Mini 1701 - Modified Werewolf 13er

[Zoronos]

@Zoro

zoronos what are your thoughts on absta?

you said you had him as scum, then that you would reread him, and have not really mentioned him since. what the deal with that?

Anyway. I think my read on him yesterday was wrong. The sequence starting at 784 through the next 10 posts or so seems towny. Unless he was completely resigned to his partner's lynch, he is trying to get people to not expand the lynch pool, but rather to keep it focused on Boon and Banakai. I think he's wrong about BBT, but wrong happens, so *shrug*.
Not inclined to vote him.

Here it looks like you are saying i'm a town read.

Huh, so I did. Well, stop being lazy then.
My critique of your lazy voting remains valid.

[absta101]

Alright good stuff. Let's lynch him guys.

[Zoronos]

Anyway, vanilla villager. Hammer at your leisure scum.

Are you happy to keep your vote on Kmd4390?

I outlined the other options and my thoughts like a page ago when Absta asked.
Yeah, I am fine choosing this as the hill I die on. The only other place I'd move my vote at this juncture is RedCoyote, since his case is also poop. I was giving him the benefit of the doubt because of how early he was on Banakai.

I feel like nobody reads and digests thoughts I post this game, oh well. Shan't be my problem much longer.

[Zoronos]

Absta - Why do you care that I'm picking at your vote as not-well-reasoned?
You're going in on the 'why me but not <that other guy>' aspect.

[redFF]

nobody hammer until Tony comes and gives us his opinion

[absta101]

Absta - Why do you care that I'm picking at your vote as not-well-reasoned?
You're going in on the 'why me but not <that other guy>' aspect.

It seemed odd that you would ignore Redff doing a vote in the exact same way. Of course I will ask you why.

Your answer has shown that your read on me isn't genuine.

[Zoronos]

k

[redFF]

btw absta has been mentioning zoro as possible scum for a while with little reasoning, and then put him at L-1. Pretty much exactly what he did yesterday with the Banakai wagon, will be interesting to look at after the flip tbh.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Hey, look at redff doing things now he has been called out for lurking.

We should lynch him tomorrow.

[absta101]

VOTE: Banakai

VOTE: Banakai
As promised. He is L-2 now I think.

Almost certainly scum in one of these 2 votes, assuming banakai flips scum

btw absta has been mentioning zoro as possible scum for a while with little reasoning, and then put him at L-1. Pretty much exactly what he did yesterday with the Banakai wagon, will be interesting to look at after the flip tbh.

If zoro flips scum, I think it's YOU who will look the worst.

[Kmd4390]

I'm not leaving my wagon.

I'm curious if you still feel this way 5 days to deadline. What about when it's 3? 1? Can you remind me what your stance is on TonyMontana, absta, and Zoro?

Zoro, I could be wrong but I feel like I talked about Ban more than you, especially once he got wagoned.

Got an opinion on Zoro, but since he's at L-1 I assume there's a claim forthcoming that I want to see first.

I'd like to know more about this opinion. I see absta is interested as well. And Keyser.

Yeah, I am fine choosing this as the hill I die on. The only other place I'd move my vote at this juncture is RedCoyote, since his case is also poop

Two things with this. You honestly think scum just chose to pick on you specifically and it caught on with the town? And what happened to your TonyMontana suspicion or your issues with absta's vote on you?

[Boonskiies]

Did someone say L-1?

VOTE: Zoronos

[redFF]

Hey, look at redff doing things now he has been called out for lurking.

We should lynch him tomorrow.

complete nonsense post

ive been doing things, when was I called out for lurking? unless ur talking TM, in which case him calling out anyone for lurking is laughable since he has by far the least amount of posts in this game.

[redFF]

boonskies fuck u for letting tony off the hook tbh

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Fake aggression ^^^

Boon, I really don't like that hammer.

[Kmd4390]

I forgot about Boon's "hammer everything" attitude for a second there...

[BlueBloodedToffee]

I'm curious if you still feel this way 5 days to deadline. What about when it's 3? 1? Can you remind me what your stance is on TonyMontana, absta, and Zoro?

Not that it matters but I was not leaving my wagon. I was leaning town on Tony due to his early D2 posting - I'm not so sure now as I liked one of Absta's recent posts.

I am leaning town on Absta - I explained this in a recent post when I ISO'ed him. I saw some things that could be scum and some that could be town; town posting outweighed the scum posting.

Zoro I feel is also town - mostly due to his posting outside of his interactions with Banakai. His posting has been pretty solid and his recent string of posting (after looking like an inevitable lynch) has strengthened my read on him flipping town.

[redFF]

Fake aggression ^^^

Boon, I really don't like that hammer.

lol u r town but u have been flailing around trying to force crap scumreads this entire game. why dont u take this night phase to calm down and realize nobody agrees with anything you're saying

[Shinobi]

Vote Count

Zoronos

(6):

RedCoyote, Kmd4390, Keyser Söze, redFF, absta101, Boonskiies

Tony Montana

(1):

Bulbazoor

redFF

(1):

BlueBloodedToffee

BlueBloodedToffee

(1):

Doctor Who

Kmd4390

(1):

Zoronos

Not Voting

(1):

Tony Montana

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

A lynch has been achieved.

Deadline

: (expired on 2015-08-22 14:00:00)

[Shinobi]

Second Nightfall

The villagers already picked out their second suspect and burned him atop a ritual funeral pyre they saved for only the most holy of occasions - his associations to those that had been corrupt were too great for them to ignore.

Sadly, he was in the wrong place at the wrong time, and his diligence in searching for the other evils afforded him no luxuries.

Zoronos was lynched. He was a...

Spoiler:

Villager

Night 2 ends on August 19, at 12:00 PM EST.
Deadline

: (expired on 2015-08-19 11:00:00)

[Shinobi]

Third Dawn

Most of the villagers were already awake by the time the sun had rose. They thought that the sounds of the savage beasts in the night wouldn't disturb their slumber if they willed themselves to sleep.

How wrong they were.

Kmd4390 was devoured by werewolves. He was a...

Spoiler:

Villager

Day 3 ends on September 2, at 12:30 PM EST.
Deadline

: (expired on 2015-09-02 11:30:00)

[redFF]

is absta and tony too obvious a scumteam here?

i feel like the kmd kill and flip is supposed to make us look at the first few votes on the zoronos wagon, but i think absta's hop on it reeks of opportunistic scum, same with his hop on the banakai wagon day 1, except that was a bus

vote:absta

[RedCoyote]

I'm going to scrap the idea of trying to read based on who townread Banakai because I think that path just leads us to BBT. Kmd was kind of an odd kill because Zoro was gunning for him yesterday pretty hard.

Anyway, okay, so, there were only two people that were pushing townreads on Zoro without articulating them. Boon and Bulba. Bulba has continually shirked any sort of duties and has been really starting to get under my skin. His Zoro read was particularly lame. He thought Zoro was town, but did very little to stop that lynch. BBT, to his credit, worked very hard to put the brakes on it. I do not think scum would've been as strong as he was in his fight to stop the wagon. Boonskiies is so hard to read, but despite him ignoring this game, he has the benefit of shenanigans from earlier on when he claimed. I don't like the way he's playing, but I also don't think it's particularly pro-scum. Bulba is the only player that wasn't voting Zoro, called him town, but never really tried to get an alternative lynch going. BBT fought tooth and nail to get redFF as a candidate. I wish I could just say, "well, I was wrong about Zoro, so I guess I'll just follow BBT's lead", but I do not think, in my heart of hearts, that redFF is the best lynch today. He could very well be scum, but Bulba is the player I feel most comfortable lynching today. He hasn't been using his vote effectively at all (sans voting Banakai D1). He voted TM late D2 and never moved it. The vote was a crappy vote, too. Let me quote it:

VOTE: Tony
I have a iso check on him day two. I want to see where the wagon goes so I can get a wagon analysis. Plus, I think everyone else is town except for this and like a few others.

1) He never ISO checked TM at all. That was madeup to pad his vote and make it look like he was deliberating more than he actually did.
2) "I want to see where this wagon does so I can get a wagon analysis" Huh? Well, it went nowhere, so what did you learn, Bulba? He doesn't talk about this at all. This is more padding. He's not serious about this at all.
3) Why is it so hard for him to list his town/scum reads? Who are "a few others"? Why is he so secretive? To his credit, he called Zoro town, but then he disappeared. Why didn't get try to sell anyone on TM? Why did he more or less just accept the Zoro lynch?

VOTE: Bulbazoor

[RedCoyote]

V/LA until Friday

[Doctor Who]

I've been slacking, admittedly I didn't think day 2 was going to end so soon. Needless to say, with Boon around L-2 is the new L-1.

In the meantime, how about the Angel claiming?