Open 611 - Making Friends and Enemies (Game Over!)

[Luna Fox]

@Luna who is your strongest town read?

Heartless

[ika]

@Ika you think scum would go so far to discredit someones playstyle this early?

ya, i can easily see a newbscum doing that

[Heartless]

actually...

i MIGHT have misjudged toothless here.

i'll sleep on it.

[Expedience]

Luna: town, at least she's trying to reverse scumhunt or whatever. I don't have any problems with her setup speculation, as I said earlier.

Killthestory: slight town, gives me more of a tryhard town than tryhard scum vibe. Either way she's accusing people for dumb reasons.

Firebringer: town, I agree with #46 and he's contributing good points to discussion.

Gob: town for now from the few pretty good posts he's made, if he posted more I could be more sure.

Ika: null, I don't agree at all with what he's saying about Luna rolefishing and me being scum accusing everyone for solely playstyle differences but I guess he could just be town with a different perspective to me and an inability to spell coherently.

Heartless: slight scum, #124 is pretty bad. I think a town member wouldn't read literally everyone who has posted all at once so dismissively. Otherwise he hasn't said much of value.

[Firebringer]

/looks in

yep, looks like everyone here is still town

i guess the scumbutts are gonna' be late to the party

Well you should have invited them.

I am never letting you plan out the parties anymore. Always forget something.

[Firebringer]

actually...

i MIGHT have misjudged toothless here.

i'll sleep on it.

Are you talking about me?

Cause I am not toothless, I am a scary/cute dragon.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

V O T E C O U N T

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(4)

Luna Fox -

Heartless, Firebringer, Killthestory, gob

(L-3)

(1)

Expedience -

ika

(L-6)

(8)

Not Voting —

Draynth, Vedith, VeeGee, Luna Fox, Alchemist21, Expedience, ronit, GrayFoxxxx

With 13 alive, it takes 7 votes to lynch

Mod Notes;

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Deadline is in

(expired on 2015-09-29 23:00:00)

[Expedience]

/looks in

yep, looks like everyone here is still town

i guess the scumbutts are gonna' be late to the party

Heartless, can you be more specific as to why are you reading everyone who has posted as town?

I see a similar attitude in 38, and you didn't seem willing to justify yourself with anything other than "gut" when you were called out on it earlier.

VOTE: Heartless

[Luna Fox]

Luna: town, at least she's trying to reverse scumhunt or whatever. I don't have any problems with her setup speculation, as I said earlier.

Killthestory: slight town, gives me more of a tryhard town than tryhard scum vibe. Either way she's accusing people for dumb reasons.

Firebringer: town, I agree with #46 and he's contributing good points to discussion.

Gob: town for now from the few pretty good posts he's made, if he posted more I could be more sure.

Ika: null, I don't agree at all with what he's saying about Luna rolefishing and me being scum accusing everyone for solely playstyle differences but I guess he could just be town with a different perspective to me and an inability to spell coherently.

Heartless: slight scum, #124 is pretty bad. I think a town member wouldn't read literally everyone who has posted all at once so dismissively. Otherwise he hasn't said much of value.

This is the extent of everyone who has posted before you.
Remove Heartless since you're talking about his reads and you have.
Town, slight town, town, town, null.
Isn't this what Heartless is reading with the exception of you having a null in ika?

[Expedience]

This is the extent of everyone who has posted before you.
Remove Heartless since you're talking about his reads and you have.
Town, slight town, town, town, null.
Isn't this what Heartless is reading with the exception of you having a null in ika?

Because I actually gave some basis behind my opinions rather than just "yep, looks like everyone here is still town".

[Killthestory]

Omg now everyone's fucking sheeping me as town. Only Experience actually posted reasons, God dammit.

Expedience, Hon, you don't know what in the fuck I'm actually doing, so don't pretend you do. Okay, Dear, thanks ^-^.

Now Luna, convince me with your most recent posts you're actually town seeing as all I'm seeing is a bit of sheeping and useless reads.

[Killthestory]

k1ll

???????

is there a clique from another site?
you seem like you already know each other

We come from the same site and have played mafia over there while my username was K1llthestory. So that means he knows my meta, yes. However meta is a piece of shit scum hunting tool because I'm changing it and re-applying it to different areas.

[Heartless]

This is the extent of everyone who has posted before you.
Remove Heartless since you're talking about his reads and you have.
Town, slight town, town, town, null.
Isn't this what Heartless is reading with the exception of you having a null in ika?

Because I actually gave some basis behind my opinions rather than just "yep, looks like everyone here is still town".

alright... teaching moment.

expedience, plz complete the following sentence:
"scum are less likely to give reasons with a vote because _________"

[Killthestory]

Um Heartless? No.

Scum can easily do that shit just as easily as I see you do it. It's called fluffing, and it's how I find scum.

[Luna Fox]

Now Luna, convince me with your most recent posts you're actually town seeing as all I'm seeing is a bit of sheeping and useless reads.

It's not my job to try and convince you that i am town.
My job is to play to my playstyle and find scum in my own way (in this case via PoE after townhunting).
If you don't see me as town, then i can't help it, i'm already doing what i can.

[Heartless]

Hi everybody, I'm TTH. ^_^/

I have to make this quick since I have somewhere to be in about 20 minutes, so let's go ahead and dig in.

I'll go ahead and start off by saying that Antihero's assessment of an all-town game start is quite hasty as I've already collected two scum reads in Firebringer and Expedience. Long story short on Firebringer is that he's turning up the charm in terms of tone and staying under the radar in terms of actual reads. In terms of reads, all I see is a "town lean" on ika (Post 42), which is a "no shit, Sherlock" read to anyone who knows him anyway, and little swipes at Luna (Post 66). The rest of the engagement is theory banter or endearing, witty banter. While I concede that he's absolutely adorable and cute, I think Firebringer's scum here.

We've also got Expedience here. Along with our resident crotchety grouch, Killthestory, he takes umbrage with the most innocuous things but unlike her, there's absent (or contradictory) lines of logic running through them. ika's assessment of Post 105 being a "pot shot" is very accurate and the bottom-line assertion that "This feels like a poor excuse which was made up after you were accused, rather than something that is consistent with your playstyle." is hilariously and fantastically baseless. Another absurd assertion: "I think a town member wouldn't read literally everyone who has posted all at once so dismissively." This doesn't take into account that Antihero's been on this site for 6 years and I'd think he would know things to look for and can process things like this without having to show

all

, or any for that matter, his work. The scum read on Antihero would be

more

palatable to me if he didn't say he agreed with most of Antihero's basic sentiment. But, as it stands, it looks like he's pushing something from the newbie book that's easy to shove.

Killthestory, your argument isn't that hard to knock over. People with different levels of experience will come into the game with different assumptions and different playstyles. The difference between seasoned players and newbies is like the difference between adults who know multiplication and division and second graders who are learning it. Of course their approach is going to

look

different. Do you show your arithmetic on your receipt when you're tipping? If not, does that mean you're not

actually

doing mental math because the thought process isn't written out?

When Antihero talks about "teachable moments," he's trying to challenge your assumptions and biases that are (largely) inaccurate. I think you'd do well to listen to him since he's a pretty strong town player but that's just my biased opinion, I suppose. ^_^

-TTH

[Heartless]

VOTE: Firebringer

-TTH

[Firebringer]

I am pretty sure if I wanted to stay under the radar I wouldn't be posting as much as I have been.

[Firebringer]

Also are you implying that I have no charm normally?
Rude.

[Firebringer]

Um Heartless? No.

Scum can easily do that shit just as easily as I see you do it. It's called fluffing, and it's how I find scum.

Fluffing can be done by scum just as much as town.
I had one player describe my meta as such:
"If you are town, you like to goof off and are easy going with the state of the game for most part, but if you are scum you are extremely serious and display little jokes or banter"

I don't necessarily agree with that assessment, but I think it was true to an extent.

[Heartless]

I am pretty sure if I wanted to stay under the radar I wouldn't be posting as much as I have been.

who's scum?

[Firebringer]

I am pretty sure if I wanted to stay under the radar I wouldn't be posting as much as I have been.

who's scum?

I will get back to you on that when I have stronger reads.
Got a lot of null and few town as of now.

[Heartless]

i still think it's more likely than not that expedience just doesn't know what he's doing.

i'm still waiting for my prince charming scum entrance.

[Heartless]

I am pretty sure if I wanted to stay under the radar I wouldn't be posting as much as I have been.

who's scum?

I will get back to you on that when I have stronger reads.
Got a lot of null and few town as of now.

mmmmmmmmmmmmm i dunno

tth says you're scum and she's a pretty sharp gal

you wanna' throw me a bone?

[Firebringer]

mmmmmmmmmmmmm i dunno

tth says you're scum and she's a pretty sharp gal

you wanna' throw me a bone?

Okay:

I hope that satisfies you.