Mini 1705: Game Over

Klingoncelt · Post Post #1325 (ISO) » Thu Sep 03, 2015 8:53 pm

I have to crash. It's nearly 4am.

BananaCucho · Post Post #1326 (ISO) » Thu Sep 03, 2015 8:53 pm

In post 1322, Klingoncelt wrote:
In post 1317, BananaCucho wrote:
In post 1315, Klingoncelt wrote:Correction:

There are 2 VT's, 2 PRs and 3 Scums left.

Then you or Fire is lying if that's the case

Is that set in stone? Or a rough template that usually is followed?

The set in stone version is the Matrix 6 template, used in Newbie games. It's almost certainly what's going on here.

What??? That doesn't make sense. Salamance's role didn't fit there

http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Matrix6

This one?

BananaCucho · Post Post #1327 (ISO) » Thu Sep 03, 2015 8:55 pm

Wait, does his role fall under town cop?

LOL then masons are seriously impossible!!!!

Lmao GG Duppin and Barcode bad claim

BananaCucho · Post Post #1328 (ISO) » Thu Sep 03, 2015 9:03 pm

Flavor. I get it now!

Good God I should have asked someone about this sooner!

Kling if Gale is scum with Barcode and Duppin then 4 VTs would make sense

Sam and Gale CLAIM

BananaCucho · Post Post #1329 (ISO) » Thu Sep 03, 2015 9:04 pm

In post 1319, Klingoncelt wrote:So far
Fire
Banana
Klingon

have all claimed VT. That's 1 claim too many.

Duppin and Bacde both claimed Mason. That's impossible. Both are Scum.

Gale and Sam need to claim now.

Gale is PR or scum, not necessarily PR

Firebringer · Post Post #1330 (ISO) » Thu Sep 03, 2015 9:59 pm

These are possibilites:
Theres 3 PR total in game: Sala was one.
That means two more.
I doubt that is filled by masons, because those are relatively useless PRs.
I went to look at other completed normal games and couldn't find any with Masons were all that was given was 2 masons and 1 other role.
If this is true though there would be 2 VTs so we still have one VT liar.

If there is a mason, we could have 4 PRs total:
2 Masons and 2 other roles. So sala covers one and we have another.
That however means I am the real VT and no other VTs.
So I am doubting mason claims right now.

duppin · Post Post #1331 (ISO) » Thu Sep 03, 2015 10:51 pm

This is very amusing.

In post 1253, BananaCucho wrote:Me, you, and Kling are town

Once SamX comes along we got this. Vote Duppin

So Banana just confirmed their team. I believe Firebringer is the town between SamX and him, not entirely sure though. SamX vote yesterday (rng) was terrible and very suspicious, so yeah. Doesn't matter, whoever is the town between you guys need to focus.

Anyway, Banana and Kling you need to realise you lost though. You lost the game yesterday it should be fairly obvious why.

This was the train on Kling: Me, Bacde, Gale and Sala
This was the train on Sala: Banana, Kling, Firebringer and SamX

Banana is proposing that all scum tried to buddy with a town while the rest of the town was trying to lynch him. Come on now.
That's the worst thing Banana has said in this game to be honest. (and that says something).

I honestly thought Banana was just confused town yesterday but it's fairly obvious she is not at this point.

All it takes is a simple ISO on any of us. Banana claims Kling is the only one with reason this game, um sure, check her ISO. Her case on me is OMGUS, her switching her vote to Ciara is a big scum tell as well.
Yesterday your scum team was Sala, me and Gale, but now that Sala has flipped town you don't even reconsider and just straight out push the same. That's some very questionable play, I don't understand why'd you be so desperate. Banana was a townread of mine, so I'd actually say this was a pretty bad play, when you could've won it. Oh well.

Me and Bacde are masons and it should be fairly obvious if you simply ISO us (Which you claimed you would, yet you did not).
We also tried to soft it in one of us died so the other one could claim:

In post 559, duppin wrote:
In post 556, Klingoncelt wrote:What I want to know is, why did Scum kill TheWorst?

I've got some ISOing to do.

Implying you don't know why you killed him.

So anyway, how do you guys feel about a Ciara train today?[

Notice the [ at the end?

In post 568, Bacde wrote:]Salamence your reads are bad broseph

Today we Lynch either Ciara or Kling, I'm tired of being ignored

Also who is Yukari? Sounds like a misdirection from Kling and Ciara

Which is why he did ]

VOTE: Kling

SamX and Firebringer, whoever is the town between you need to get a grip. If you seriously do not know who the scum is now based on yesterday, I can't help you. It should be obvious Kling is the lynch today.

duppin · Post Post #1332 (ISO) » Thu Sep 03, 2015 10:56 pm

In post 1326, BananaCucho wrote:
In post 1322, Klingoncelt wrote:
In post 1317, BananaCucho wrote:
In post 1315, Klingoncelt wrote:Correction:

There are 2 VT's, 2 PRs and 3 Scums left.

Then you or Fire is lying if that's the case

Is that set in stone? Or a rough template that usually is followed?

The set in stone version is the Matrix 6 template, used in Newbie games. It's almost certainly what's going on here.

What??? That doesn't make sense. Salamance's role didn't fit there

http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Matrix6

This one?

Um, you do realise that setup is for 9 players.

duppin · Post Post #1333 (ISO) » Thu Sep 03, 2015 10:59 pm

In post 1319, Klingoncelt wrote:So far
Fire
Banana
Klingon

have all claimed VT. That's 1 claim too many.

Duppin and Bacde both claimed Mason. That's impossible. Both are Scum.

Gale and Sam need to claim now.

So you basically admit there is at least one scum between you, Fire and Banana.
You probably shouldn't have said that.

duppin · Post Post #1334 (ISO) » Thu Sep 03, 2015 11:07 pm

In post 1322, Klingoncelt wrote:
In post 1317, BananaCucho wrote:
In post 1315, Klingoncelt wrote:Correction:

There are 2 VT's, 2 PRs and 3 Scums left.

Then you or Fire is lying if that's the case

Is that set in stone? Or a rough template that usually is followed?

The set in stone version is the Matrix 6 template, used in Newbie games. It's almost certainly what's going on here.

Nice try, unfortunately it is not true.

In post 0, Not_Mafia wrote:
Welcome to
Mini Normal 1705

Set-up made using Normal Guidelines. Roles were randomised using this.

duppin · Post Post #1335 (ISO) » Thu Sep 03, 2015 11:10 pm

In post 1330, Firebringer wrote:These are possibilites:
Theres 3 PR total in game: Sala was one.
That means two more.
I doubt that is filled by masons, because those are relatively useless PRs.
I went to look at other completed normal games and couldn't find any with Masons were all that was given was 2 masons and 1 other role.
If this is true though there would be 2 VTs so we still have one VT liar.

If there is a mason, we could have 4 PRs total:
2 Masons and 2 other roles. So sala covers one and we have another.
That however means I am the real VT and no other VTs.
So I am doubting mason claims right now.

Flawed logic.
In both scenarios, you know one of the VT claims are lying. You, Banana and Kling are the VT claims.
If you are VT, you know at least one of them is lying. This pretty much confirms the other one as scum as well.

Bacde · Post Post #1336 (ISO) » Fri Sep 04, 2015 2:27 am

Lmao banana is scum, he revoted before the end of the massclaim

Bacde · Post Post #1337 (ISO) » Fri Sep 04, 2015 2:29 am

In post 1330, Firebringer wrote:These are possibilites:
Theres 3 PR total in game: Sala was one.
That means two more.
I doubt that is filled by masons, because those are relatively useless PRs.
I went to look at other completed normal games and couldn't find any with Masons were all that was given was 2 masons and 1 other role.
If this is true though there would be 2 VTs so we still have one VT liar.

If there is a mason, we could have 4 PRs total:
2 Masons and 2 other roles. So sala covers one and we have another.
That however means I am the real VT and no other VTs.
So I am doubting mason claims right now.

So you think its more likely that we have just 1 PR because you don't believe the Mason claim?

Don't vote today because after everyone claims I'll explain why masons make perfect sense

Bacde · Post Post #1338 (ISO) » Fri Sep 04, 2015 2:30 am

I don't understand why banana isn't even considering listening to salamence after mislynching him

Bacde · Post Post #1339 (ISO) » Fri Sep 04, 2015 2:34 am

You would have to be a complete moron to be actually voting a mason claim tight now when there are no other PR claims

Bacde · Post Post #1340 (ISO) » Fri Sep 04, 2015 2:50 am

In post 1322, Klingoncelt wrote:
In post 1317, BananaCucho wrote:
In post 1315, Klingoncelt wrote:Correction:

There are 2 VT's, 2 PRs and 3 Scums left.

Then you or Fire is lying if that's the case

Is that set in stone? Or a rough template that usually is followed?

The set in stone version is the Matrix 6 template, used in Newbie games. It's almost certainly what's going on here.

Why is this game matrix6? It's clearly not, so why do you think this?

Anyone voting for a mason claim before we even have any other PR claims is scum

BananaCucho · Post Post #1341 (ISO) » Fri Sep 04, 2015 2:51 am

In post 1332, duppin wrote:
In post 1326, BananaCucho wrote:
In post 1322, Klingoncelt wrote:
In post 1317, BananaCucho wrote:
In post 1315, Klingoncelt wrote:Correction:

There are 2 VT's, 2 PRs and 3 Scums left.

Then you or Fire is lying if that's the case

Is that set in stone? Or a rough template that usually is followed?

The set in stone version is the Matrix 6 template, used in Newbie games. It's almost certainly what's going on here.

What??? That doesn't make sense. Salamance's role didn't fit there

http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Matrix6

This one?

Um, you do realise that setup is for 9 players.

Are you trying to tell me Kling is intentionally lying to me about the setup?

BananaCucho · Post Post #1342 (ISO) » Fri Sep 04, 2015 2:54 am

I don't know Kling that well but I don't see Kling misleading in that type of way

If mason claim makes 0 sense then sorry its a bad claim that is easily faked as Mafia

That [ ] thing was so unnoticeable that if we had lynched one of you earlier and you flipped scum no one would notice that. Easily faked as mafia.

Bacde · Post Post #1343 (ISO) » Fri Sep 04, 2015 2:55 am

Kling you realize there is no town rolecop in matrix6 right?

Bacde · Post Post #1344 (ISO) » Fri Sep 04, 2015 2:56 am

Banana if you show me there is a town rolecop in matrix6 maybe I won't make fun of you for just saying "there is no chance of there being a mason" and believing that as fact

Bacde · Post Post #1345 (ISO) » Fri Sep 04, 2015 2:57 am

In post 1342, BananaCucho wrote:I don't know Kling that well but I don't see Kling misleading in that type of way

If mason claim makes 0 sense then sorry its a bad claim that is easily faked as Mafia

That [ ] thing was so unnoticeable that if we had lynched one of you earlier and you flipped scum no one would notice that. Easily faked as mafia.

Lmao

"I don't scumread Kling for personal reasons he just seems like a really great guy who wouldn't do that"

Bacde · Post Post #1346 (ISO) » Fri Sep 04, 2015 2:59 am

Lmao anaba at least pretend you are town and unvote til the end of the massclaim

duppin · Post Post #1347 (ISO) » Fri Sep 04, 2015 3:00 am

In post 1342, BananaCucho wrote:I don't know Kling that well but I don't see Kling misleading in that type of way

If mason claim makes 0 sense then sorry its a bad claim that is easily faked as Mafia

That [ ] thing was so unnoticeable that if we had lynched one of you earlier and you flipped scum no one would notice that. Easily faked as mafia.

What?

It was simply meant to prove our role in case one of us died, and a) scum tried to fake claim mason (since one of us would've been revealed then) or b) you were going to lynch one of us in a lylo situation. It was meant to be used by us, not you guys.

There is no way Kling is not mafia now. It is simple logic.

You have 3 VT claims. (You, Fire and Kling)
At least

one

of you is lying, which means there is at least one mafia between you. The game is over at this point, please just vote Kling already so we can get on with it.

Bacde · Post Post #1348 (ISO) » Fri Sep 04, 2015 3:02 am

Fire who do you think is more likely scum, the guys trying to rush the vote on lylo or the two mason claims when there are literally no other PRs

Are you telling me what salamence was a rolecop but there were NO PRs for him to find?

BananaCucho · Post Post #1349 (ISO) » Fri Sep 04, 2015 3:23 am

In post 1346, Bacde wrote:Lmao anaba at least pretend you are town and unvote til the end of the massclaim

You are scum reading me for voting and not unvoting even though Duppin is doing the SAME THING oh but you can "confirm" he's a mason

You do realize what situation you're putting me in right? You two and Kling are obviously not aligned. So if I vote the wrong way today we lose.

If I vote Duppin and the mason claim is false, I vote you and that's two scum in one. If Duppin is town we lose now.

If I vote Kling and he flips scum, then I am lynched tomorrow anyway and we lose anyway in another LYLO. If I vote Kling and Kling is town then we lose now.

If I vote Duppin at least there's a chance of saving the game from my viewpoint