NY 188: Delicious Mafia II (Post-game chatter)

[Mahonster]

I am able to hammer you at this point Mah. What makes you town?

My 3161 pointed out the basics of my suspicion of Kop. I didn't vote him because that would have made it L-1 with you.
Like I said I kind of forgot that you were vig, so I was being careful and not putting anyone to L-1 yet because scum would just auto vote and win at that point.

That's why I remember I was pretty confused about this post too:

No lynch would only result in me or Anna being killed probably, as I think we're considered pretty town by now?

Why would you be killed over me?

Because idk I guess I just thought that you all thought I was town.
Apparently definitely not.
Now you're very obviously conftown though.

Kop is over simplifying my posts though. He says about me that "He is trying to look pro town because he thinks he is almost confirmed town when he isn't", but I definitely never said that there was no way I was scum or conftown.
The main two reasons I thought I appeared town was because of 1) Fire's probably town result of me, and 2) Fro99er's 3110 called me out on being Mafia Godfather, and this was the major suspicion of me at the time. Please go read that post from Fro99er's perspective of me being a VT (Because he didn't want me lynched yet being a god father, it was just a thing for later because he needed wolves dead).

If you guys think that's stupid of me then so be it but ok.
I'm now voting Kop because of the same reasons for earlier, and he seemed super happy voting me.

[Nosferatu]

Kop (Neighborizer) + Lapsa (Gunsmith) on the same team makes no sense, it would be too much power on one scum team with the addition of red (ascetic).

[Annadog40]

If Kop is scum, the game would look like this

Gunsmith - Checks if someone has a gun or not

Neighborizer - Makes friends

ascetic -Powers immune

Vs

Godpapa - Immune to cop

JoAT - One cop, one seer

Goon - The Vanilla town of Mafias

And Versus

Vanilla towns (8) - Nothing at night

Doc - Heals peeps

Universal Back Up - turned into the first dead power role

Even vig - Shoots every even day

Od Vig - Shoots every odd day

Even Night Bodyguard - Protects people on even nights

Town Cop - Checks if someone is bad or not

Town Neighborhood Inspector - Looks at neighborhoods

[Annadog40]

Kop, what makes you town?

[Kop]

I am able to hammer you at this point Mah. What makes you town?

My 3161 pointed out the basics of my suspicion of Kop. I didn't vote him because that would have made it L-1 with you.
Like I said I kind of forgot that you were vig, so I was being careful and not putting anyone to L-1 yet because scum would just auto vote and win at that point.

That's why I remember I was pretty confused about this post too:

No lynch would only result in me or Anna being killed probably, as I think we're considered pretty town by now?

Why would you be killed over me?

Because idk I guess I just thought that you all thought I was town.
Apparently definitely not.
Now you're very obviously conftown though.

Kop is over simplifying my posts though. He says about me that "He is trying to look pro town because he thinks he is almost confirmed town when he isn't", but I definitely never said that there was no way I was scum or conftown.
The main two reasons I thought I appeared town was because of

1) Fire's probably town result of me

, and 2) Fro99er's 3110 called me out on being Mafia Godfather, and this was the major suspicion of me at the time. Please go read that post from Fro99er's perspective of me being a VT (Because he didn't want me lynched yet being a god father, it was just a thing for later because he needed wolves dead).

If you guys think that's stupid of me then so be it but ok.
I'm now voting Kop because of the same reasons for earlier, and he seemed super happy voting me.

That wasn't confirmed though, I don't recall seeing Fire saying that he did investigate you. He hinted at investigating someone, but never gave a name, he said that you weren't being lynched that hinted that you may have been that person, but that was never confirmed, so in reality that doesn't say to us that you are almost confirmed town. And for your second point, that whole show between you and frog, he was scum, he knew that you weren't on his team, that doesn't necessarily clear you entirely, he just knew that you weren't on his team, that whole pointing the suspicion was in aid to get you lynched, doesn't exactly clear you from being town.

You've basically put those two scenarios down and hope that we will buy that and clear you as can't be scum because of those two reasons. But from my POV that doesn't say your almost confirmed town.

[Annadog40]

Kop, what makes you town?

[Kop]

Kop, what makes you town?

My role and alignment.

And how I have used my role to actually build up a team relationship to find scum. I did one mistake in actually bringing in one scum but at that point it looked like he was town from a player who is a lot better at reading players.

And the mistake of the hammer I felt that reading the whole situation it looked more like she wasnt town, she replaced in one game and Wolfy told me that she is active a lot when town, and well judging from her posts In this game she was more focused on other things than actually finding scum.

[Annadog40]

I've been thinking. Why didn't you invite me last night and try to guide my night kill?

[Kop]

I've been thinking. Why didn't you invite me last night and try to guide my night kill?

I didn't recruit anyone because I didn't know who to trust. After the whole fiasco of what frogger did, I started to have doubts on who I read as town and I feel that inviting another person in it was just going to create more confusion and that I'd rather discuss the game in here to remove that confusion.

[Kop]

I've been thinking. Why didn't you invite me last night and try to guide my night kill?

Besides your an odd night vigilante?

[Annadog40]

I've been thinking. Why didn't you invite me last night and try to guide my night kill?

Besides your an odd night vigilante?

So the invite doesn't take effect until the next day?

[Kop]

I've been thinking. Why didn't you invite me last night and try to guide my night kill?

Besides your an odd night vigilante?

So the invite doesn't take effect until the next day?

If I recruited anyone they go in once all night actions have been processed. So it would have been the start of this day.

[Annadog40]

I just realized that I'm the only Neighbor alive still.

I'm reading back in the thread and SilverWolf was feeling Mah as scum and others think Kop. I'm reading day two since that is the only Wearwolf flip.

[Annadog40]

Day two also has goodmorning as scummy

[Annadog40]

Who was scum reading Fro99er the hardest?

[Nosferatu]

Probably me, I voted him and all, but I couldn't build a convincing case to get him lynched and we ended up mislynching gm.

[Annadog40]

So Mah votes for Red and Kop decides not to. Lapsa moved onto red then left. Red was sketch about Mah and Kop.

Mah was more consistently scum read and Kop was town to null with some scum sprinkled in. Lapsa was less on Kop then Mah.

From Day two and five.

[Mahonster]

Yeah I've been lynch bait waiting just behind the curtain for the entire game.
Point is that now it really counts because if I'm lynched today then we lose.

I'm obviously very far from perfect at my town game, I'm kind of new to this site's mafia, and nobody alive and few people dead have played with me before. My play style as town is probably different than what people would expect judging from my past two games.

But Anna your last post has to be the main idea. Look at the relationships between (Me Lapsa Red) vs (Kop Lapsa Red) throughout the game. That's normally what I'm really good at, is relationships and mapping out how people interact with each other, but I've failed at a lot of things.

I really apologize about my part of this game because I have been extremely busy staying on top of school, and I expected to have more time available to analyze and dive in to discussions. Unfortunately though that's been pretty difficult.

Kop has to be it, look at all of the things that add up. Him and Lapsa voting together yesterday, me vs red, Aero wanting to possibly use a scum neighborizer etc.

Also, go look at Lapsa's iso. Ctrl+F the word "hood" and see how many times he mentions that he's not in a hood. "Still not in a hood -_-" pretty frequently. Daylight crumbing that he wants Kop to invite him in.

[Mahonster]

He mentions that he's information deprived etc not being in a hood in 3 separate posts. In 3009he directly asks Kop why he didn't hood anyone N4.

Although, wouldn't they just say this in Night chat? Lapsa trying to scrub off a connection? Forgot to say it? I'm not really sure.

[Nosferatu]

if you were lynch bait scum would've gone for you instead of gm yesterday wouldn't they? You were being scumread more than gm at first.

[Nosferatu]

I feel like some NKA is needed here.

[Annadog40]

NKA

No Known Allergy?

[Annadog40]

if you were lynch bait scum would've gone for you instead of gm yesterday wouldn't they?

Scum would rather keep lynch bait around to confuse town.

[Mahonster]

I'm all for night kill analysis go for it.

[Aeronaut]

vc 6.2

VoteCount 6.3

With 4 alive it's 3 to lynch!

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Annadog40

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Mahonster -

Nosferatu, Kop

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Mahonster

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Day 6 ends in (expired on 2015-09-30 15:40:32)