NY 189 - Flower Viewing Festival [~fin~]

[Firebringer]

What do I have to explain? Everyone of Shiro posts were pretty much crap or repeating what someone else said, also just posts about flowers throughout the ISO, it was just dull and useless.

How was Shiro town? Besides the fact the flip obviously says Shiro was lol.

[AxleGreaser]

What do I have to explain? Everyone of Shiro posts were pretty much crap or repeating what someone else said, also just posts about flowers throughout the ISO, it was just dull and useless.

How was Shiro town? Besides the fact the flip obviously says Shiro was lol.

Which is kind of the point how did you come to post reads post indicating a flipped player was scum?

[AxleGreaser]

EBWOP clarity

What do I have to explain? Everyone of Shiro posts were pretty much crap or repeating what someone else said, also just posts about flowers throughout the ISO, it was just dull and useless.

How was Shiro town? Besides the fact the flip obviously says Shiro was lol.

Which is kind of the point how did you come to post reads post indicating a flipped

town

player(

Shiro

) was

scum

?

[Echo Echo]

Echo.

[Firebringer]

Which is kind of the point how did you come to post reads post indicating a flipped player was scum?

I had it in my notes and didn't bother editing it out during day start.

[pieguyn]

votecount 4.8

Bearbert D (3) - Firebringer, Davsto, Fro99er

Fro99er (2) - Shazam, AxleGreaser
Davsto (1) - Echo Echo
Shazam (1) - Ricastle
Firebringer (1) - Sakura Hana

Not voting (4) - Spiffeh, ika, Bearbert D, Vedith

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch. Deadline is September 15, 20:20 GMT-7 or in (expired on 2015-09-15 20:20:00).

[pieguyn]

ika has been prodded.

[ika]

im not even reading now

[Firebringer]

im not even reading now

Classic Ika.

[ika]

i want someone to make an arugment on why pisskop, AS SCUM, would put his buddy to l-1, KNOWING FULL WELL I AM IN THE GAME AND WOULD HAMMER

[AxleGreaser]

Which is kind of the point how did you come to post reads post indicating a flipped player was scum?

I had it in my notes and didn't bother editing it out during day start.

What strikes me as odd, is that you seem to have stopped reading taking notes, or updating you reads, right about the time you started playing the game.

2432 Ends at " Ika eventually gets bored and hammers, yeah. I am surprised he waited this long, could be scum indications."

You replaced in at 1840 your detailed notes stop at 1828

It looks to me like you stopped trying to figure the game out.

[AxleGreaser]

@Town

I can see we are going to need to eventually consolidate to make scum lynch happen.
Frogger Firebringer and Davsto are all viable for me.

Which by implication will mean a PissKop/Bearbert D lynch smells funny.
Even apart from my reads thinking it the worst lynch.

[Davsto]

votecount 4.3

pisskop (6) - Firebringer, Echo Echo, AxleGreaser, Fro99er, Salamence20, pisskop

Firebringer (2) - Shazam, Sakura Hana
Fro99er (1) - Ricastle

Not voting (3) - Spiffeh, ika, Davsto

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch. Deadline is September 15, 20:20 GMT-7 or in (expired on 2015-09-15 20:20:00).

Sakura Hana is V/LA until September 11.

votecount 4.6

Fro99er (2) - Shazam, AxleGreaser
pisskop (2) - Firebringer, Davsto
Davsto (2) - pisskop, Echo Echo
AxleGreaser (2) - Salamence20, Fro99er

Firebringer (1) - Sakura Hana
Shazam (1) - Ricastle

Not voting (2) - Spiffeh, ika

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch. Deadline is September 15, 20:20 GMT-7 or in (expired on 2015-09-15 20:20:00).

So between these two posts, 3 people (not including pisskop) jumped off the pisskop wagon. Why? Pisskop's behaviour hadn't changed. I'm seeing some of the unvotes - particularly Echo Echo's, as jumping off the bussing wagon.

[AxleGreaser]

So between these two posts, 3 people (not including pisskop) jumped off the pisskop wagon. Why? Pisskop's behaviour hadn't changed. I'm seeing some of the unvotes - particularly Echo Echo's, as jumping off the bussing wagon.

Why Echo echo?

Some of the unvotes implies more than 1 but there are only three.
Which other votes and why?

[Davsto]

Yes, pisskop is going to flip Cop... Very interesting.

Sorry, it's spelled "kop", not "cop".

VOTE: dave

You missed your chance. Don't hammer then.

Because of this.

Firstly, this comes literally 5 minutes after pisskop unvoted himself and then voted me.

Second, "You missed your chance" sounds a lot like scum taunting a townie that they didn't get to hammer a scum to me.

Together, those two things make it feel quite artificial, almost organised.

Now the others are you and Fro99er, you less so because you took a while to change targets, which felt natural, but Fro99er's also came soon after, and had pretty naff reasoning.

VOTE: davsto

the timing of that hop back on pisskop is terrible. Now that two people (well, one plus pisskop himself) moved off pisskop, you jump on. Terrible terrible. Like you were "afraid" to hammer without a claim in case he flipped cop (kop's not gonna be a cop given what we've seen flip/had claimed so far), but actually you're probably just rolefishing.

[AxleGreaser]

Second, "You missed your chance" sounds a lot like scum taunting a townie that they didn't get to hammer a scum to me.

What have you done to try and find out if your theory has merit or if there is some other explanation?

How do you explain Echo Echo and the tn wagon?

[Davsto]

What have you done to try and find out if your theory has merit or if there is some other explanation?

Well I've tried to get pisskop lynched to prove he is scum, and then the associative tells will be more than just speculation.

How do you explain Echo Echo and the tn wagon?

[AxleGreaser]

I know I am scum reading fro99er but that point seemed valid to me

but Fro99er's also came soon after, and had pretty naff reasoning.

VOTE: davsto

the timing of that hop back on pisskop is terrible. Now that two people (well, one plus pisskop himself) moved off pisskop, you jump on. Terrible terrible. Like you were "afraid" to hammer without a claim in case he flipped cop (kop's not gonna be a cop given what we've seen flip/had claimed so far), but actually you're probably just rolefishing.

which is why I followed it up at 2442

pedit: You must be very glad to see Echo echo, that really big bus you have in your pocket.

Really I suppose, if you are prepared to just call it bus and move on, then you can read anyone you like as scum.

other than you want it to be a scum bus because then it fits your theory.
Is there anything about Echos and Tns posts that makes you specifically think Echo is the one bussing.

[AxleGreaser]

What have you done to try and find out if your theory has merit or if there is some other explanation?

Well I've tried to get pisskop lynched to prove he is scum, and then the associative tells will be more than just speculation.

Id have thought trying to get more info out of Echo echo

You have question with no answer.

Why? Pisskop's behaviour hadn't changed.

You assume that you dont know of any reason means its scummy one. What if you just dont know.

[Davsto]

The problem is, you worded it as if "sure, Echo may have done those things you read as scummy, but he did a wagon on a scum so he's cleared!" when he could be bussing. If pisskop flips scum (as I really expect), expect me to start going after Echo tomorrow.

You assume that you dont know of any reason means its scummy one. What if you just dont know.

Well Echo did give a reason, just a really really crap one when he voted me.

[AxleGreaser]

You assume that you dont know of any reason means its scummy one. What if you just dont know.

Well Echo did give a reason, just a really really crap one when he voted me.

Well that the reason he gave at that time to vote you.

You claim that nothing changed that could explain his unvote of Pisskop.

and nothing important to your read changed.
How do you know Echo does not have perfectly good explanation of why he unvoted pisskop?

[Davsto]

You assume that you dont know of any reason means its scummy one. What if you just dont know.

Well Echo did give a reason, just a really really crap one when he voted me.

Well that the reason he gave at that time to vote you.

You claim that nothing changed that could explain his unvote of Pisskop.

and nothing important to your read changed.
How do you know Echo does not have perfectly good explanation of why he unvoted pisskop?

Well as far as I care, he should have already given a reason, but whatever.

@Echo, why did you unvote pisskop?

[AxleGreaser]

BTW as people skim and just grab thread sentiment.

@Thread

My current lynch order is Frogger (unfinished business), Fire, Davsto.

Davsto is last perhaps due to my read but also due to

And wont vote Davsto ...

Sakura why not Davsto due to those wagons

[AxleGreaser]

Well as far as I care, he should have already given a reason, but whatever.

What if he did?

Do note thinking to ask such stuff for yourself is working the game out.
Getting spoon fed not so much.

[Davsto]

Also, a note that Shazam has made the least posts of all living players, having less than even some people that have replaced in (Firebringer) or even some dead players (tn, Flubber).

I feel we should talk to him and make him actually participate a decent amount.