NY 190: Molla's Large Normal

[I Am Innocent]

If performer died during the night u could see he targeted veegee, and we could autolynch him d2!!!!!!!!!!!!

[talah]

Who is he crumbing that he's hiding behind then? OR did I upset his careful balance and out the oh so important hider PR?

[I Am Innocent]

Hider can only die at night 2 ways, if they hide behind scum or the person they hide behind is a NK target. Veegee isn't likely to be the latter so he would be the perfect person to hide behind. Which makes the hider an investigative role

[talah]

http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Hider

[talah]

The Hider has the ability to target one player each night. It is a Weak role and as such will die if it targets mafia. In case the hider targets a town-alligned player, he or she will be untargetable for all other roles. However, that does not mean the hider is entirely safe: should the person he or she is hiding behind get shot, the hider will be shot as well. This only goes for a nightkill.

[talah]

So Performer was defo crumbing hider and he was making sure Veegee was town so he could avoid being nightkilled.

[talah]

With his questions about RL.

[talah]

Hider's not on the list of normal roles.

http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?tit ... rmal_Roles

[I Am Innocent]

So Performer was defo crumbing hider and he was making sure Veegee was town so he could avoid being nightkilled.

Hider's main focus is to be investigative. If your investigating a scummy or lurking player (either real scum or mislynch bait), you probably aren't going to hide behind the NK target.

1) So if morning comes, and that player is still alive and the flipped hider is dead, guess what, free scum lynch.

2) If both are alive, Hider can either crumb that town result and continue or fully out it depending on the situation.

If we have a hider, that is probably our only investigative role with 14 players, esp if choof was being honest about being confirmed town.

[talah]

Oh wait you were saying that Performer was going to hide behind VeeGee-scum, my bad.
That makes sense given Performer was actually suspicious of VeeGee. And Zakk. and Aj/Luna/choof (I think)

[I Am Innocent]

Could still be a weak role. That modifier is normal:

http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Weak

[I Am Innocent]

Modified for what I saw:

I'm just asking Vee some questions...like if I was Vig and shot him
what would he think


but really, I am afraid to die...

[talah]

If we have a hider, that is probably our only investigative role with 14 players, esp if choof was being honest about being confirmed town.

It's not a normal role. It can't be in the game. He's not a hider. It's a stupid role.
Go to the mod for clarification if you're concerned. I posted the wiki link for normal roles.
And Hider is not mentioned at all in the Normal game description.

[I Am Innocent]

And...if I were to shoot you on night 1
what do you think about that?

Which brought me back to this. I thought he trying to lay out his target in multiple posts, and his crumb was the "i'm afraid to die"

[talah]

The modifier is normal. The role is not.

[talah]

And...if I were to shoot you on night 1
what do you think about that?

Which brought me back to this. I thought he trying to lay out his target in multiple posts, and his crumb was the "i'm afraid to die"

This is going down such esoteric paths that I'm surprised you're bothering.
Who's your other scumbuddy?

Do you have two?

[I Am Innocent]

If we have a hider, that is probably our only investigative role with 14 players, esp if choof was being honest about being confirmed town.

It's not a normal role. It can't be in the game. He's not a hider. It's a stupid role.
Go to the mod for clarification if you're concerned. I posted the wiki link for normal roles.
And Hider is not mentioned at all in the Normal game description.

I've also been a weak doc, same thing. okay maybe little stronger.

PS - Note PGO is also not on that list. Does that change your thinking at all?

[I Am Innocent]

And...if I were to shoot you on night 1
what do you think about that?

Which brought me back to this. I thought he trying to lay out his target in multiple posts, and his crumb was the "i'm afraid to die"

This is going down such esoteric paths that I'm surprised you're bothering.
Who's your other scumbuddy?

Do you have two?

Nope not scum. But feel to vote for me to find out.

[I Am Innocent]

*feel free

[I Am Innocent]

The modifier is normal. The role is not.

This is in reference to what?

[talah]

There's like a 1% chance that IaI is strawmanning Performer.
So I'm voting the scum that just confirmed himself.

UNVOTE: Performer
VOTE: I am Innocent

Pre-edit:
The weak modifier is normal. The role has to be valid to apply it. Hider is not a normal role.
Same as "X-shot". You can apply x-shot to any valid role, because the modifier is normal.

PGO not being normal doesn't change my aspect because ummm I never took it as a legitimate claim so ummm never looked it up. I'm unsurprised that he fucked up 2 fake-claim crumbs out of 3.

[Luna Fox]

Yeah see, the paranoia thing came about when Performer was answering talah's question, which in turn doesn't actually answered talah's question, so he avoided answering it.

[BBmolla]

VOTECOUNT ONE POINT TEN

PERFORMER - 4 - AJ THE EPIC, LUNA FOX, FA_Q2, VEDITH,
VEDITH - 2 - BANANACUCHO, I AM INNOCENT
BANANACUCHO - 2 - CHANNELDELIBIRD, VEEGEE,
THEWORST - 1 - CATBOI,
ZAKK - 1 - PERFORMER
AJ THE EPIC - 1 - ZAKK
I AM INNOCENT - 1 - TALAH,

NOT VOTING: THEWORST, SKYBIRD,

DEADLINE: (expired on 2015-09-30 20:05:00)

WITH 14 ALIVE IT TAKES 8 TO LYNCH

[Aj The Epic]

There's like a 1% chance that IaI is strawmanning Performer.
So I'm voting the scum that just confirmed himself.

UNVOTE: Performer
VOTE: I am Innocent

Pre-edit:
The weak modifier is normal. The role has to be valid to apply it. Hider is not a normal role.
Same as "X-shot". You can apply x-shot to any valid role, because the modifier is normal.

PGO not being normal doesn't change my aspect because ummm I never took it as a legitimate claim so ummm never looked it up. I'm unsurprised that he fucked up 2 fake-claim crumbs out of 3.

Can you explain the "1% strawman" and how that makes IaI scum?

[BBmolla]

TITUS REPLACES CATBOI