Open 606: Near-Vanilla 40k TOWN WINS

[Firebringer]

Reads List:

Town-
St Constantine the Hermit
Titus
Vedith
4ni3ty-(Leaning Null)

Null-
ika-(Some town vibes)
duppin
ForWhomTheJellyRolls
The Worst
Vampirate-(Slight scum lean)

Scum-
Yimmy
The Enigma

[duppin]

more or less
I might be wrong about 1 of my reads, but I highly doubt it atm

While I do understand your point, I don't really agree with you. I'd also like to point out you could probably argue the same thing about Vedith's train.

Anyway, if you believe ASP is scum please reconsider your town reads.

JellyRolls: Voted early on ASP and kept his vote there. If ASP flips scum, he is most likely town.
Hermit: Voted on him earlier and voted on him again after your previous post. A bit weird, but I'd have him as leaning town if ASP flips scum.
Vedith: Never voted on him even though Vedith was the leading train himself. I somehow doubt both of them are scum, so lean town.
TheWorst: Never voted on ASP and still has his vote on TheEnigma. If ASP flips scum, he is very suspicious.
Vampirate: Never voted on ASP, instead he voted on the most obvious alternative (Vedith). Fairly suspicious as well.

It is very easy to call a teammate suspicious while not actually voting on him. If ASP is scum, this is not a case of town spreading out but scum deflecting. They can easily return to the ASP train if they fail to push a mislynch on someone else, since they called him suspicious and then try to gain town cred.

If ASP is scum, I think your town reads are flawed and I believe the teammate(s) are to be found among the town reads you just gave.

I am tempted to join the ASP train currently, because I find the Vedith train more suspicious (I think Vampirate is fairly scummy).
If ASP flips scum, I am going after TheWorst and possibly Vampirate tomorrow, so please reconsider your read on them.

If he flips town, I am most likely going to focus on TheEnigma's slot (assuming he get's replaced).

[Vampirate]

Before I get to the Hermit case (when I get home) i'm going to point out a few things.

1. Imo there is probably 1, possibly 2 scum among

Hermit
Vamp
4nxi3ty
ASP
Vedith
Titus


2. 4nxi3ty and Titus seem way too confident in their reads atm considering it's Day 1, I can buy that they are both very good players however i'm iffy on it. A flip on either ASP or Hermit might shed light on either Titus, ASP or 4nxi3ty, Hermit and Vedith.

3. If either ASP or Hermit flip town, it doesn't guarantee that any people who defended them are town either as it's easy to defend a town read and soak up the town credit when they flip town if they were scum.

This is probably common knowledge but I wanted to point it out.

[4nxi3ty]

It is very easy to call a teammate suspicious while not actually voting on him. If ASP is scum, this is not a case of town spreading out but scum deflecting. They can easily return to the ASP train if they fail to push a mislynch on someone else, since they called him suspicious and then try to gain town cred.

true

but just because scum sometimes call a teammate suspicious and don't vote doesn't mean it happens all the time and anyone who does that should automatically be considered scummy.

that's not what is happening in this game

If ASP is scum, I think your town reads are flawed and I believe the teammate(s) are to be found among the town reads you just gave.

nah I'm fairly confident my reads are boss this game

like seriously if I'm right about ASP and Titus being a team here

my reading accuracy should be trusted
and these players should never be lynched:

hermit, vampirate, firebringer, duppin, yimmy, theworst, vedith

[Titus]

VC Please

1 day 14 hours 30 minutes as of this post

Catching up.

[ForWhomTheJellyRolls]

@ Mod I'm sorry but I request to be replaced. I cannot focus on this game right now. Sorry.

[A Simple Plan]

VOTE: Constantine (explanation below)

Skimmed to try to put this out so we can decide.

A Simple Plan- 4 4nxi3ty, randomidget, ForWhomTheJellyRolls, St Constantine The Hermit
The Enigma- 1 TheWorst
duppin- 2 ika, The Enigma
Firebringer- 0
Vedith- 0
randomidget- 0
Vampirate- 1 duppin
ika- 0
St Constantine the Hermit- 3 Yimmy, Titus, Vampirate, A Simple Plan
4nxi3ty- 0
Yimmy- 1 Firebringer
TheWorst- 1 Vedith
ForWhomTheJellyRolls- 0
Titus - 0

Not Voting-

With 14 alive it takes 8 to lynch.

With that said, Constantine's vote changed like ten times while I was trying to do this. It's like he's not even trying to appear town, and if he is, he's certainly not acting in a pro-town fashion. All he's done is cause confusion.

So with that being said, > 2 days, and he and I are the top two lynch candidates right now. Do what needs to be done, because even if I die it'll provide something to analyze over a no lynch. I'm vanilla town since I won't be around to claim if need be later, so even if I'm chosen you're not losing a PR.

Mod: V/LA through Sunday.

we'll be in night when I get back.

[ika]

ok i cna lynch simple plan

[St Constantine the Hermit]

so even if I'm chosen you're not losing a PR

Good point! Ika, on the wagon we go!

[Vedith]

UNVOTE: The Worst

My opinion on TheWorst still stands.
However, as I haven't been able to be involved too much and I won't be until Monday properly, I will vote where it will matter.

VOTE: ASP

@Mod - I am V/LA until Monday. However, I will have minor access via phone.

[Randomnamechange]

Am I here?
If I am im sticking with my vote.

[Firebringer]

Am I here?
If I am im sticking with my vote.

Are you imaginary?
Is this just a fantasy?

What the difference between real and not real? Is it just semantics?

Am I real?

[TheWorst]

Mod hasn't visited for nearly four days, makes me a bit worried.

And now Jelly wants to leave?

@Duppin So basically if ASP, the one scum lean read I have and never been against a lynch for (plus contributed to), turns out scum, then I'm scum? Just because I stuck my vote on Enigma like I promised? Ok, that's a fantastic bus right there by me if I ever saw one on Day 1. And if he turns out to be town, then what?
And Vedith continues to contribute with no real reasoning other than his original "scum feeling". Fantastic, great, excellent.

---

Since the day is apparently ending (16 hours left) and mod ded, screw Enigma at this point I want a lynch. ASP vs Hermit, I'll easily take ASP.

UNVOTE: The Enigma
VOTE: A Simple Plan

Also because I'll be V/LA until Tuesday.

[Vampirate]

UNVOTE:

VOTE: A Simple Plan

Switching votes.

I'd like to see where this leads, also we just need to get a lynch going.

[Randomnamechange]

Reactions upon reading up:
Oh God it's Titus. Please don't be 6 for 6 as non-town.
I second the third plan.

Am I here?
If I am im sticking with my vote.

Are you imaginary?
Is this just a fantasy?

What the difference between real and not real? Is it just semantics?

Am I real?

This guy gets it.
I've forgotten my role PM.

[ika]

VOTE: a simple plan

hey guess what thats hammer

now we can move on with the god damned fucking game

[Randomnamechange]

Night phase should be enough for me to catch up.
I'm might PM the list mod about RS

[Vampirate]

You know, considering we do not know when the mod will be back this could be a long twilight.

[St Constantine the Hermit]

ASP, alignment?

[Vampirate]

ASP won't be here till Sunday apparently.

[TheWorst]

Let's discuss the game in the mean time then.

It's my scumday today! I forgot to mention!

ok I'll leave now. Just needed to make that Public Service Announcement.

[Reubus Swagrid]

1.5

(expired on 2015-08-23 19:30:00)

A Simple Plan- 8 (4nxi3ty, randomidget, ForWhomTheJellyRolls, St Constantine the Hermit, Vedith, TheWorst, Vampirate, ika)

St Constantine the Hermit- 3 (Yimmy, Titus, A Simple Plan)
Yimmy- 1 (Firebringer)
duppin- 1 (The Enigma)
Titus- 1 (duppin)
The Enigma*- 0
Firebringer- 0
Vedith- 0
randomidget- 0
ika- 0
4nxi3ty- 0
TheWorst- 0
ForWhomTheJellyRolls*- 0
Vampirate- 0

With 14 alive it takes 8 to lynch.

ASP was lynched!

[Reubus Swagrid]

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Vanilla Townie (Imperial Guardsman)
Welcome, you are a Vanilla Townie.
Abilities: Your weapon is your vote, you have no night actions.
Win condition: You win when all threats to the town have been eliminated.


"Men, we are the first, last and often only line of defence the Imperium has against what is out there. You and that fine piece of Imperial weaponry you hold in your hands is all that is keeping humanity alive. Most of you will probably not live to see your second year in the Guard and most of you will probably never see your homeworlds again, but I can guarantee you that when you do fall, with a prayer to the most high and mighty God-Emperor on your lips, you will have earned the right to call yourself a man!"

[Reubus Swagrid]

Night Phase is in affect, night roles PM me.

(expired on 2015-08-25 10:20:00)

[Reubus Swagrid]

Day 2 starts now!

Titus was brutally beaten in the night!

The local guard search his battered corpse only to find he was an innocent guardsman and a loyal servant of the Imperium