Open 606: Near-Vanilla 40k TOWN WINS

[duppin]

Um, I am not entirely sure you understand.

Do you think the people bandwagoning on The Enigma are scummy for pushing us out of RVS?

[Vedith]

Oh okay, my apologies.
Well it seemed a little too easy if you ask me.
Can it be seen as a scummy action? Of course, it seemed more like an actual vote rather than RVS.
Do I think that a player can be scummy for this? Well that's hard to say, I don't know how this player starts game and I haven't reviewed it as of yet. I wouldn't say so much as thinking the player is scummy, but the the vote itself can be seen as scummy.

I'm not good with RVS so I normally stick to the same reason if possible, hence the 3rd vote being scum theory.

[4nxi3ty]

vedith is top town atm for how he engages others.

agree duppin's first post was awkward but I think it comes from town trying to force a situation.

looks like an honest attempt to get a reaction in RVS.

I don't like duppin's posts commencing Ika's vote on him. It feels awkward and rather emotionless. I get the feeling he's trying too hard to not react to it which makes it strange.

VOTE: duppin

I'll sheep.

this has scum taking advantage of a situation written all over it.
And if we're talking about emotions your posts fall on the flat side for me.

vote: Enigma

[duppin]

Yes The Enigma's vote was suspicious. First of all the emotionless read makes no sense. Considering he was the leading train, it makes his vote (+weak reason) fairly interesting.

I am not sold on Vedith being town just yet though. His reaction in 30 is super weird.
His logic seems flawed to me as well. If he does not like RVS, why would he find people who try to push us out of it suspicious?

I do however want to note that I do not personally think pushing us out of RVS is a town tell. I believe it is null.

[4nxi3ty]

weird how?
the "eventhough I'm not mafia" statement?

Do you have something confess buddy?

this was good

imitating your words to get a reaction outta you, I believe

[Vedith]

I only said that I'm no good with RVS, I'm not sure where you got this from? Plus I never said I find him suspicious. .. well any more than the rest if you. Can you explain this as I think you are trying to twist my words here
I also can't see how Random was trying to push out of RVS? It doesn't come across as it anyway given the "that being said" part.

[duppin]

I see. Interesting. I would not be surprised if Vedith killed you first.

I'm not a fan of you calling me Mafia after 1 post.
You shouldn't try and act like you know who I would go for if I were Mafia too (Even though I'm not).
Why so defensive over my vote on RandomMidget? Do you have something confess buddy?

Do you not think this is a very interesting reaction to RVS?

I was obviously fluffing when I told ika that Vedith would kill him.
I was not defensive over his vote on RandomMidget.

I only said that I'm no good with RVS, I'm not sure where you got this from? Plus I never said I find him suspicious. .. well any more than the rest if you. Can you explain this as I think you are trying to twist my words here
I also can't see how Random was trying to push out of RVS? It doesn't come across as it anyway given the "that being said" part.

1. I assumed by you saying you are not good with RVS, you implied you are not a fan of RVS.

2. When people bandwagon a person, they force us out of RVS.

Please note that I was merely explaning Yimmy's question to you. (He wanted to know whether you found people who pushed town out of RVS were scummy or not).

Then when I questioned you, I got the impression you do not want us to be in RVS (seeing as you claimed you are not good with it). So you calling the people getting us out of it was a bit strange to me (your theory about the 3rd vote being scum implies you believe it).

[Vedith]

I also said that mine was RVS. Assuming things in these games can turn out to be pretty bad and wrong.

I disagree with the bandwagon, people can still RVS onto the same person, until an actual reason is raised it's no different.

Yup, you did explain it, and I appreciate that, however, I think before that I already said that my vote was RVS.
I'm not for or against it... As I said, I'm not been good with RVS, other completed games will prove that, even more so with people I haven't been in games with before. So if I have an opportunity I'll take it but overall I see it as throw away votes at the time. This is just my opinion over it though, I know for a fact that others see it differently.

[Vedith]

I was obviously fluffing when I told ika that Vedith would kill him.
I was not defensive over his vote on RandomMidget.

And to add, you can't say you were obviously fluffing with that if I don't know your play style.
For all I know, each game you decide page 1 who is Mafia and stick to it. I doubt that, but the point is there.

[ForWhomTheJellyRolls]

Enigma, are you scum? Or is the answer to that... a mystery?
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[TheWorst]

"Hope for the best, but

prepare for the worst

."- Imperial Guard Tactical Manual

I see how it is, I knew I couldn't escape the game without a username pun, even taken straight from my signature. I'm insulted.

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I'm excited to see the way this game is going already on the first day, I like the discussion and flow it has so far.

Interesting to see that not one, but two people sheeped my RVS vote. I know Vimmy and Randomidget sheeped me since they answered the RQS (hey, it has its uses sometimes maybe, see?) and saw my post. At least, I'd think so.
Of course this is all Day 1 RVS stuff, but it could be useful for later on.

I like Duppin's first page personally, I do the same sometimes. Disagree with Enigma that Duppin was trying not to react to the Ika vote; I see him engaging with Ika to shoot the shit.

My vote is staying on for now, I wanna hear more from The mysterious Enigma. I'm the one who started this wagon based on pure scumhunting goodness god dammit, and I will lead the sheep to victory!

RQS by the way is Random Questioning Stage. it's an alternative to RVS, you can find out more about it here.
I like both of them, but to each their own.

[Firebringer]

I don't think enigma is that much of a better wagon.

Though I do think enigma overreacted to duppin. Possibly was being opportunistic but I kinda doubt it.

[Yimmy]

@duppin How does being the leading wagon affect how suspicious vote was?
@Vedith 55 Bandwagoning is a great way out of RVS from my experience
@Vedith 57 cause it didn't work this time at all nope not one bit
@TheWorst 60 I sheeped you because bandwagoning gets you out of RVS great from my experience
@Firebringer 61 Much of a better wagon than what?

[Firebringer]

Than duppin.

[4nxi3ty]

eehmmmm

duppin (the person standing up for his vedith suspicion independent of everyone else, even when I challenge him on it, not backing down, and pointing to specific problems he has with vedith)

VS.

Enigma (who joined in the duppin hate - maybe because he wants to buddyup with ika, hence the added "I'll sheep", eventhough ika was talking to firebringer, eventhough he already gave a reason to vote so sheeping wasn't necessary, and a reason that didn't do a whole lot for me other than appearing reasonable, not to mention the "emotionless" part was bit of a stretch in describing duppin)

You really think duppin is the better wagon?

[Firebringer]

Your third person narration is very charming.

I'll look at him more closely, though just think he wanted to push it out of RVS

[duppin]

@Yimmy

It does not necessarily mean anything.
But it could've been an attempt to deflect attention away from himself.
He really tried to justify his vote on me (and his reason was meh), which seems a bit desperate to me.

[ika]

yimmy you got stuff better to do then just ask questions all the time. it looks like bbusywork.

[Firebringer]

I am busy work!!!

[Firebringer]

I've read the case on Enigma, I think you guys make a good point this is the wagon to be on for now.

Ball in your court enigma.

VOTE: Enigma

[Reubus Swagrid]

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(expired on 2015-08-23 19:30:00)

The Enigma- 5 (TheWorst, Yimmy, ForWhomTheJellyRolls, 4nxi3ty, Firebringer)
duppin- 2 (ika, The Enigma)
Vedith- 2 (duppin, randomidget)
ika- 1 (A Simple Plan)
randomidget- 1 (Vedith)
Firebringer- 1 (juckter)
TheCow- 0
A Simple Plan- 0
4nxi3ty- 0
Yimmy- 0
juckter- 0
TheWorst- 0
ForWhomTheJellyRolls- 0
VT- 0

Not Voting- TheCow, *VT

With 14 alive it takes 8 to lynch.

"Destroy, for the sake of Destruction; Kill, for the sake of Killing"

- Anonymous Chaos Worshipper

[The Enigma]

@mod:

Please replace me. Sorry./

[Yimmy]

Better things? Like what?

[Randomnamechange]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: enigma
L-2 I have my reasons.

[juckter]

Prodge, reading later.