WiFom City: Don't Trust Titus - GAME OVER

[Klingoncelt]

The duelling Gratuitous and Klingon wagons will still be valuable for VCA when we have some flips.

^That.

Admittedly, the Grib wagon adds to that...but mainly it goes to demonstrate why Grib is so hilariously town and the wagons on both Kling and Gratuitous are far more likely to be on scum.

Like...they were both near lynch. L-2 and L-3. Neither one of them were forced to claim.

Suddenly...BAM. With no claim. Nothing but AtE. The wagon on Grib forms, and continues to grow, literally overnight. (Seriously, I was here Saturday. There wasn't a Grib wagon. It's Sunday. Now there is.)

You fail scumhunting 101 if you don't realize the implications of that.

Gee... maybe I missed something.

Mastin, could you please, pretty please point out some towny things Grib posted?

[Klingoncelt]

I'm pretty sure that The Goat slot, now

Pisskop, is Scum

.

I'm certain that

Grib is Sum

.

I'm also certain that

Blue Blur is Scum

. Do your own ISO of BB. Lots of not much content in there, along with not really any kind of case being made on anyone.

VOTE: Blue Blur

I think

Mastin might be Scum

, but her circumstances being what they are, she can wait until Day 2.

I'm

not liking Muffin

much.

I was voting for Grib before I switched to you.

The Piss slot I think is Scum, but I want to give Piss a chance to catch up and redeem the slot.

I really

don't like Drixx/ZZZX

, I pointed out their creepy request for a roleblocker,

and they made the same damn request a second time.

So there are 5 players I think are Scum.

@mod...can we get a votecount?

I'll vote for whichever wagon's bigger.

What in the actual fuck.

Are you normally that lazy a player?

So you're scum reading (to various degrees):
Pisskop
Grib
The Blue Blur
mastin2
Muffin
Drizzx
singersigner

Riiiight.......

Yes, right.

The hell you expect on Day1?

And there's a BIG difference between "I'm thinking ___ might be" and "I'm certain ___ is."

[Banana Frog]

And there's a BIG difference between "I'm thinking ___ might be" and "I'm certain ___ is."

Hence why I said "to varying degrees"

[Titus]

St Constantine the Hermit replaces Grib

[Klingoncelt]

UNVOTE: Grib

VOTE: St Constantine the Hermit

[St Constantine the Hermit]

Da' arsehole I replaced in for used excessive tunnel vision on Klingy

UNVOTE: Klingoncelt

[Prolapsed Brain]

But she's

totally

scum.

[St Constantine the Hermit]

This is one bloody fucking long day! I only ISO'd Grib, and saw that like 24 out of his 26 posts were tunneling Klingon. Can someone update me on the other wagons?

[St Constantine the Hermit]

Prozac, I haven't read the game. I haven't even read any of the vote counts. All I know is that my slot tunneled the shit out of Klingy.

Usually I am okay with random lynching on day one, but I at least want some time before I commit myself to something.

[St Constantine the Hermit]

Klingon reads town to me (despite the fact that she was reactionary to Grib). I saw that Klingon was a counterwagon to Bulbadozor, why did that wagon die?

[ZZZX]

This head can't post for 8 more hours due to real life stuff. How can so much shit happen in one week.

I will pick this up later from the hydra but am low on time

[mastin2]

Matsin, tell oversoul hes wrong so we can Get Grat.

We'd get better results if I told him he was right.

Please explain how dismantling 2 Town wagons is anti-Town.

Well to put it bluntly, because we don't know they're on town. Every time there's dueling town wagons that grow this large and at least one of them falls for a flashwagon elsewhere, it is an exception to the general rule that one of the wagons at minimum was on scum. Badly worded, not sure how to get the concept across, but basically, even discarding reads (which point to Grib town anyway), the wagons themselves can suggest alignment.

Mastin, could you please, pretty please point out some towny things Grib posted?

It'd be a lie to say everything, but...everything that's really anything?

St Constantine the Hermit replaces Grib

You know, my passion for fighting the Grib wagon just suddenly died down.

Wonder why?

[Klingoncelt]

Mastin, I know I'm Town. I think Grat might be as well.

It doesn't do shit for Town if both wagons are Town.

[Metal Sonic]

WOTC HERMIT

[Firebringer]

Gratuitous

(9): Quoth The Pidgeon, Flubbernugget, Prolapsed Brain, Firebringer, The Blue Blur, Muffin, Bulbazoor, TriforceP, Klingoncelt

Klingoncelt

(8): Atum, PeregrineV, Grib, MaxwellPuckett, mastin2, Banana Frog, Drizzx, singersigner

PeregrineV

(1): Oversoul

Bulbazoor

(1): Gratuitous

Oversoul

(1): LittleGumball

Not Voting

(1): pisskop

Fro99er head of Banana Frog Hydra's unofficial current VC for wagon analysis purposes

Klingoncelt

(7): Atum, PeregrineV, Grib, mastin2, Banana Frog, Drizzx, singersigner

Grib

(8):

Firebringer

,

The Blue Blur

,

Klingoncelt

, LittleGumball,

Muffin

,

MaxwellPuckett

,

Quoth The Pidgeon

,

Bulbazoor

Gratuitous

(3): Flubbernugget, Prolapsed Brain, TriforceP

PeregrineV

(1): Oversoul

Bulbazoor

(1): Gratuitous

Not Voting

(1): pisskop

Orange is people from Grat wagon

and

Pink is people from Kling wagon

What this tells me is most likely scum are moving from one wagon to the other, so Grat and Grib are likely town. The Kling wagon means Kling is probably scum because scum don't want to join that wagon.

Maxwell is a hard townread for me, and he is the only one moving from the Kling wagon, so I think he's safe.

Fire, TBB, Kling, Muffin, Quoth, and Bulba are the switchers. To me, Fire, TBB, Kling, and Bulba are the ones worth keeping an eye on as possible scum. Especially Kling, as that wagon has still stalled. Also, Gumball is VERY suspicious here, not willing to be on the Kling wagon (or the Grat wagon), but willing to hop on the Grib one.

At the very least, I agree with TBB that Grib is probably town based off the quick movement onto Grib. Reminds me of BEES which Metal head of TBB played in, where all the late wagon switches were all from town (Gratuitous) onto town (Grib)

-Frog

I enjoy the analysis if the wagon except it's all completely wrong.
I can't speak for everyone who jumped ships but I feel at least three who jumped are town.
Not including me, which I am town.

[mastin2]

WOTC HERMIT

Honestly, if my last post didn't make it obvious, I can...kinda get behind supporting this.

[The Blue Blur]

WOTC HERMIT

That's why I made it obvious, dearie.


Any more people to support? Let's have 4

[Firebringer]

VOTE: Hermit
The slot is scummy not PL.

[The Blue Blur]

No, if he is town at least maybe a good player can obvtown fast maybe. If he is scum then ha ha.

But either way hermit should get out and stop replacing into games

[Flubbernugget]

VOTE: klingon

If grat doesn't die tonight he's either the sk we apparently have or the sk sits within the vi's of the game

[St Constantine the Hermit]

Do you know how frustrating it is to replace into a game just to be lynched? I really wanted to replace into this game, which is why I personally volunteered. I would really like to continue playing.

But here I am taking the one slot in the game that has 8 or 9 votes on it, trying to salvage whatever town points I can in order to make it to the second goddamn day!

[St Constantine the Hermit]

WOTC HERMIT

I have no fucking idea what this means, but fuck you!

Me and Klingon should both claim. With the excessive tunneling that has been going on in this game, you pretty much assured whomever doesn't get lynched today is going to resurge as a wagon later in the game.

[St Constantine the Hermit]

Here is what I am thinking. My slot tunneled Klingoncelt a lot, but my gut isn't telling me that Klingoncelt is scum. I think that it is odd that there are two extremely long wagons on day one without one being on scum.

That makes me think there is some kind of creative/unconventional plan to cause as much confusion and disorder day one

The other wagon that dissipated was Bulbadozor. I actually AM scum reading that slot. I say if both me

AND

Klingon claim today, and maybe we can both be confirmed during the nights, and that way neither of our wagons will resurge later in the game.

VOTE: Bulbadozor

[The Blue Blur]

For fucks sake.

Get the fuck out constantine. We are not going to end up policy on that slot

[The Blue Blur]

VOTE: klingon

If grat doesn't die tonight he's either the sk we apparently have or the sk sits within the vi's of the game

You know what. I almost want to intent to hammer to save Constantine from PL.