO) » Fri Jul 10, 2015 4:34 am

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PLEASE show me where I said that.

I am BEGGING you to show me how you came to that conclusion.
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Post Post #592 (ISO) » Fri Jul 10, 2015 4:39 am

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In post 590, GrayFoxxxx wrote:What about nero

Who has defended me?
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Post Post #593 (ISO) » Fri Jul 10, 2015 4:40 am

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In post 592, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 590, GrayFoxxxx wrote:What about nero

Who has defended me?


Maybe I misunderstood. Was he saying if celt flips town it makes kaboose scummy?
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Post Post #594 (ISO) » Fri Jul 10, 2015 4:40 am

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In post 591, Kaboose wrote:PLEASE show me where I said that.

I am BEGGING you to show me how you came to that conclusion.

you don't say it no, but the fact that you seem to want to quickly get through day 1 and have flips implies it. At least to me it does.
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Post Post #595 (ISO) » Fri Jul 10, 2015 4:46 am

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That's a hardcore assumption.
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Post Post #596 (ISO) » Fri Jul 10, 2015 4:47 am

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In post 590, GrayFoxxxx wrote:
In post 574, Espeonage wrote:Kaboose had a bunch of resistance too.

I have half a mind to help flip celt, and if she flips town, it puts a bunch of pressure back on kaboose which is good stuffs.


What about nero


Nero's wagon didn't fall apart to make celt's wagon.
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Post Post #597 (ISO) » Fri Jul 10, 2015 4:50 am

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In post 595, Kaboose wrote:That's a hardcore assumption.

thats how I feel though. Day 1 conversation may not seem much especially day 1 but once we get close to mylo/lylo those interactions can prove useful.
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Post Post #598 (ISO) » Fri Jul 10, 2015 5:00 am

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In post 597, WoodyWoodpecker wrote:
In post 595, Kaboose wrote:That's a hardcore assumption.

thats how I feel though. Day 1 conversation may not seem much especially day 1 but once we get close to mylo/lylo those interactions can prove useful.


I just feel that's a rather strong claim to make towards me and how I look at things. Especially since I never said that, at all, or even got close to saying something like that.
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Post Post #599 (ISO) » Fri Jul 10, 2015 5:17 am

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you do realize I am entitled to my own opinions right? that is how I interpreted your actions.
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