Micro 508: MafiaMafiaNotMafia (Bins' Soup Sucks)

[Lucky2u]

VOTE: not mafia

I think I've let NM go for too long under the assumption he was being lazy but I'm willing to admit he is just scum trying to get through day 1 without trying.

[Lucky2u]

@Lucky: we changed our mind on you since then. The difference between your ISO and not mafia's ISO is that you have a little bit of a reads progression and sometimes you take into account new information and change your mind as a result. Not mafia doesn't. He's the scum in your group.

--Plotinus

yea I noticed that, but I post as I catch up so I didn't know that at the time...

[Rainbow Unicat]

ah ok, that's fine then.

--Plotinus

[Lucky2u]

New reads list:

Chamber is scum, Not_mafia is scum, so those groups are settled.

I am less confident in group 1 about my reads and will need to ISO each player to draw a more informed conclusion. Will come back to this later.

[TheIrishPope]

I wasn't avoiding the thread, I was waiting for someone to say something. Chamber had already placed a naked vote before, so it doesn't bother me.
AtE all you want.

[Parama]

>trying to dismiss me using a worthless buzzword

yeah okay this is dead

[Parama]

i agree that NM should probably be the lynch in the third group, as well. dunno about the first group since i townread all three rn but I can imagine Pie being witty enough to fool my scumdar, and Plot seems competent enough to do the same, Bins is totes town tho like 100% if i'm wrong about this i'll be alive in 3-way lylo with bins and hammer the other guy left who would prob be edo

[Not_Mafia]

Was it solely that one post that made you switch to Irish?

[Parama]

i can rest easy knowing that i'm 100% dead 2nite if i lynch right in our group tho, there's like no arguing that

p-edit: no.

[Parama]

i have hated practically every one of irish's posts since 253, 342 is just the tipping point

[Not_Mafia]

Did chamber get any townier to you?

[Parama]

i am gonna be completely honest, i find it entirely possible that irish may be badtown, but he's going to be a colossal distraction for the rest of the game if he's town. i do not want a player like this alive day 2 onwards.
and if he's scum, well, then he's badscum and verydead. i feel this is the more likely outcome but chamber certainly isn't off my radar either.

[Parama]

298 feels really town to me, tbh, i like that post a lot and i can see where chamber's coming from. notice how my tone completely changed in the post responding to it lol

[TheIrishPope]

Eh I don't really care. Good luck town.

[Parama]

^that actually is AtE lol, omg
you're not hammered and you know you're not hammered so there's literally no reason for you to post that other than AtE

[TheIrishPope]

Ok

[Parama]

seriously, this is pathetic.
level with me. why aren't you scum? if you're not even going to fight it you're playing against your wincon, regardless of alignment

[Rainbow Unicat]

NM, Tip and...o.0 in our group are our scum-reads. Pie over Bins.

Para's 356 is way too close to what I'm feeling rn. In a way I'm ready for today to be over.

Thoughts?

-b

[Lucky2u]

Edo, comeback and let's lynch nm. We can be friends because he is scum.

[InflatablePie]

I'm probably getting lynched today

really can't decide if Unicat or Bins is scum. I want to lean Bins for that one Plot post but...

@Bella-Cat

, wanna explain 181 please

because Plot-head addressed specifics of my problems with the first post, but did not address why you misrepped me here.

[InflatablePie]

one of you two gets to answer 181 btw. I said PlotCat's catchup was IIoA and my eyes glazed over (that was a bitch to do that dissection above btw) but then launched into multiple reasons why their early post gave me a scumread on them (despite pushing Bins instead for ~reactions~). and then I got misrepped by BellaCat, "most of my issues are with Plot's playstyle". Despite BellaCat making the post I went into detail on.

yeah so PlotCat's catchup just looks like a lot of IIoA which makes my eyes glaze over every single time

reads explained:

- Cat's first post (19 pinged me as scum. lack of vote, instead an FoS @ Bins, commenting on a few things in a generic 'scum faking involvement' fashion, and mainly the comment about NM being 'fluffy' ~14 posts into the game. 'sides, to NM's credit, he did comment that TIP's entrance was bad, so I don't even think that's particularly fluffy.

I told her to use hurt tags instead of vote because we didn't understand the setup or whether it was safe to vote yet.

Both heads of this hydra have trouble telling when things are literal and when things are joking and we both find jokes confusing. Like we can get as far as "someone's using sarcasm here maybe" and then we get stuck. Why are they saying something that isn't true? If someone is claiming scum in RVS is that haha just serious or haha just kidding? We can't tell. I always scumread someone who says they're conftown unless there is modconfirmation.

We both find the first few pages of games to be overwhelming incomprehensible noise. We both tend to scumread people for overly jokey entrances into games but we know that's not alignment indicative for not_mafia.

This is the last micro I sign up for. Micro games seem to condense all of the parts of the game that I don't understand into one piece and then the game is over before we get to the part where I know how to play.

[InflatablePie]

yeah so PlotCat's catchup just looks like a lot of IIoA which makes my eyes glaze over every single time

reads explained:

- Cat's first post (19 pinged me as scum. lack of vote, instead an FoS @ Bins, commenting on a few things in a generic 'scum faking involvement' fashion, and mainly the comment about NM being 'fluffy' ~14 posts into the game. 'sides, to NM's credit, he did comment that TIP's entrance was bad, so I don't even think that's particularly fluffy.

Ugh, even though Pie is voting for us, his recent posting looks really town-y. Especially the unvoting. However, a lot of his issues with ploti-cat are play-style: trust me, this is her 'tryharding' as town.

[Parama]

Edo, comeback and let's lynch nm. We can be friends because he is scum.

if edo wants to lynch NM this post isn't going to convince him to do so, actually the opposite imo

why would you be getting lynched pie

[InflatablePie]

because both my groupmates are 'scumleaning' me and I can't decide which of them is scum

and whichever one is scum will have no trouble voting me, and if they're both town, me being undecided is probably just making them paranoid

so

also:

i find pie really "searchy" and awkward and like he gets a step ahead of himself only to find he doesn't have any proof to justify his actions

I take offense to this

[InflatablePie]

you know I'm actually considering the possibility of our group being all town.

that's annoying.

but I'll wait until Cat responds to think about this game more.