NY 187: Pariah's Mafia [/FIN]

[Aeronaut]

Woo!

I can't say I was totally sure there but w/e. That works.

Garmr was counter-wagon to Dave - Garmr is town.

People who pushed Garmr/avoided Dave need to be looked at.

VOTE: Fire

This is scum.

What makes fire scum to you over the rest of the people who countered the dave wagon?

[BlueBloodedToffee]

It is.

I just thought you agreed that you were a good lynch and would like to contribute towards said lynch happening.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Did you see the posts I quoted?

Did you see Kop's reasoning for joining my wagon when it was in the ascendancy?

Did you see Kop's overall play?

[Firebringer]

I mean those posts do paint me as pretty damn scummy.

I didn't see Dave as scummy, I also never voted gamr bit as you say I was "prepared too"

[BlueBloodedToffee]

You were just waiting for someone to nudge you in Garmr's direction.

Especially given you said you thought Dave was town...I don't understand why your decision was so difficult...

[Aeronaut]

Also, I'm feeling like the early <vote> on the Dave wagon means it definately belonged to A) a serial killer or B) A second scum faction not related to Dave's.

Although I'm of struggling to comprehend how a double voter on JUST ONE scum faction makes any sense balance-wise, unless there's two and someone just isn't using theirs.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Like, there are two competing wagons and you're town reading one of the people being wagoned.

It seems obvious where your vote should go...

PEdit - I've given up on that secret vote. It's WIFOM at best. I still stand by the fact that if we're in multi-ball then FA slipped.

[Firebringer]

So anyone have someone else to suspect besides me?

[BlueBloodedToffee]

I hope not.

This should be a real quick DP. I mean, if you're town, you should be looking for your own suspects. Not looking for the rest of town to provide you with one.

[Aeronaut]

VOTE: davesaz

Null on Gamr

Obvious bussing. Even gives himself a reason to jump off by 'looking into them both more later'. He had already done a 'bit of reading' and decided Dave was a good vote.

I vote Dave cause gamr wasn't pinging scum to me so went for next best thing

Making his vote look weak so he can easily backtrack from it.

Hmmm UNVOTE: davesaz

This wagon isn't that good either.
I am getting town from davesaz most.

While gamr is more active most of his content is well lackluster. I don't think it is really coming from scum though.

I don't really like either of these tbh.
Feels like two wagons on town.

Now he is getting town from Dave? Where did this come from? Unfortunately, Fire was so generic and vague about his reads that it's hard to criticize them. It does show a very clear lack of read progression though.

I guess gamr is a better wagon, but idk.
Don't really trust it.

Looking to hop on Garmr if presented with the opportunity of just Garmr or Dave.

I don't know who to vote!!!!

Someone give me compelling case in either.
This is frustrating neither appear scummy.

Acting like nobody had provided reasons for either Dave or Garmr being scum.

Can we speed lynch this?

Yea. I can get behind this

VOTE: Firebringer

[Aeronaut]

I think 1421 is especially weird, actually. He goes from having voted dave without explanation to saying he's "getting dave as town the most". Then, he ALSO says that it's because he doesn't like the dave wagon. Which is it, really?

[Aeronaut]

I wouldn't be surprised if that were just distancing.

[Firebringer]

Pretty much

Well went back to look at votes to see anything suspicious.

I'll go with this for now:
VOTE: dragonspawn

Reason: voted gamr

I know weak reason, but w/e

[Keyser Söze]

I am going to look at Shazam's ISO (came on to the davesaz wagon late) and Titus' ISO (opposed the davesaz lynch D2).

[BlueBloodedToffee]

I wouldn't be surprised if that were just distancing.

Yeah, that's how I'm reading it as well.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Thoughts on Fire Keyser?

[Keyser Söze]

davesaz, [Mafia] JoaT (1-Shot Ninja, 1-Shot Doctor, 1-Shot Cop)

has been lynched D2!

...pisskop never gave us the chance to celebrate

We can look at davesaz' ISO in D3 too (who he scum-read, who he defended, who he town-read, who he voted).

[Keyser Söze]

Thoughts on Fire Keyser?

When I am next online I'll give you my full thoughts on his slot. But I can remember him having no conviction in his reads/votes D2. Also, I always find it scummy/anti-town when someone arrives on the thread and votes someone without reading and catching-up first.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Great, I hope you read my post on Fire and decide he would be a great lynch choice for Today.

[Firebringer]

I should examine Dave more, I kinda doubt he buddies his scum allies though, not intensely at least.

Get back to you later.

[Annarchy]

hello friends

I haven't read yet but with the game being this long I'm probably going to get most of my reads from current events

[BlueBloodedToffee]

The first thing you can do is ISO read Fire and read my posting on him from Today.

That should give you a pretty good idea about what to do with your vote.

[Titus]

VOTE: Firebringer

Self-voting is totally legal. Unless it's lylo. :-p

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Mod, can we get a final VC inserted into D2 flip post please?

Here you go.

[dragonspawn]

Rc did something useful.

We got lucky with Dave. But I tend to agree garmr is my likely scum unless he is on another scum team. Which considering the flip I tho k we have a vig and a SK.