NY 188: Delicious Mafia II (Post-game chatter)

[Fro99er]

If she's an odd night vig, why haven't there been three kills other than on the first night?

She killed Boon N1, Tex N3.

[Fro99er]

There were 2 kills N2 because our even notice get vig was dead so scum made two kills.

[Fro99er]

I'm guessing N3 someone was protected by Tex (likely Fire was protected as cop). Also possible one scum targeted Tex with Anna vigging tex, or both scum targeted Ika.

[Lapsa]

you surely are quite magical, Fro99er

[Fro99er]

you surely are quite magical, Fro99er

Thanks! <3

[Lapsa]

you are welcome

[Skybird]

VOTE: Mahonster

I feel pretty confident this is scum.

[Mahonster]

Ugh. Sky too.
At least you're being consistent.

[goodmorning]

Anna's ocnftown,

Since when?

Since she claimed vig to me and Sky and suddenly BOTH sky and town suddenly stopped wanting to lynch Anna. It's been quite obvious and I've been hinting we still have an odd night vig. She's not getting lynched today, and this will almost surely be her last odd night vig, so I don't mind outing it now. We know she'll get her kill tonight.

This is actually helpful, albeit diminishes the likelihood of Scum crosskills. Much more helpful than just randomly calling people confTown.

Both Sky and Town?

@gm why did your read of me go from "super town" to "possible scum"? My posts haven't changed much content wise, albeit the snark has been diminished.

Before, you were into conversations about people. Now, you're more into conversations about setup.

Fucked up quote there. GM - tell me why Mah can be Red's buddy. Specific examples.

And who would be his other werewolf buddy assuming 3 werewolf?

Tell me why he can't. You keep asserting that it's not possible, but I don't see any reasons why not.

Like I said, possibly Nos. Could be Lapsa, but like I said, I find myself trusting Lapsa.
Not Kop.

[Fro99er]

Both Sky and Town?

sky and me

was a phone post autocorrect somehow

[Fro99er]

Tell me why he can't. You keep asserting that it's not possible, but I don't see any reasons why not.

Easy. And your refusal to give reasons is because

you know you have no good ones

(scum motivation to not give reasons is because you don't have one), you just think there isn't a reason not to assume Mah and Red can't be buddies, which is bullshit and scummy of you to take that attitude. It shows you either aren't paying attention, or not willing to do the work to show something OBVIOUS. Here's the reason...

Up to this post:

well, I made it through post 363, and I'm pretty sure that post confirms mahonster and red are not scum together. But I do think one of the two is scum based off that post.

We could leash T S O, lynch red and have T S O vig Mahonster to guarantee we hit scum, then get T S O when the time is right. This gives us two scum dead for sure, and possibly three if we're somehow in SK+scum+scum (like 2-2-1).

Or we could just lynch claimed SK, but that only guarantees us one dead anti-town.

I wanted TSO dead. Then I realized if we leashed TSO, we could guarantee a scum hit by lynching Red and having TSO shoot Mahonster. Instead, TSO was not willing to shoot Mahonster (probably his buddy). I also note that both GM and Kop did not want to vote Red.

It makes no sense for Mah to have wanted Red dead and TSO alive if Mah was Red's werewolf buddy, when TSO had a guilty on him.


I'm almost certain its

Mafia: TSO (goon), Ozgin (JOAT), Mah (godfather)
Wolves: GM (goon), Kop (neighborizer), Red (ascetic)

that perfectly balances out a town with an even/odd night vig, a doctor, a cop, a universal backup (turned doc), and a neighborhood inspector.


So everyone should be voting GM, because there is ZERO town motivation behind her posts, and no willingness to scum hunt other than being difficult with me.

[Fro99er]

@Mod, can we get a prod for Kop who has conveniently disappeared for 3.5 days now?

[Skybird]

I'm willing to sheep Frogger right now.

UNVOTE:

VOTE: GoodMorning

[goodmorning]

Why is it that all of Frogger's 'gm is scum' posts assume that I'm a blatantly transparent idiot as Scum?

p l e a s e.

[Aeronaut]

vc 5.7

VoteCount 5.7

With 8 alive it's 5 to lynch!

Mod Notes:

Prodding Kop. This is his last prod. If he needs to be prodded again, I'll replace him.
Deadline is Thursday!

Skybird -

Kop -

Nosferatu -

Lapsa -

Mahonster -

Annadog40

(L-4)

Fro99er -

Annadog40 -

Goodmorning -

Fro99er, Mahonster, Skybird

(L-2)

Not Voting

-

Kop, Goodmorning, Lapsa, Nosferatu

Food Queue -

Lutafisk, egg rolls, smoked salmon, coconut shrimp, whole lobster

Day 5 ends in (expired on 2015-09-17 15:40:32)

[Fro99er]

Food queue: pierogies

[Mahonster]

Kop is neighborizer right?
Can someone explain to me why it's more logical for him as scum to invite town rather than scum in order to have day chat?
Even if he started with another town, he could simply just kill of the town and neighborize his buddies. There would be plenty of opportunity to invite a buddy D1 anyway.

[goodmorning]

Because that would be suspicious, maybe?

[Nosferatu]

Well naturally he just wouldn't tell anyone and his scum buddies don't out the neighborhood. They just claim non neighbor and no one ever knows who was in it.

[goodmorning]

but then frogger's argument about towncred is invalid

[Mahonster]

Hmmm.
Frogger's placement of me being a on the mafia team seem really convenient doesn't it.
Not dealing with me yet, waiting for werewolf flip so that I'm thrown into suspicion as mafia next.
He's already thought about how Fire probably investigated me, so he put me as godfather.
HHMMMMMMMMMMmmmmmMMMmmMmmmmmmmm...

[Fro99er]

It's not only that. It's your insistence on a Red lynch when TSO had a guilty and you not being on the Ozgin wagon.

You are the most likely mafia candidate, and a godfather balances out the ascetic. You were all too happy to point out Fire's crumbs that he investigated you.

[Mahonster]

It's not only that. It's your insistence on a Red lynch when TSO had a guilty and you not being on the Ozgin wagon.

You are the most likely mafia candidate, and a godfather balances out the ascetic. You were all too happy to point out Fire's crumbs that he investigated you.

Ok those are all pretty viable points that I could definitely see where you're coming from on this, but no.
The days of TSO and Ozgin lynch lasted all of ten seconds each. I purposefully didn't vote them because I didn't want the day to end yet because you know, discussion is good.
But yeahhhhh that looks bad doesn't it.
And I don't see your point of godfather balancing out Ascetic? How?

Alright so town and werewolves need to team up to lynch the last mafia bc I don't want to deal with this suspicion again.

[Fro99er]

And I don't see your point of godfather balancing out Ascetic? How?

They are both immune to cop investigation

[Fro99er]

[Neighborizer] definitely wouldn't balance as a Scum role in this game, because there's no role so comparatively weak for it to balance with on the other team.

yes, it balanced the JOAT (1 shot seer 1 shot vanilla cop) that Oz has

In refraction, wolf Neighborizer was balanced by mafia vanilla cop