NY 189 - Flower Viewing Festival [~fin~]

[DrippingGoofball]

His algorithm is ALSO meant to subtract of the background random rate at which random people would flip scum ( " (VAR H * 100) - (VAR B * 100) ")

I was too lazy for this level of complication. I just winged it.

[DrippingGoofball]

magic with numbers can make sakura look scummy, BUT there is nothing VCA like that is significantly wrong with the scum team of
Echo Echo and DrippignGoofBall.

I strongly disagree, objectively, that's an unlikely pairing. I have explained why.

[Spiffeh]

That DGB VCA is not and cannot be strong evidence against Sakura.

I never claimed this and even said it made no sense to me.

Look at my post 3485 for my reasons.

[DrippingGoofball]

You are spontaneous like that?

Yes, and from my perspective, you're kinda tunneling on a townie, so that's not in your favor.

You are failing to really look at the rest. As such I no longer think your line of inquiry is necessarily town-motivated.

[AxleGreaser]

That DGB VCA is not and cannot be strong evidence against Sakura.

I never claimed this and even said it made no sense to me.

Look at my post 3485 for my reasons.

sry skipped that one.
(I am not scum reading you so it didnt reach the top of the priority queue. I am busy deciding just how sure i am of which reads.)
(even which bits of which reads, AKA my reading of sakura via the thread, and th apparent intent of posts, vs that claim)

and yes sorry about that 3420 is why out of DGB and Echo echo i would like to lynch Echo first.

I posit the reason you cant understand the VCA in part is because they are bollocks.
(i have just a bit more than lot of RL experience at algorithms(heuristics) like scumputer, so i can see what the algorithm ought be, and see what its not as implemented in this game.)

This may leave us screwed.

Fro99er slot is still the towniest town to have ever towned.

as town need every vote to lynch scum.
Can you explain to me why you say that about Fro99er?

[AxleGreaser]

You are spontaneous like that?

Yes, and from my perspective, you're kinda tunneling on a townie, so that's not in your favor.

You are failing to really look at the rest. As such I no longer think your line of inquiry is necessarily town-motivated.

Err thats bollocks have you read my filter?

Where exactly do you think it was that someone (me identified that sakura track claim was questionable with the BP claim and sheeping Sala?)

I have looked very hard at lots of people. Its you who appear to have narrow focus.

If you want me to believe in your VCA you will need to colour in a scum team.

I am not ready to do that right now, I am replacing in and I haven't read the thread.

I am hoping to see who feels town to help me narrow things down.

[AxleGreaser]

Ever since Fro99er's Day 1 post vomit I have been fairly certain he was town.

Did this mean the post vomit made him town, or the stuff since then made him town.
and can you explain it to me?

[Spiffeh]

The post vomit.

I can actually talk about it now since the game is over.

Fro99er was scum in Delicious Mafia 2 which ended very recently and his play here does not resemble his play there in the slightest.

[AxleGreaser]

Fro99er is town he just seems to stream of conscious/erratic to be scum.

Was it this?
and if so can you point to bits that particularly lean that way.

[AxleGreaser]

Fro99er was scum in Delicious Mafia 2 which ended very recently and his play here does not resemble his play there in the slightest.

He was drunk Fro99er.

he has played scum a few times now.
Rolling scum yet again can make it all just too hard.
What i am speaking from is experience, my scum game has turned radical corners over time.
I was overly angry and aggressive for couple of games, then pulled out perfect win being widely town read (offsite)

I got no sense of him figuring the game out D1 or D2.

I found the pushes on Tn aero and the like to not feel genuine. Tack on additions to his actual push on me.


But as it was drunk fro99er i wrote off d1, and then I couldnt find town Fro99er the other days either.

[AxleGreaser]

Its nearly 5am I am going to bed.
I will read delicious mafia 2 tomorrow soemtime.

[AxleGreaser]

The post vomit.

I can actually talk about it now since the game is over.

Fro99er was scum in Delicious Mafia 2 which ended very recently and his play here does not resemble his play there in the slightest.

also if that make s Fro99er town.

Can you show me the game where scum Sakura played like D1 here?

[AxleGreaser]

The post vomit.

I can actually talk about it now since the game is over.

Fro99er was scum in Delicious Mafia 2 which ended very recently and his play here does not resemble his play there in the slightest.

also if that make s Fro99er town.

Can you show me the game where scum Sakura played like D1 here?

Im tooo bleary to be sure but this one looks different
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... ct[]=21374

[Sakura Hana]

Non broken ISO of that game

[Sakura Hana]

If you use "display posts by user" at the bottom you get a better ISO link, and you can even use it to ISO multiple people simultanously.

[DrippingGoofball]

The post vomit.

I can actually talk about it now since the game is over.

Fro99er was scum in Delicious Mafia 2 which ended very recently and his play here does not resemble his play there in the slightest.

It would seem unlikely for scum to hard-defend another player like this (another player I know to be town, ie me), with victory so close.

[Shazam]

The post vomit.

I can actually talk about it now since the game is over.

Fro99er was scum in Delicious Mafia 2 which ended very recently and his play here does not resemble his play there in the slightest.

Yeah, I didn't have a Fro99er meta established, so I thought he was scum from what he said, but I'm leaning pretty hard the other way now. Plus DGB is useful to us even if she's somehow scum, because she's being very vocal about who voted what way. Of course the problem, as Axle has pointed out, is always the fact that she's not going to come to the conclusion that her predecessor was scum. But I don't believe that anyway, as Axle's post about that is unconvincing. I agree that Echo and DGB is very unlikely and since I think Echo's scum, I think DGB isn't. If I had to throw out a scumteam, it would be Echo and Sakura, but Sakura's mostly on setup speculation and I prefer to go with reason before setup speculation.

[Sakura Hana]

Plus DGB is useful to us even if she's somehow scum

Uh... what.
Like it's not that i think DGB's scum anymore, but, in the supposed scenario of DGB being scum why would she be "useful"

[Spiffeh]

Shazam you think that there is more compelling evidence to lynch Echo (of which I barely see any btw) when Sakura gave up someone who was confirmed to her as scum just to sheep Salamence?

[Sakura Hana]

but Sakura's mostly on setup speculation and I prefer to go with reason before setup speculation.

If anything setup speculation points towards me being town.
For you to think that i'm scum you'd have to think i'm lying about my role.

[Shazam]

Plus DGB is useful to us even if she's somehow scum

Uh... what.
Like it's not that i think DGB's scum anymore, but, in the supposed scenario of DGB being scum why would she be "useful"

This is explained in the post.

Shazam you think that there is more compelling evidence to lynch Echo (of which I barely see any btw) when Sakura gave up someone who was confirmed to her as scum just to sheep Salamence?

Actually no. You're right, that doesn't fit into the "setup speculation" category. The rest of it does, but the more I think about it, her explanation doesn't add up. On principle, I didn't want to go with the one of my scumreads that I had setup/night action reasons to vote for (as opposed to normal scumhunting), but I'm more confident that she is scum out of the two.

VOTE: Sakura Hana

[Sakura Hana]

So in other words you think that town has no protection from night kills at all?
Good spec.

VOTE: Shazam

[Sakura Hana]

I'm p.sure Echo's town, so if Shazam's town, it's gg, so This is the only choice i have at this point in time.

I still can't tell you've had a scumread on me since D1, and your reads behaved in a static way, yet you still never voted me until MyLo, when people actually want to lynch me, go figure.

[pieguyn]

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