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[Scorpious]

Wow,this is falling apart quickly..

are we getting 1 or 2 replacements now?

[catboi]

not digging this inconsistency. just seems like it's just throwing whatever out there. putting my vote back down. This slot is causing a lot of contention. might be best to just get rid of it anyway. One because I think it's scum..2. to get us out of this limbo stage..


VOTE: RC

This is a very poor justification.

I can see him questioning his read on you given the posts in between, hardly think it's a scum tell. The idea of lynching a player simply because their slot is controversial is lazy, just an excuse for following popular sentiment.

Sad thing is I can see this being a justification from town that doesn't want to think critically but scorp has made a lot of posts that bug me

I'm not going to risk getting repunished by offering a sig bet, but I'm pretty damn sure it's Jeandarc and Scorpious at this point.

Have you looked at Jean's play as scum in his completed newbie game at all? The way he's acting now doesn't seem similar to that at all.


Still absolutely think shinobi should be the vote, getting ignored on that front is becoming frustrating, going to argue more for it tonight

[Ranmaru]

Only one, I already did say RC can stay since most are fine with him. I will look for a replacement for Spiffeh.

[Ranmaru]

Votecount 1.9

Shinobi:

catboi, JeanDarc

Scorpious:

Lextrew, vijay2vasandani

Psyche
JeanDarc:

Shinobi, RadiantCowbells

LexTrew
vijay2vasandani
Kyubey The Kid:

Lextrew

RadiantCowbells:

Psyche, Kyubey The Kid, Scorpius

catboi

Not Voting

:
No one.

Notes:

Replacing Spiffeh.

*= Currently being replaced
**= V/la

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch
Deadline for Day 1 is Tuesday, September 8th, 11:59 PM EST.

[LexTrew]

K guys sorry, im starting to feel apathy towards this game.

I will try to catch up tomorrow night.

[Kyubey The Kid]

not digging this inconsistency. just seems like it's just throwing whatever out there. putting my vote back down. This slot is causing a lot of contention. might be best to just get rid of it anyway. One because I think it's scum..2. to get us out of this limbo stage..


VOTE: RC

This is a very poor justification.

I can see him questioning his read on you given the posts in between, hardly think it's a scum tell. The idea of lynching a player simply because their slot is controversial is lazy, just an excuse for following popular sentiment.

Sad thing is I can see this being a justification from town that doesn't want to think critically but scorp has made a lot of posts that bug me

I'm not going to risk getting repunished by offering a sig bet, but I'm pretty damn sure it's Jeandarc and Scorpious at this point.

Have you looked at Jean's play as scum in his completed newbie game at all? The way he's acting now doesn't seem similar to that at all.


Still absolutely think shinobi should be the vote, getting ignored on that front is becoming frustrating, going to argue more for it tonight

Yup, I agree with RC here, Scorpious has flip-flopped on RC a few times now. It's certainly starting to look suspicious...

@Catboi Why are you so intent on lynching Shinobi? I don't think he's done anything so out of the ordinary for you to be this adamant about it.

[Shinobi]

God this tunnel is so tedious.

[Ranmaru]

Psyche replaces Spiffeh! Welcome, Psyche!

[Psyche]

Relax.

[Psyche]

vote Shinobi

[Shinobi]

Uhhhhh why?

[Psyche]

from reading the first few pages

[Shinobi]

...And?

[catboi]

vote Shinobi

yes...Yeeesssssss

@Catboi Why are you so intent on lynching Shinobi? I don't think he's done anything so out of the ordinary for you to be this adamant about it.

well he's done plenty to deserve it, but you and most of the game seem to have tuned things out, possibly because you're only looking at a very surface level.

(went to reread and now I

know

I'm getting ignored because I left a sentence unfinished in 347 and no one called me on it)

Read 232. Shinobi's basis for his reads have been based on extremely shallow premises, and he's been trying to lynch people for not explaining their reads, but is unwilling to explain his own reads when pressed to do so. It's a contradictory stance, and his sarcasm/dismissiveness in response from him doesn't make sense coming from town - at this point he should either be trying to reason with me, or he thinks i'm scum and trying to get him lynched (and that's clearly not the case). But snarky responses like 234 and 238 effectively just shut down communication and serve to dismiss my arguments in people's minds. If "unexplained reads" were legitimately a scumtell for him he'd do the best he could to explain his, but he's adamantly against this whenever I try to press him for reasoning. (i also get a sense he doesn't really believe this is a tell).

Regardless he's held largely static reads throughout the game, only essentially backing off on me because I proved to be too much to handle. I don't think a read of who is "useful" or not is a.) a good basis for a scumread or b.) something you can plausibly decide within 3 pages of a game. It seems contrived, like he's just looking for people to fit in a particular box that has very little to do with whether or not they're town or scum. And that's all he's really said about it, if you read him.

241 is a bland suck-up response, actually. It's the post scum make when they see town applying effort it - give a vague compliment and move on. He doesn't really say

why

he likes kyubey's post, he just says he does and then never re-visits anything about it. It's similar to his pronounced townreads spifeeh and vijay in 104 and 108 for, essentially, activity (which is not a tell by any stretch of the imagination) when vijay's lone meaningful game content to that point was post 100 - I find it incredibly hard to believe someone could get a town read off that post and "like the way [he's] are thinking about this game", because to that point, you really can't get any sense of the way vijay's reading the game. Even though I reasonably read him as town I feel like the spiffeh read bugged me too though I can't remember why. (Also criticized this in 142, btw). It reads a lot more like scum picking out players to call town that it does town looking at genuine town-tells.

Put simply I just don't buy his reads as coming from a legitimate scumhunting process. (I thought I had some better way of putting things but I lost the thought.) The most he ever gives for voting Jean is in post 157, which is incredibly weak reasoning, and he's offered essentially no analysis since then.

p-edit: psyche, I want to kiss you

[Shinobi]

I don't see what I haven't explained.
Your bit on shutting down communication is completely meaningless.
Your bit on you being "too much to handle" is completely inconsistent with the fact that I thought it was more likely you would be town when you started going nuts over something that didn't exist.
I don't understand what's wrong with having static reads. The only static read that I, myself, might have issue with is my bit on vijay, but even then I have a good scumread that I am pursuing instead.
And I don't understand your bit on me voting for Jean and not having anything since, considering I have to keep pressing for info but he keeps either overlooking it or ignoring it or keeps taking absurdly long periods of time to answer things.

[catboi]

Yeah, not getting into this again, nothing you've said is convincing and you're not my audience here.

[Shinobi]

Yeah, not getting into this again, nothing you've said is convincing and you're not my audience here.

Hilarious.

[Psyche]

you're just so awkward shino

[Shinobi]

Just an fyi that my townlean on CB is extremely tentative. He's the lowest on my townlist and if anyone I want to lynch ends up being town then I'd suggest we discuss him at some extent. It does kind of seem like he doesn't give a shit about what I say unless he can smear it which is really not towny.

Pedit - What does that even

mean

?

[Shinobi]

Something I realized when actually reading this drivel:

It's a contradictory stance, and his sarcasm/dismissiveness in response from him doesn't make sense coming from town - at this point he should either be trying to reason with me, or he thinks i'm scum and trying to get him lynched (and that's clearly not the case).

Yeah, not getting into this again, nothing you've said is convincing and you're not my audience here.

Much logic.

[Psyche]

I don't even know what point you're trying to make now shino.

[RadiantCowbells]

I think he's town right now. I'm highly unlikely to vote Shino again today, particularly with my major scumreads maneuvering around the area.

I'd prefer to vote one of the two people I already listed.

[Psyche]

okay im trolling and will now stop

[Shinobi]

okay im trolling and will now stop

Will you though?

[Psyche]

Don't make it hard not to.