Newbie 1625: American Spring - Day 5 (DL - 08/31)

[BlueBloodedToffee]

There are only two possible set-ups with a Jailkeeper - Set up 1 (JK, VTs, Goons) or set up A (JK, Mafia Roleblocker, 1-Shot Bulletproof)

[Thespio]

@Joram, This Newbie game is set up like this..
It is either one row or one column, no diagonals.

Newbie Setup

Matrix6 (as designed by Cogito Ergo Sum):

	A	B	C
1	Town Jailkeeper	Vanilla Townie	Mafia Goon
2	Mafia Roleblocker	Town Cop	Town Doctor
3	Town 1-shot Bulletproof	Mafia Goon	Town Tracker

Each Newbie Game will be given a setup that incorporates either one row or one column. The remaining six roles will be filled in by mafia goons and vanilla townies appropriately, to create a 2-mafia and 7-town setup. For example Row 1 (1 jailkeeper, 1 vanilla townie, 1 mafia goon) would add an additional 5 vanilla townies and 1 mafia goon, for a total setup of 1 jailkeeper, 6 vanilla townies, and 2 mafia goons.

*Roleblocker will take precedence over jailkeeper when resolving night actions should that apply.

Spoiler: Sample Role PMs

Vanilla Townie

Welcome!


You are a

Vanilla Townie

.


You have no special abilities.

You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.

The game thread is here.

Town Jailkeeper

Welcome!


You are a

Town Jailkeeper

.


You may target one player per night phase. This player will be protected from kills and be prevented from using their own action, if they have one, during that night phase. You cannot target yourself.

You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.

The game thread is here.

Town Cop

Welcome!


You are a

Town Cop

.


You may target one player per night phase. At the end of the night phase, you will be informed if they are

Town

or

Mafia

. If you are roleblocked, you will receive no result.

You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.

The game thread is here.

Town Doctor

Welcome!


You are a

Town Doctor

.


You may target one player per night phase. This player will be protected from kills during that night phase. You cannot target yourself.

You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.

The game thread is here.

1-shot Bulletproof Townie

Welcome!


You are a

1-shot Bulletproof Townie.

You will survive 1 kill attempt during the game. This does not include lynches.

You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.

The game thread is here.

Town Tracker

Welcome!


You are a

Town Tracker

.


You may target one player per night phase. At the end of the night phase, you will be informed what player they targeted with their action, if any.

You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.

The game thread is here.

Mafia Goon

Welcome!


You are a

Mafia Goon

.


Your partner is PLAYER, who is a

Mafia Goon/Roleblocker

.


You share a factional kill each night. You must choose which of you will commit the kill. You also share a factional private thread, located here, which you may talk in during pregame and night phases.

You win when the Town has been eliminated, or nothing can stop this from occurring.

The game thread is here.

Mafia Roleblocker

Welcome!


You are a

Mafia Roleblocker

.


Your partner is PLAYER, who is a

Mafia Goon

.


You may target one player per night. This player will be prevented from performing their own action, if any.


You share a factional kill each night. You must choose which of you will commit the kill. You may commit the kill and perform a roleblock in the same night phase. You also share a factional private thread, located here, which you may talk in during pregame and night phases.

You win when the Town has been eliminated, or nothing can stop this from occurring.

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The game thread is here.

[JoramvanVugt]

Okay so if there is a Mafia roleblocker there is also a 1 shot bulletproof townie, if not there is just 1 mafia goon left right?

[JoramvanVugt]

At the moment i have no idea who to vote for.
I dont think NS is scum. i thought NS was scum with bulba being the townie. but it was the other way around.
Thespio is still up on my list but not as much as he used to be, it was more like NS and Thespio are scum not 1 of the 2

[Akuseru]

At the moment i have no idea who to vote for.

What are your thoughts on me, BBT, and HCL?

[JoramvanVugt]

I still find it kinda susp that BBT refused to go over the posts of the person he replaced.
You Aku seem town to me. you are active, share reads, follow your reads and not like some others switch your vote like 10 times a day.
HCL would be the most sups of the 3. ill go over and quote some posts later today

[JoramvanVugt]

Im not really good at getting reads. in the games on the other site most of my reads are meta reads. just behavior reads is something i have to really learn to do and thats why im playing newbie games

[Akuseru]

Who do you find more suspicious: Thespio or HCL?

[JoramvanVugt]

Thespio, he is the one that keeps pushing for my lynch, he voted for me when he saw my last time online but when i explained it he told me he was not going to use that as evidence anyways even though it was the only reason he posted when he voted for me.

[Akuseru]

Thespio took his vote off you.


Who do you find more suspicious: Thespio or HCL?

[JoramvanVugt]

I know that he took his vote of me, but look at the reason why he voted for me (you were online when thread was locked), and he unvoted me after i pointed out why. He unvoted me cause he said that wasnt a good reason for a vote/he wasnt gonna use it against me but still used that reason to vote me.

I could have been hammered because of his vote for something he said he was not gonna use against me

[Akuseru]

...okay. Cool.


Joram, would you be willing to volunteer for today's lynch? I'm currently the only person voting you. Would you join me?

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Aku, why Joram over Henry?

[JoramvanVugt]

No im not willing to volunteer. if we lynch me another townie probably dies tonight, i dont think its smart to do

[Akuseru]

Aku, why Joram over Henry?

I only have 2 scum reads: Joram and HCL. I don't see scum being in you, NS, or thespio (if so, gg T_T).

Therefore it doesn't matter to me who we lynch first (assuming we no lynch on mylo if we choose wrong today). Thing is, HCL has played a better game than Joram. I'd feel bad if he flipped town.

Your thoughts, bbt?

No im not willing to volunteer. if we lynch me another townie probably dies tonight, i dont think its smart to do

What are you doing for town now? If you get to the final 3 along with thespio, would you vote anyone else besides thespio? Do you think town would vote thespio over you? How would you convince them you're town?

[JoramvanVugt]

So aku you say lynching me over someone else is smart, killing 2 townies is good?

[Akuseru]

So aku you say lynching me over someone else is smart, killing 2 townies is good?

Maybe. I asked you those questions so we can discuss it, you know, if it's a good idea or not.

If you truly believe that thespio is scum, how do you expect town to win if the final 3 ends up being you, thespio, and HCL? Do you think HCL will vote to lynch thespio over you? If you end up changing your mind down the road and decide HCL is scum, do you think thespio would lynch HCL over you. After what you just told me on this page and according to your reads, it looks (from your, joram's, point of view) like keeping you alive would be detrimental to town.

I don't want you to volunteer to lynch yourself, but I feel like if you truly believe in what you posted, YOU would want to lynch yourself.

[JoramvanVugt]

I dont see your logic, No i am detrimental to town at all, but im not willing to lynch myself. you all think im scum, or at least most players here and im still alive. you wanted to lynch me day 1 and you didnt.
I die, i flip town, next night another townie dies, its a 3 -1 lets say HCL or Thespio dies and turns out town. who would you lynch?

[Akuseru]

lets say HCL or Thespio dies and turns out town. who would you lynch?

In that situation, if HCL dies, scum is thespio and town wins!. If thespio dies, scum is HCL and town wins!(see how easy that was without you in the mix?). Since you're town it'll be your win too, and it probably wouldn't have been possible without your sacrifice :D

Do you still see it as illogical or is it because you just don't want to be lynched?

[JoramvanVugt]

i dont wanna get lynched and im not going to sacrifice myself.

i am going to vote for thespio cause he is still on top of my scum list

VOTE: Thespio

[Akuseru]

Are you suggesting that we should all vote thespio because at one point today he had a vote on you?

[JoramvanVugt]

Aku you've been paying attention... i explained why. this is not cause he voted me today. ive been saying i saw him as scum since end of day 1....

[Akuseru]

Are you suggesting that we should all vote thespio because you've been saying he's scum since the end of day 1?

[JoramvanVugt]

Im not suggesting anything. im just putting out my vote on the person i think is scum

[Akuseru]

im just putting out my vote

In hopes of...what?


What do you plan on achieving by just putting your vote out?