Mini Normal 1692 – A Crack In Time? – Game Over

[Aneninen]

Having seached Slandaar's things they found nothing useful.

'Now what?' One of the travellers asked.

'There must be something. There must be clues. To find those who're responsible for all of this.' Another one of them added.

'That hasn't worked so far.' Responded a nervous voice.

'Becuase some of you are doing nothing but accusing each other. Including you!'

'And that's just another accusation...'

'And who the f--- has asked you there?!'

'Hey, hey, let's st-'

'And you're only telling us to do something but you're not better than any of us.'

'Actually he was the one who-'

'Why are you defending him anyway? Have you two got something in common?!'

'Oh, damm, I know just as much as you know. Or do you happen to know, say, where the disks are?!'

And everything went on in a way like that.

Vote Count 2.01

Klingoncelt

(3) – RadiantCowbells, NakedJogger, WoodyWoodpecker,

Not Voting

(8) – zakk, Zoronos, Klingoncelt, OhGodMyLife, Radja, BlueMoonRising, Ricastle, PointYBagelS,

With

11

players in play, it will take

6

to Lynch.

The Deadline is (expired on 2015-07-30 09:23:00)

[zakk]

I am definitely okay with lynching OGML as well.



RadiantCowbells... I can't even.

If you're town, you're doing it wrong.
If you're scum, you're doing it right.

[PointYBagelS]

The only way you can scum read me is if you also believe that Pointy is lying. Is Pointy lying?

Also, 841 is a post from you, not from OGML. Care to correct the link?

Pointy is definitely not lying...

You heard it here first folks. I'm scum approved.

Anyway I wouldn't mind shooting klingon tonight if we wanted to lynch omgl, but perhaps we should do it the other way around in case of roleblockers. Lynch the certain scum shoot the maybe scum.

Still leaves the problem of there being an even number of players though. Don't want to shoot if it will just force a no lynch down the line. Not a big deal if I hit scum, but is kind of bad if I hit town.

[Zoronos]

Just finished re-reading Klingon's D1 - (Conclusions subject to change if by some insane happenstance Klingon doesn't flip scum after claiming a role that can't be in the game and is setup-speculated out by two other roles):

Ricastle is probably not scum. He was super early on the D1 Klingon train. Their D1 interactions don't look like scum <-> scum interactions.
Woody is probably clear based on Klingon's casing as well. So is Pointy.

I also agree with Ric's OGML read. When Klingon was at her highest level of pressure, he was trying to turn the lynch onto me. Likely scumbuddies. She also largely ignores him; she never talks to him directly after page 2, only mentions are in the quotes from other players. Looks like RVS distancing to me.

[zakk]

well THAT was certainly a towny-looknig post ^

[WoodyWoodpecker]

For.the record I said.omg was scum before ric did. Just want.that acknowledge if he.flips scum

[Zoronos]

For.the record I said.omg was scum before ric did. Just want.that acknowledge if he.flips scum

*eyeroll*
Yes, if OGML ends up flipping scum you may have +5 ego points.

Other folks should re-read Klingon's D1 before she was caught and check my work.

[zakk]

VOTE: Klingon

I fucked this up more than any of you even know, and for that I'm sorry.

Like, I literally replaced in, said fuck you to all of your reads and to you as players, then turned the lynch onto someone that I knew I couldn't read well and who ended up flipping a nonsensically strong power role, and I did so because they vouched for my reads no less.

My replace in, both in terms of my performance and my attitude towards you all as players, was horrible and I'm sorry for that.

VOTE: Klingoncelt

I'll try my best to redeem myself from this point in.

Idiot claim accepted! Also, why Slandaar?

By the way, I'm going to take anyone not voting Klingon in their first post as a scumclaim. There is literally no reason not to vote her at this point.

It's not even about being an idiot.

Everyone's wrong about reads sometimes.

I was an arrogant ass and I went way too far to push my own reads at the expense of others, including a fakeclaim, when I knew or should have known my Boonskiies case wasn't even that good considering he was just a townread.

And the truth is my cases and such like that are all terrible. When I'm scumhunting, I just read and go with gut instinct and that's what gets me the wins. I didn't do any of that, I played a game I sucked at and I knew I sucked at versus a player who I already knew I couldn't play that game with and I did it in a way that compromised the game for everyone around me.

Boonskiies vouched for my scumhunting and I deathtunneled him for it, and I'm really sorry Boon since now you at least probably know just how far I went to fuck this up.

Hey all. I've found the entire scumteam, and town can win this by day 3 if you listen to me.

I am a vigilante

I shot Ricastle last night for claiming vigilante, since the odds of there being 2 vigilantes in this game are essentially zero. Either I was Roleblocked or he was healed. If he was indeed healed, then the doctor can more or less confirm my claim. If I was roleblocked, I suppose I have no confirmation but it does confirm one of us as scum. Since I'm assuming Klingon will get lynched immediately, I request that the doctor heal neither of us, and we'll take care of each other.

Relevant quote.

Bagels, vote Boon.

The vig claim makes the hider claim and the odd-night doc claim make a million times more sense than Boonskiies claim which includes a vig.

And the Klingon wagon is sorta dead atm.

And yeah, 1 non-normal permitted, not two.

The scum have daytalk, so that of course means the claims were coordinated. The "vig hider is a realistic claim", while admittedly a reasonable line of thought (and indeed why I voted boons instead of klingon), was most adamantly supported by RadiantCowbells. If you ask me, he was trying to lend legitimacy to both of his scumbuddies in one post.

I realize a lot of you were scumreading me yesterday but this logic is pretty sound.

Scumteam is Ricastle/Klingon/RadiantCowbells

.

here's how i read all of this ^

ric: *votes scumbuddy #1*
RC: "hi, i'm sorry i'm sorry i'm so sorry"
ric: "apology accepted, scumbuddy #2, btw everyone should vote my OTHER scumbuddy, scumbuddy #1, unless they want me to say they're scum"
RC: "hi i'm sorry even more"
pointybagels: "hi everybody, scumbuddy #1 and scumbuddy #2 are scumbuddies with scumbuddy #ricastle"

what i'm saying is,
i'm down with sheeping pointybagels

rc/ric's exchange looked a) way too manufactured, b) way too preemptive, and c) way too calculated

i'll vote any of the three.

and if all three are scum, it's about time pointybagels was given a little more credit on the site for being a good scumhunter.

[OhGodMyLife]

I feel like I got set up. I should be vig killed tonight though. I feel like a bad for misreading the klingon wagon situation.

In my own defense I still haven't read a big chunk of game where people were yelling and elusive was having a meltdown, and I was going almost entirely on my gut feeling of how the wagons were progressing. Zor refusing to consider either made me really think they were both town. I could still see Zor as a mafia doctor, tbh, especially if Ricastle is scum Speaking of, please kill Ricastle after me. Please.

More later perhaps, I have only got my phone right now. I want to go through klingon's iso before night since I should be dead before tomorrow, unless scum have a roleblocker and feel like leaving me around to be instalynched. Maybe we'll get lucky and kling is mafia power, it would make sense with her fakeclaim if she targets town at night.

[OhGodMyLife]

I really doubt RC is scum. I also don't think woody would be jockeying for bragging rights if he were scum because he'd know I'm a mislynch.

[Ricastle]

ric: *votes scumbuddy #1*
RC: "hi, i'm sorry i'm sorry i'm so sorry"
ric: "apology accepted, scumbuddy #2, btw everyone should vote my OTHER scumbuddy, scumbuddy #1, unless they want me to say they're scum"
RC: "hi i'm sorry even more"
pointybagels: "hi everybody, scumbuddy #1 and scumbuddy #2 are scumbuddies with scumbuddy #ricastle"

10/10 analysis. You literally just recited the exchange and replaced all player names with "scumbuddy". Well fucking done bro well fucking done. Are you interested in reading past the first 5 posts of the day?

OGML, why shouldn't Klingon have claimed at L-1?

[Ricastle]

For.the record I said.omg was scum before ric did. Just want.that acknowledge if he.flips scum

Yeah, well done for sheeping Boon!

[RadiantCowbells]

So here's the two scenarios.

1. I'm town who, in the wake of total incredulity at the Doc claiming for no reason, jokeclaimed Vig.

2. I'm scum who fakeclaimed Vig because...? Fill in the blank. What is the scum motivation here? I am pretty much confirmed scum D2 this way.

Scum JOAT possibly.

[WoodyWoodpecker]

For.the record I said.omg was scum before ric did. Just want.that acknowledge if he.flips scum

Yeah, well done for sheeping Boon!

Except for.the fact boon was calling RC/kling/bagels scum, yeah I totally sheeped him...

[WoodyWoodpecker]

I came to the omg all on my own by re-reading the interactions back when I was pushing kling and than later when kling was under pressure again. I sheeped nobody

[Ricastle]

I came to the omg all on my own by re-reading the interactions back when I was pushing kling and than later when kling was under pressure again. I sheeped nobody

Utter bullshit. None of your previous posts indicate a thought process remotely like this; in fact, your stated scumreads for the entirety of Day 1 completely contradict this claim. The only time you've talked about OGML before now was in 97 which was literally sheeping Boon. Good try though, you almost got me if I hadn't bothered to check your ISO.

[zakk]

ric: *votes scumbuddy #1*
RC: "hi, i'm sorry i'm sorry i'm so sorry"
ric: "apology accepted, scumbuddy #2, btw everyone should vote my OTHER scumbuddy, scumbuddy #1, unless they want me to say they're scum"
RC: "hi i'm sorry even more"
pointybagels: "hi everybody, scumbuddy #1 and scumbuddy #2 are scumbuddies with scumbuddy #ricastle"

10/10 analysis. You literally just recited the exchange and replaced all player names with "scumbuddy". Well fucking done bro well fucking done. Are you interested in reading past the first 5 posts of the day?

OGML, why shouldn't Klingon have claimed at L-1?

Lolololol

[WoodyWoodpecker]

Utter bullshit? Yeah here's where I said I was going g to go back and look at the push and then my posts when I was done. So take your utter bullshit and shove it up your.. Well you know

let me see who was trying to stop my earlier push on kling. brb

ok so gonna take my head out of my ass and move naked down to probably town given that ricastle is basically confirmed scum I don't see both scum pushing on kling

so we know scum is 100% kling and ricastle (unless bagel is lying which is a bold move for scum)

so actually the 3rd scum is probably OMG or zoro, though RC can still be scum also.

damn I forgot zoronos claimed doctor so scratch that from my list. so omg/rc for last scum

it does kind of look legit to me but if it wasn't it's hard to detect joking on the internet

[Ricastle]

That wasn't before me...

I was scumreading OGML throughout Day 1. Read my ISO.

[WoodyWoodpecker]

That wasn't before me...

I was scumreading OGML throughout Day 1. Read my ISO.

Post 1443 is when you posted about Omg being scum.

I'm not bad at math so I know 1443 came after my posts.

I don't remember what anyone said day 1 cause I ignore my scum reads posts

[WoodyWoodpecker]

Oh, Woody unvoted just before Boon voted. Right.

Anyone up for a OGML wagon?

This is the only thing you say besides WAY BACK early day 1.

This is when kling was under pressure and you don't even give reasons why you wanted an omg wagon. Looks like you were protecting kling so if kling flips a PR, that means omg is probably the goon and well we already know you are scum.

[PointYBagelS]

So here's the two scenarios.

1. I'm town who, in the wake of total incredulity at the Doc claiming for no reason, jokeclaimed Vig.

2. I'm scum who fakeclaimed Vig because...? Fill in the blank. What is the scum motivation here? I am pretty much confirmed scum D2 this way.

Scum JOAT possibly.

I doubt any scum is going to have a vig action in a game with an actual vig.

[zakk]

I don't remember what anyone said day 1 cause I ignore my scum reads posts

If you ignore your scum reads posts how do you even catch scum

you just go with the common consensus of what everyone else thinks? orrr

[zakk]

I doubt any scum is going to have a vig action in a game with an actual vig.

It's called a night kill

[Zoronos]

I kind of want to leave Ric and RC alive just so the scum get mad that we're not lynching people who fake claimed shit.
But RC did straight up thread murder the cop. Oh well a puzzle for another day.