Saki Achiga-hen episode of side-A Mafia [OK]

[Varsoon]

It's a bad strategy, too, especially in a fucking closed large setup.

It's insulting to me that you think checking out and just blindly lynching PoE is a good fucking idea and 10/10 mafia play.

[Varsoon]

Because what you're advocating is complete disengagement based on incomplete info.

Throw harder.

[Sakura Hana]

Once again, this is my last attempt at reaching out, if you discredit it again with PoE is bollocks i'm ignoring every single post you make in this game from now on.
I provided a list of townreads and scumreads, if you think scum sneaked into my townreads then feel free to place your complaints on who you think there might be scum and why, all I see you is leaving mislynch options open, if scum managed to sneak into my townreads then that means they're playing a good game that managed to snow me, but you aren't disagreeing with my townreads, you're just saying "THERE MIGHT BE SCUM IN YOUR TOWNREADS", which is the same as disagreeing with my townreads but not stating what, but you focus on the fact that it's a PoE strategy and discredit that, that's called a strawman.

This is your last chance, what's the issue with my reads and why?

[Varsoon]

Please actually read my goddamn post.
I'm not trying to 'discredit' you or any bullshit. I'm saying that your strategy is flawed and I hate it.

I put out my own goddamn reads, it should be evident where we don't match up.
Apparently you don't account for bussing -at all- in your reads, first of all.
Voided is scummy as shit, and I've made cases for this before, but given how voided has joined various wagons there's a lot of issue that I have there. Voided's recent play has been a bit better, imo, but I still don't like these soft pushes at players who I know to be town.
Xtoxm is a hard-scumread of mine, and it's largely due to lurky/phoned in posts, early reads that look bad to me, and general sheepiness. Xtoxm and Voided also feel opposed, so I don't think I could see both as scum together, tbh.
Your scum-read on me is wrong because I'm confirmed town, so that's one mislynch that scum is glad you're pushing for!
I'm also lightly scum-reading Singer and Vampirate, because both have had really problematic play for me throughout the game, although I'm more critical of Vamp at this point, because I do legit get some town-pings from Singer.

[Varsoon]

I'm not 'trying to keep mislynch options open'. That's bias-as-fuck coming from you. I'm trying not to narrow my game scope. Good scum will always kick your ass for doing that.

[Sakura Hana]

Your scum-read on me is wrong because I'm confirmed town

You never answered how you're confirmed town btw!

[Varsoon]

Well, that's easy;

Do you know why I'm still alive right now?
Because scum know they can get away with leaving me around for a mislynch.
There's simply better targets and they know people like you will corral for a turbo-lynch on me because you're too goddamn steeped in your bias to think about my slot and actually consider it.

[Sakura Hana]

Do you know why I'm still alive right now?

Or because your scum.

This is the most out of the textbook scum excuse ever for being alive.
Try again.

[Varsoon]

I think it should be really obvious that I'm town.
Especially since the kill was on Cabd even when I knew that Sonic was a cop.

[Sakura Hana]

Xtoxm is a hard-scumread of mine, and it's largely due to lurky/phoned in posts, early reads that look bad to me,

I agree with the lurky aspect of xtomx which is why is not a very strong townread of mine, but how does his early reads look bad to you and why?
Why is notty so low in your townreads list?
Why is ZZZX so high?

[Sakura Hana]

I knew that Sonic was a cop.

Yeah no.

[Varsoon]

Entire scumteam in Xtoxm's early reads are in the grey zone.
Gut.
Gut.

Hold on, it wasn't obvious that I knew sonic was a cop?
Let me pull up our interaction.

[Ms Marangal]

kill sakura

Fyi, Varsoon is actually pretty town with the way he's played his pr, I think and I would like to know if he actually got anything (I doubt he's responsible for the kill)

[Wisdom]

Except he has no PR

[Profgessor Emotion]

kill sakura

Fyi, Varsoon is actually pretty town with the way he's played his pr, I think and I would like to know if he actually got anything (I doubt he's responsible for the kill)

[Voidedmafia]

I don't think it's ridiculous to stand by the fact that I actually want to play the fucking game instead of throwing.

I have less of a problem with you being against PoE and more with the fact that you spent all this time ranting about Sakura trying to do PoE and ignoring the multiple times she directly asked you explain why her reads were faulty or otherwise discuss them. It doesn't read as being completely genuine. (Sure, I buy that you have annoyance with it given what seems to be personal experience--and I'm not going to read all of Xenosaga to confirm it--your reaction is too overblown to be 100% legit.)

Also, when I said you were slipping I meant you were slipping down from town to scum.

P-EDIT: wat.

[Varsoon]

Seriously, NOTHING in this exchange seems 'off' or weird to you?
What if I told you that in a previous game, Sonic used 'Xiao Xiao buns' to soft he was a cop to me before?

Spoiler: From Baccano! Mafia...

Big makes explicit reference to Xiao Long and On Another Level in two of his posts so far.
In a game that I ran,

Varsoon Mafia

, On Another Level was a lie-detector role that was able to function sort of like a cop, but had a post restriction. This role was played by Xiao Long, who actually had role-related info condemning half of the scum team. Town never listened to him and the game ended in a scum-win. Being 'On Another Level' also refers to my own (essentially absurd) 'levels' theory, where I postulate that players play on different 'levels' of WIFOM engagement.

Varsoon. Don't vote Mainez, she's not scum. I can sort her pretty well anyway. Trust me on this.

NQT highly scum. Kalimar too. Gut scumreading Kalimar, but objectively NQT is more likely to be scum. I'm On Another Level.

-Sonic

@all, really
What do you think about Kalimar lying?

I wouldn't be very surprised a-yup~

Like how Sonic would appear at my house whenever I'm cooking Xiao Long Buns and Chili Dogs a-yup~ They'd disappear yup~

Nothing new!!~

~Big

<3

Big's town, by the way.

I'm never lynching Big.

Spoiler: From this game...

Xiao Xiao Buns.

Basically, I feel like Sonic reached out to me in a way that should reflect something I expected to happen overnight and it didn't, so I feel like Sonic's trying to unfairly get me on his side now.
:/

Xiao Xiao Buns.

Basically, I feel like Sonic reached out to me in a way that should reflect something I expected to happen overnight and it didn't, so I feel like Sonic's trying to unfairly get me on his side now.
:/

Bitmap is town btw

I got nothin'. Guess I'll try elsewhere.

Set Up The Pins: Gin and Sonic

This seems good though?
VOTE: InflatePie

Just for surety

Choice Hand: Varsoon

BELIEVE IN SONIC

STAY DANDY

I've got believe

Xiao Xiao Buns don't bite you!

You're supposed to bite Xiao Xiao Buns!

I have got to say,
playing with metal sonic is never dull.

Varsoon Xiao Xiao Buns, tell me if the profgessor is town

[Varsoon]

Also, Wisdom likely scum for not killing me because he thinks I'm vanilla?
More news at 6.

[Varsoon]

@Voided: Man, I can get that. My reaction is 100% true, though. The truth is that I have way more of a problem with the PoE play than the reads anyway.

[Wisdom]

If I was scum i would most certainly not think you're vanilla

[Varsoon]

I also broke my promise from earlier and totally shit the bed here, so, eh, sorry about that?
I guess Nacho's comments to 'play more natural' sunk in. The problem is that when I play more naturally, I shit the bed.

[Profgessor Emotion]

But sure guys, I outed myself as bulletproof scum while the lynch is about to happen on a third party because that's how bad at scum i am

Tell yourselves that until you believe it

I still really, really love this, and I can lynch wisdom in this alone and I am glad ky game is over

[Wisdom]

Yeah Mara I mimicked my town self in your game, that must mean I'm scum every time I'm town

[Sakura Hana]

kill sakura

Fyi, Varsoon is actually pretty town with the way he's played his pr, I think and I would like to know if he actually got anything (I doubt he's responsible for the kill)

lol killing a confirmed town.
If this is correct please lynch from my list without fail, thanks.

[Varsoon]

Nah man you're only scum every time you're scum but then you try to be town when you're scum but you're not because you're scum when you're scum.