Open 609: Pick Your Poison (Game Over)

Alchemist21 · Post Post #125 (ISO) » Tue Sep 08, 2015 6:31 am

Vedith seems to be standing up for Jormvan quite a bit actually.

Vedith · Post Post #126 (ISO) » Tue Sep 08, 2015 6:34 am

Oh snap, I was hoping you wouldn't notice.

So, do you agree with the Scumlean reason from sparrow?

Alchemist21 · Post Post #127 (ISO) » Tue Sep 08, 2015 6:40 am

No. Though there is a more confident Jormvan in the other game, I think the explanation from Jormvan can also reasonably come from Town, so overall I have the slot as null for now.

Your posts towards Jormvan give me some concern you may be buddying him.

Lizard_Buttock · Post Post #128 (ISO) » Tue Sep 08, 2015 6:43 am

Hi panther. We finally have someone I have some meta on. That's nice.
Since Alch looks like a pretty townish guy I'll UNVOTE: Alchemist. I generally like to keep my vote blank near the start of the game and let everyone speak. With that being said, Here are my top scumreads:
Ika, whose posts can be summed up with *hops on easy wagon* TOWNBLOCK PARTY! Plus 66 seems a bit suspect.
Vedith, who seems to be trying to buddy up with Joram and did that classic reverse psychology move in 58 like that ever works.
joram, who hasn't stopped the 'I'm a huge noob' posts and hasn't done much else
Panther, who pushed my lynch in newbie 1628 (j/k, you're null)
Alch I think is probably town, everyone else is null.

Vedith · Post Post #129 (ISO) » Tue Sep 08, 2015 6:46 am

You should have more than just some concern. However, making that statement without any questions or without any follow up, what are you trying to gain?

PantherPunt · Post Post #130 (ISO) » Tue Sep 08, 2015 6:47 am

So I've only played a few games in total, but have really tried to start honing my ability to tone-read. Its helpful when we are this early in a game, as there isn't much to analyze.

So, I have a good feeling about Flow, Max, and Bella being town to start the game out.

I have a bad feeling about Alchemist, Varian, and TTH.

And I just skimmed Joraman's completed newb game. If I played in that game, I would have no confidence in my reads either. Seems genuine enough to me. I'll go town for him too.
Who was it that said they looked into him and he didn't have any completed games? That will need more explaining than "didn't count marathons" or whatever it said.

PantherPunt · Post Post #131 (ISO) » Tue Sep 08, 2015 6:48 am

In post 129, Vedith wrote:You should have more than just some concern. However, making that statement without any questions or without any follow up, what are you trying to gain?

scum aren't looking to gain anything. just cast shade and suspcion that they hope others latch onto

VOTE: alchemist

Vedith · Post Post #132 (ISO) » Tue Sep 08, 2015 6:50 am

@Lizard - Arch is town for you because...?
Any particular post?

Nice originality on your reason for me. Glad that wasn't said just before your post.

PantherPunt · Post Post #133 (ISO) » Tue Sep 08, 2015 6:51 am

In post 10, Alchemist21 wrote:Finally! I thought this game would never get here.

VOTE: TellTaleHeart

did this game take an unusually long time to start?

TellTaleHeart · Post Post #134 (ISO) » Tue Sep 08, 2015 6:53 am

Great, someone from Pitt.

Shame the RVS is already over.

TellTaleHeart · Post Post #135 (ISO) » Tue Sep 08, 2015 6:54 am

In post 130, PantherPunt wrote:So, I have a good feeling about Flow, Max, and Bella being town to start the game out.

I have a bad feeling about Alchemist, Varian, and TTH.

I'm going to go out on a limb and say that the IC/SE's from your newbie game were scum.

PantherPunt · Post Post #136 (ISO) » Tue Sep 08, 2015 6:54 am

In post 79, TellTaleHeart wrote::S

Bella, why are you being super weird?

In post 80, Lizard_Buttock wrote:@tth: Define 'Super weird'.

In post 81, Alchemist21 wrote:She's flip-flopping a lot on TTH. Seems weird to me.

Alch - why did you feel the need to step in and answer for TTH here?

PantherPunt · Post Post #137 (ISO) » Tue Sep 08, 2015 6:55 am

In post 135, TellTaleHeart wrote:
In post 130, PantherPunt wrote:So, I have a good feeling about Flow, Max, and Bella being town to start the game out.

I have a bad feeling about Alchemist, Varian, and TTH.

I'm going to go out on a limb and say that the IC/SE's from your newbie game were scum.

are you really going out on a limb? tell me about why that's going out on a limb?

Lizard_Buttock · Post Post #138 (ISO) » Tue Sep 08, 2015 6:55 am

@panther's 130: What do you find suspicious about Alchemist? I'm not seeing it.
Also, how did you catch up on this game and skim another and still form proper reads in >25 minutes? I'm jealous.
pedit: @vedith's 132: That was posted just minutes before mine. I didn't see it until the preview and I couldn't be bothered to change it.
Alch seems to be scumhunting perfectly fine and doesn't really catch my attention as scummy. I have a townie feeling on him.

PantherPunt · Post Post #139 (ISO) » Tue Sep 08, 2015 6:56 am

In post 86, TellTaleHeart wrote:
In post 63, Alchemist21 wrote:VOTE: JoramvanVught

Unless I get some concrete proof he makes these kinds of commets as Town, I think this is the most likely to turn up scum atm.

Did a little stalking on this and he doesn't have any completed games and I'm working from the assumption that he's a newbie. What, specifically, about Joram is bothersome to you?

and can you tell me about how everyone else saw Joramvan's newbie game and you didn't? just kinda weird....

Vedith · Post Post #140 (ISO) » Tue Sep 08, 2015 6:57 am

In post 138, Lizard_Buttock wrote:pedit: @vedith's 132: That was posted just minutes before mine. I didn't see it until the preview and I couldn't be bothered to change it.

That's just lazy.

PantherPunt · Post Post #141 (ISO) » Tue Sep 08, 2015 6:58 am

In post 138, Lizard_Buttock wrote:@panther's 130: What do you find suspicious about Alchemist? I'm not seeing it.
Also, how did you catch up on this game and skim another and still form proper reads in >25 minutes? I'm jealous.
pedit: @vedith's 132: That was posted just minutes before mine. I didn't see it until the preview and I couldn't be bothered to change it.
Alch seems to be scumhunting perfectly fine and doesn't really catch my attention as scummy. I have a townie feeling on him.

see my posts since. reading a 2nd time and calling up quotes now.

I got better than I was when we played. played a 32 player and an 85 (role madness/mishmash) offsite since with players from many different communities. opened my eyes a bit.

TellTaleHeart · Post Post #142 (ISO) » Tue Sep 08, 2015 6:58 am

You're scum reading a set of people with very similar writing/playing styles. I wouldn't go so far as to say we've been "discussion leaders" but the people you named definitely are more... involved? I can't really find the right word right now. :S

I think it's pretty analogous to the role an SE or IC would fill in a newbie game, thus my guess.

TellTaleHeart · Post Post #143 (ISO) » Tue Sep 08, 2015 7:00 am

X|
You're now the second person to miss it, Panther. Please read.

In post 94, TellTaleHeart wrote:X/

I saw "Day 5" in the thread title and assumed it was still ongoing...

It is way too late at night for me to be doing this.

Alchemist21 · Post Post #144 (ISO) » Tue Sep 08, 2015 7:01 am

In post 129, Vedith wrote:You should have more than just some concern. However, making that statement without any questions or without any follow up, what are you trying to gain?

I wanted to see how you would react to the accusation, since I don't know if your buddying was Town or scum motivated.

In post 133, PantherPunt wrote:
In post 10, Alchemist21 wrote:Finally! I thought this game would never get here.

VOTE: TellTaleHeart

did this game take an unusually long time to start?

I /in'd on August 18, and it was September before the game started. It's like the Open queue hit a brick wall around mid-August. I was a little worried they would even scrap the game entirely.

In post 136, PantherPunt wrote:
In post 79, TellTaleHeart wrote::S

Bella, why are you being super weird?

In post 80, Lizard_Buttock wrote:@tth: Define 'Super weird'.

In post 81, Alchemist21 wrote:She's flip-flopping a lot on TTH. Seems weird to me.

Alch - why did you feel the need to step in and answer for TTH here?

All of us who have played with Bella are seeing her play as odd. I don't think "super weird" really needed a concrete definition because it was pretty clear with how her stance on TTH just 180'd out of nowhere.

PantherPunt · Post Post #145 (ISO) » Tue Sep 08, 2015 7:01 am

In post 143, TellTaleHeart wrote:X|
You're now the second person to miss it, Panther. Please read.

In post 94, TellTaleHeart wrote:X/

I saw "Day 5" in the thread title and assumed it was still ongoing...

It is way too late at night for me to be doing this.

fair enough. I'll null that point for now. So now that you've seen his newbie game, what do you think of him?

Alchemist21 · Post Post #146 (ISO) » Tue Sep 08, 2015 7:03 am

In post 141, PantherPunt wrote:
In post 138, Lizard_Buttock wrote:@panther's 130: What do you find suspicious about Alchemist? I'm not seeing it.
Also, how did you catch up on this game and skim another and still form proper reads in >25 minutes? I'm jealous.
pedit: @vedith's 132: That was posted just minutes before mine. I didn't see it until the preview and I couldn't be bothered to change it.
Alch seems to be scumhunting perfectly fine and doesn't really catch my attention as scummy. I have a townie feeling on him.

see my posts since. reading a 2nd time and calling up quotes now.

I got better than I was when we played. played a 32 player and an 85 (role madness/mishmash) offsite since with players from many different communities. opened my eyes a bit.

How do you even manage to keep up with games that big?

PantherPunt · Post Post #147 (ISO) » Tue Sep 08, 2015 7:04 am

In post 142, TellTaleHeart wrote:You're scum reading a set of people with very similar writing/playing styles. I wouldn't go so far as to say we've been "discussion leaders" but the people you named definitely are more... involved? I can't really find the right word right now. :S

I think it's pretty analogous to the role an SE or IC would fill in a newbie game, thus my guess.

I don't understand at all. Why would people who are "involved" with similar "writing/playing styles" remind me of an SE/IC?

You are correlating your play style and involvement with experience? As a general rule?

Firebringer · Post Post #148 (ISO) » Tue Sep 08, 2015 7:05 am

I have played 30 player games, they are by far the worst experience you can possibly imagine.

The one I played we had a player spam about nearly a 1000 posts in the first day. By days end I believe the thread was already at 100+ pages. It was annoying to play in.

Firebringer · Post Post #149 (ISO) » Tue Sep 08, 2015 7:07 am

In post 131, PantherPunt wrote:
In post 129, Vedith wrote:You should have more than just some concern. However, making that statement without any questions or without any follow up, what are you trying to gain?

scum aren't looking to gain anything. just cast shade and suspcion that they hope others latch onto

VOTE: alchemist

You must pay for voting Alchemist!!!
VOTE: PantherPunt
Take your vote of Alchemist, he is town!