In post 4899, Titus wrote: In post 4891, Cerberus v666 wrote:People are REALLY fucking smart...and they frequently don't realize exactly how smart they are. Our subconscious is trained to watch for patterns, and things that don't FIT patterns. Gut is when something doesn't match the expected pattern, but you don't actually know what made it not match. If you're good enough, and dedicated enough, you will ALWAYS be able to go back and logically identify WHAT exactly caused that ping.
pedit: grapes, we asked you that because we were curious what you'd say. It wasn't encouragement, if it was, we would have asked for you to vote him.
About the hermit WotC thing: It's not because I can't read him, I don't care about that. it's because he doesn't contribute to the game. It isn't fun to play the game with people who don't talk.
True but our brain is also trained to pick up patterns that aren't there. That's why we need a group to verify.
Plus, the group is better than a person. Everyone knows how much a pound weighs. Put a cow in front of everyone and you get wild guesses but the average is better than any expert.
Valid point. I think when we're just talking about forum mafia, the thing to do is know what to go look at when your "gut" goes off. I've gotten really good over the years at spotting when scum "narrative" shifts without a town reason for it, but it first requires that my mind catches it and I get that "gut" thing, and then I have to go find it. I won't generally lay down a vote just on a gut feeling alone, because there have been a lot of times where that "gut" sense has led me to realizing someone is a cop or a doctor or something else, and the best thing I can do when I realize that is keep my mouth shut (as either alignment).
So my play tends to require time, but I find it relaxing as a counterpoint to my job. It exercises my mind in a different way, and given that I've been confined to a wheelchair with a T1 level spinal injury since I was 11 ... exercising my mind is the best way I have to burn calories (apart from my daily shadow boxing aerobics to keep the heart healthy and the weight off).
In post 4901, grapes wrote:i felt like xtoxm's vote on hermit after yall unvoted was pretty scum motivated especially with supersaint paranoia swimming around and really liked when hermit called that out
hermit didn't put up all that bad of a fight in comparison to some of the games ive read that he was in
I've seen
much
worse end game performances by both town and scum players. I think if Constantine had just been willing to look at his own ISO and show me what he had contributed to the town ... just that action would have made me reset my assumptions. My thoughts when I begged him to do that was that scum wouldn't do it but a townie who was invested in winning would do it.
I've been kicking myself since the game ended since I had Xtoxm in the lynch order ahead of Constantine for weeks and weeks now, and I let my confusion with how Constantine plays (and a poor assumption about a mod comment) lead me into seeing his actions during the day as scum flailing instead of town exasperation.
I hope you read our hydra PT, Grapes. You'll find that I was initially over the top angry with you, but then later you'll see us blaming ourselves and basically saying that if the game went to scum it would be because of a huge error we made.
