Mini 1714: Justified Season 2 Mafia (Endgame)

[BBmolla]

holy fuck UT if you're scum who made chamber claim that to fuck with me

ayy lmao

[Untrod Tripod]

what game? was that Genesis?

that was a bastard game, bro all bets were off

[Untrod Tripod]

holy fuck UT if you're scum who made chamber claim that to fuck with me

ayy lmao

...are you suggesting that chamber is scum with me and that we crafted that fakeclaim so that I could believe it then doubtcast it so we could force a lynch on him and clear me until endgame?

that'd be hilariously devious, but I'd never be THAT cheeky

[Untrod Tripod]

~~aGgrESsivE - mInD - gAMeS~~~~~

[catboi]

I think I have an idea of what you're claiming. Cat, why do you want power roles to claim? I don't think that would really add info to the 1 v 1.

I never asked for roles to claim. I asked if people were in favor of claiming. I've also said that unless someone else claims a comparable investigative role, chamber is likely town. Judging by reactions to his guilty claim that doesn't look to be the case.

I will come up with revised reads in the morning - for realsies.
Initial impressions are me not trusting molla or chamber but I'm super biased against people I expect good things from and end up scumreading me for terrible reasons.

PLUS, I'm still in the mindset to think I was right about Varsoon being town so I'll spend some time reevaluating in the near future to see if I missed anything.

You're suspicious of both claimed power roles. Do better.

...I'm dumb

anyway dead players would probably not have a lot of "targets" on them in a mini, esp given the roles flipped

so...

I dunno. this is hard.

fake

I'm tempted to nokill and force the mafia into a choice.

Either let Chamber get another result and thus allow us another chance to cross examine his claim/get more results, OR force the mafia to kill Chamber, which gives us a confirmed lynch.

I mean, yes, it puts us into perpetual lylo vs. mylo, but it gives us options.

I dunno, this also hinges on assumptions like: there are 3 scum, and scum will only be able to kill one person tonight, and other shit.

So I dunno, let me think on this.

Had considered this before he'd claimed his role, there's not a lot of downside to doing this but I can think of some, one is that since people are outing stances, opens the door for scum to kill whoever opposes them the most and make it easier to get the mislynch

I don't understand how a forensic investigator or whatever is balanced in a mini. One person dies each nights so you basically get a confirmed guilty. (Unless two people targeted them, but how often will that happen?)

How much understanding do you have of typical setup balance?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

How possible was it that UT was bussing the whole time, and the team is like !Varsoon/UT/Dwe?

Catboi, thoughts?

[Untrod Tripod]

how possible is it that LLD was bussing the whole time, and the team is like !Varsoon/LLD/catboi

wow look I can do that too

[catboi]

Well I'd put money on one of you two being scum

[Lady Lambdadelta]

how possible is it that LLD was bussing the whole time, and the team is like !Varsoon/LLD/catboi

wow look I can do that too

That's an extremely defensive response from you, given the situation.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Well I'd put money on one of you two being scum

I need more words than that, I'm afraid. Help me out here.

[Untrod Tripod]

how possible is it that LLD was bussing the whole time, and the team is like !Varsoon/LLD/catboi

wow look I can do that too

That's an extremely defensive response from you, given the situation.

I'm starting to get super paranoid

[catboi]

I'm starting to get super paranoid

faaaaaaaaaaake

[Lady Lambdadelta]

how possible is it that LLD was bussing the whole time, and the team is like !Varsoon/LLD/catboi

wow look I can do that too

That's an extremely defensive response from you, given the situation.

I'm starting to get super paranoid

Well, ask yourself, with the skill level at scum I have, why I'd bother saying what I said there, knowing it would fuel that paranoia, as opposed to trying to lure you and stroke your ego?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Catboi, I need 3 names from you now. Obviously, Chamber and Varsoon are a 1v1.

So from the remaining 5 of Myself, UT, Dwe, Shinobi and BBMolla, I need 2 plus your opinion on Chamber vs. Varsoon.

[I_Am_Not_Varsoon]

CB: You have to admit that Dwlee has a point, right? If this were a set up with a power like the one Chamber is claiming then you would expect there to be more town abilities that targeted other players.
Like: if there were another investigatory role or a fruit vendor or some shit, then the ability would not turn into a kill-a-day machine.

Honestly, I think there may still be a cop somewhere, but they have not hit a guilty yet. The N1 read could have gone anywhere and N2 probably went to xtox

[I_Am_Not_Varsoon]

Lambda is ovscum still, btw: coming out of lurk retirement to push my wagon through.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Yes that is why my vote is currently on no one and I'm been questioning chamber and considering a no lynch today.

But thank you for that post I'm actuallly more convinced you're scum now. You didn't even rread, you're just throwing out placations to try and keep yourself alive.

[catboi]

Lambda is ovscum still, btw: coming out of lurk retirement to push my wagon through.

ohhhh god what a delicious post

[catboi]

Catboi, I need 3 names from you now. Obviously, Chamber and Varsoon are a 1v1.

So from the remaining 5 of Myself, UT, Dwe, Shinobi and BBMolla, I need 2 plus your opinion on Chamber vs. Varsoon.

well the way you're posting right now is giving me the heebie jeebies and I don't see why I need to decide firmly at this point in time, but if you'd been reading at least some of what I think should be clear

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Catboi, I need 3 names from you now. Obviously, Chamber and Varsoon are a 1v1.

So from the remaining 5 of Myself, UT, Dwe, Shinobi and BBMolla, I need 2 plus your opinion on Chamber vs. Varsoon.

well the way you're posting right now is giving me the heebie jeebies and I don't see why I need to decide firmly at this point in time, but if you'd been reading at least some of what I think should be clear

You are making this harder than it has to be. I don't care what you think about me or about your fucking heebie jeebies, I just want an answer to my god damned mother fucking question, and if it wouldn't be too much trouble to give me a few words about why your opinions split one way over another, I'd be very happy to hear it.

See, I've been doing some rereading, specifically of the previous vote counts, and I have THINGS TO SAY, so I want your ANSWER please and thank you.

[catboi]

You, notvarsoon, shinobi. I wanted to keep messing with UT, but whatever

[I_Am_Not_Varsoon]

@LLD
Are you sure you are not trying to look like a scum-buddy if Chamber's plan backfires?
Frankly, I found your apparently unmotivated FoS of Chamber yesterday pretty suspect. Now I worry it was distancing yourself if one or the other ended up flipping day 3.

I am always watching, LLD. I am ever vigilant.

[catboi]

CB: You have to admit that Dwlee has a point, right? If this were a set up with a power like the one Chamber is claiming then you would expect there to be more town abilities that targeted other players.
Like: if there were another investigatory role or a fruit vendor or some shit, then the ability would not turn into a kill-a-day machine.

Please tell me more about how weak doc + bomb + doppelganger + mislyncher isn't an overly weak assortment of town roles, even if scum were three goons (and this is maybe wifom-y but I'd bet anything against it being three goons)

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Pefect.

UT, the team is very likely Catboi, Varsoon and Dwe.

This theory rests on the idea that BBMolla is town and I have my whole gut on that. If he's not, I lose this whole game ANYWAY eventually, so yeah.

Chamber vs. Varsoon is scary, and honestly, it COULD be Chamber, but I think the way Chamber claimed, and how he talked about me maybe being a vig yesterday (which would make a lot of sense with his claim today, and his attempts to understand why his role is in the game, plus how hard it has been to actually LYNCH !Varsoon, I'm confident in this choice.

So Molla Me and Chamber are town, and Varsoon is scum.

Which leaves You, Shinobi Dwe aand Catboi.

I honestly truly to god believe you're town this game UT. Not JUST because of the way we've played off each other, but you've been tunnelling !Varsoon so hard with me it's... it would be impressive to see you fool me that way so I'm going to believe in you. Plus, I think Catboi is scum, and I've been trying to bait him the past few posts into committing somewhere.

His read on Shinobi seals the deal for me I think. He thinks even if !Varsoon is lynched, he can get one of me or you to turn on the other, OR get us to lynch shinobi.

So I'm confident in my read on Dwe.

Dwe/Catboi/!Varsoon. Put your money on it I promise you.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

We need all the townies to vote for scum today.

If we mislynch we lose.

So I HAVE to be right about EVERYTHING.