Mini 1705: Game Over

[BananaCucho]

Also notice that people have come and gone and there's been no scum speedlynch of Duppin at all

[BananaCucho]

I don't know Kling that well but I don't see Kling misleading in that type of way

If mason claim makes 0 sense then sorry its a bad claim that is easily faked as Mafia

That [ ] thing was so unnoticeable that if we had lynched one of you earlier and you flipped scum no one would notice that. Easily faked as mafia.

What?

It was simply meant to prove our role in case one of us died, and a) scum tried to fake claim mason (since one of us would've been revealed then) or b) you were going to lynch one of us in a lylo situation. It was meant to be used by us, not you guys.

There is no way Kling is not mafia now. It is simple logic.

You have 3 VT claims. (You, Fire and Kling)
At least

one

of you is lying, which means there is at least one mafia between you. The game is over at this point, please

just vote Kling already

so we can get on with it.

Fire who do you think is more likely scum,

the guys trying to rush the vote on lylo

or the two mason claims when there are literally no other PRs

Are you telling me what salamence was a rolecop but there were NO PRs for him to find?

See the contradiction Fire? We are not rushing a vote any faster on Duppin than they are on Kling.

[BananaCucho]

Correction:

There are 2 VT's, 2 PRs and 3 Scums left.

Then you or Fire is lying if that's the case

Is that set in stone? Or a rough template that usually is followed?

The set in stone version is the Matrix 6 template, used in Newbie games. It's almost certainly what's going on here.

What??? That doesn't make sense. Salamance's role didn't fit there

http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Matrix6

This one?

Um, you do realise that setup is for 9 players.

Lying about your role is scummy. Lying about the setup is borderline cheating in my book, that's what I meant by that.

[duppin]

I am not lying, what are you talking about? That setup is for 9 players, check it.

Oh and we are speedlynching because Kling is pretty much confirmed scum.

[BananaCucho]

What I meant is that Kling is lying about the setup if you guys are telling the truth

Question: Kling said that the setup is the newbie matrix like day 2. Why didn't you guys correct that then if its incorrect? I was playing under that assumption until Sal flipped which confused the hell out of me

[duppin]

Lmao anaba at least pretend you are town and unvote til the end of the massclaim

You are scum reading me for voting and not unvoting even though Duppin is doing the SAME THING oh but you can "confirm" he's a mason

You do realize what situation you're putting me in right? You two and Kling are obviously not aligned. So if I vote the wrong way today we lose.

If I vote Duppin and the mason claim is false, I vote you and that's two scum in one. If Duppin is town we lose now.

If I vote Kling and he flips scum, then I am lynched tomorrow anyway and we lose anyway in another LYLO. If I vote Kling and Kling is town then we lose now.

If I vote Duppin at least there's a chance of saving the game from my viewpoint

If you are town, you lost the game for us. Simple as that.

There is no guarantee we are going to lynch you tomorrow, but you are hard aligning with scum, you have a town read based on her for no reason at all, you fail to understand simple logic. (There is AT LEAST one scum between you, Kling and Fire. That is confirmed), yet you do not wish to pursue any of those.
Yeah, I'd say you look very scummy at the moment.

[duppin]

What I meant is that Kling is lying about the setup if you guys are telling the truth

Question: Kling said that the setup is the newbie matrix like day 2. Why didn't you guys correct that then if its incorrect? I was playing under that assumption until Sal flipped which confused the hell out of me

I haven't seen it. What post?

[BananaCucho]

UNVOTE: Kling

[BananaCucho]

Let me find it

[BananaCucho]

Whoops UNVOTE: Duppin
VOTE: Kling

[BananaCucho]

Sidebar: How are roles set up in this mini? Are they private and random? o-o

It looks like the standard Matrix 6 setup:

http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Matrix6


Roles are usually randomized here.

[BananaCucho]

That's harsh Duppin especially given that this could have been avoided day fucking two

[duppin]

I see. I didn't notice that post.

I am sorry if that came across as rude, didn't mean to.

[BananaCucho]

Claiming I lost the game for you when this is my first normal game and I've been acting under the assumption the roles are similar to the newbie game I played and Kling said that's how it is

Sure yeah that's all me, asshole.

[Bacde]

My very first post of the game was a mason soft btw

[duppin]

Um, I don't mind admitting I've lost games for town before.
I mean obviously you aren't the only reason for town losing, but if you align with scum in lylo as town, you do lose the game for town. Sure you can turn it around and blame us for looking scummy, but in this particular case we know for a fact that there is at least one scum between Firebringer, you and Kling, which pretty much confirms me and Bacde as town as well, so yeah.

It is obviously not personal.

[BananaCucho]

K well obviously Kling has been misleading me all game ugh

[duppin]

Yeah seems like it.

I want to believe you are town and I had a town read on you for most of the game. We should probably lynch between SamX and Firebringer tomorrow.
Final three will probably be you, fire/sam and Gale. I think Gale is town, but I'd like him to claim today.

[Bacde]

I lose games all the time its no big deal banana

[Bacde]

SamX im really upset with you for using a RNG to vote on day 3 of a game btw

[BananaCucho]

SamX im really upset with you for using a RNG to vote on day 3 of a game btw

At least he didn't self hammer.

[duppin]

Well considering SamX is most likely scum, it probably wasn't RNG

[Bacde]

True

[Bacde]

SamX im really upset with you for using a RNG to vote on day 3 of a game btw

At least he didn't self hammer.

No, a self hammer is better than a RNG vote because at least a self hammer is game related

[BananaCucho]

This is for Salamence.

VOTE: Klingoncelt

In his memory.

Also I want the medal for Least Valuable Player this game, I am a horrible town player this game.

You were right Fire, I'm sorry. I still have a lot to learn about the site, and forum mafia in general :-/