Tarot uPick II - GAME OVER

[Kuroko Network]

Oh, Wisdom's top poster now after my V/LA. Awesome.


P-edit: Hello, The Collective.

[Klingoncelt]

luna i think it was the correct approach actually. If you used your shots before knowing your sanity it would be pointless.

How can she know her sanity without using a shot?

[Aj The Epic]

A lot of roles here seem to need time to activate/change.

[Klingoncelt]

Reference for farside:

Not sure who I want to move it to :/

I'm not sure about Brantz. He called me town. I'm a sucker for people who call me town :p

I kinda wouldn't mind lynching klingon though.

lets do that

VOTE: klingon

- no votes for klingon, not even from tammy -

- 2 votes happen on PN instead, so I join that wagon -

- Then Tier votes Klingon, late to the party -

Oh, so this is some sort of anti-popularity contest?

Kling's in the game, so let's auto-lynch her?

That's

very

unsportsmanlike conduct. It's happened enough that I may need to bring it to the attention of the list mod.

In the meantime:

VOTE: Wisdom

[Luna Fox]

Spoiler: Brants on Ika

@Zelink: I mean I am hardly the only person not updating the threads with their changing reads real time, but why are you blatantly ignoring the fact that I admitted my read was changing based on new information about the Wisdom/Kuroko argument. Wisdom was fairly obviously the lesser of the two scum reads (at least to me it was, but you didn't seem to think I was really clear on anything so maybe not as clear as I thought). While discussing my reads you completely ignore my Grandpa Oil read, which I think we can agree was not "wishy-washy" at all, and only talk about my Luna and Tammy reads. My read on Wall of Fire obviously evolved over time (from nullish with mild scum points to town based on changing game information). I'm not completely sure your stance on me is completely organic either, but you seem to have convinced everyone else (yes I realize we are like a day and a half from deadline, and I probably can't not be lynched at this point, but I still have to try.)

@Oil: I'm not giving Ika a pass on his lurking. I interacted with him in the neighborhood he mentioned in2238 about it since it was hard to get him to say anything here. He is in my scum reads based on the interaction we had about it. He was neutral before based on his initial response to that question acknowledging that he was playing to his scum meta. But the fact that he continues to say how unmotivated he is to try (both in thread and in our interaction) it has gotten too thin.

@Pro:
Town:Tammy, Oil Tycoons, Wall of Fire, Luna Fox, Kamigami
Town lean: Bacde, Zelink, AJ the Epic, Idiocy
Neutral: Fluff Central, Medea the Alien, Wisdom, Prohawk, Perpetual Nonsense, pisskop
Scum Lean: Kuroko Network, Klingoncelt, Aneninen
Scummy: Vedith, Ika Zaru

@ika: I mean mala isn't really in the game yet is she (has she even posted)? If you are going to tell me you can just switch off your scum meta its time to nut up or shut up.

As for my claim:

I am the Tower Reversed, Town JoaT. I have 4 1-shot abilities: Roleblock, Doctor, Tracker, Jailkeeper. My role also says that other players abilities may change what I do during the game.

VOTE: ika zaru

Why do you want to post in the hood more than in the game ika? I'm not butthurt at you, but your assertion that while we have both been playing to our "scum meta" you can just stop and that fixes everything, and you don't see me as being able to do so as easily is asinine.

ika, what are your reads besides me right now?

(I mean I have my calculus class in 6 hours, so I feel you on being here when you should be sleeping)

I didn't intend for it to be melodrama, in my experience town ika gets pissed of when someone reacts like that, so I wanted to see what he would do in response.

Yes, I know Vedith claimed governor. I don't particularly believe the claim, but no one else seems to want to test it today.

First: Independent of the muki v wisdom thing Muki added almost nothing to the game content wise. He said nothing while quoting a lot of people. It is a way to look like you are contributing while doing nothing. I didn't like how Vedith wanted people to not judge him at all on Muki's actions on his replace in, the actions of the predecessor are still relevant even if you can't answer for them, and despite that he doesn't offer many thoughts outside of his argument with wisdom. He hops onto my wagon because its easy, though he admits that to be the case. I just don't get town feelings from the slot at all.

ika made me think he was a bad guy through the thought process he had of "both of us are playing to our scum meta, but I can stop doing it whenever I want (so people won't think I'm scum), but you can't really do that" It is just poor logic, and a bad reason to scum read me while I was catching up and posting content in the thread, though I'm not sure how much of any of that ika saw.

UNVOTE: I actually think ika is town based on his reaction to my provocation, and what we are talking about in the hood.

Hmm

Spoiler: Ika on Brantz

like our hood is fucking dumb.

wis wont post cus "OMG THERES SCUM"
notty wont even go in there anymore as far as i know
breaz is butthurt about me so he wont talk to me there

like why did i have to get the shit hood

I mean I would have been open to working in the hood except that you have had no real interest in working with me.

Zelink: I went into more detail about my Oil read than that, see post 1687

-.-

go to the hood ill be there in a moment to talk

Notes: Brantz vote on Ika had come in after the claim, Ika asks Brantz to talk in the hood, Brantz was trying to provoke Ika and easily backs off. Probably Ika town actually.

[Luna Fox]

I don't understand Klingon's post, but the vote is correct.

[Klingoncelt]

Tell me how you are evaluating the game kling.

I'm doing a fair job of it.

At present I'm working my way through the posts, seeing much.

I know 3 people got their elements changed.

It probably relates to Luna's potential accuracy.

Not sure, but I think when players change to a certain element they're put in a neighborhood. Is it the same one FluffCentral spoke of, or a different one? I dunno.

What I do need to know - what all of us need to know - is which of us is which element.

[Fluff Central]

VOTE: Wisdom

[Fluff Central]

Why the fuck do we all need to out elements

fuck that shit

[Klingoncelt]

Posting to reset time counter for D2.

What? Really?

[Aj The Epic]

Cut out the rest of it and we have a good old no context quote.

[Perpetual Nonsense]

Finally
Some life in ceph
This is what we've been waiting for

I feel like a dead fish this game, but I don't know if not being fun is alignment indicative for me or not.

Just saw this. It's not. It was the same in Winter Ball and Purple!

[Klingoncelt]

I don't understand Klingon's post, but the vote is correct.

In a nutshell Scum Wisdom is trying to get a clique vote on the low-hanging fruit (me.)


By the way -

Idiocy and AJ the Epic are also Scum.

I want you guys to act on this if I get killed tonight. I usually don't last long in games.

In far too many games someone will correctly list the Scum team, the player gets killed, and the next day everyone forgets what the dead player said, essentially going full-blown derp and mislynching a Townie.

Idiocy and AJ the Epic are also Scum.

Remember that.

[Luna Fox]

Idiocy and AJ the Epic are also Scum.

Could agree on Aj, unsure why Idiocy?

[Klingoncelt]

Why the fuck do we all need to out elements

fuck that shit

If a player with the same element is targeted, the action will be successful. Targeting other elements either changes or cancels the action's effectiveness.

Earth and Water are friendly and passive
Earth and Fire strengthen each other but are neutral
Earth and Air are enemies; they weaken each other
Water and Earth are friendly and passive
Water and Air strengthen each other but are neutral
Water and Fire are enemies; they weaken each other
Fire and Air are friendly and active
Fire and Earth strengthen each other but are neutral
Fire and Water are enemies; they weaken each other
Air and Fire are friendly and active
Air and Water strengthen each other but are neutral
Air and Earth are enemies; they weaken each other


On Day 1 I was Earth. I am not Earth today. I was not in a neighborhood D1, I am not today.

[Klingoncelt]

Idiocy and AJ the Epic are also Scum.

Could agree on Aj, unsure why Idiocy?

Check his interactions with Wisdom and his "idiotic" vote on me.

Funny that neither one were thrilled with my reading of Brantz's 3 Cards. Funny indeed.

[Luna Fox]

How do you know this?

P-Edit: About the elements.

[Klingoncelt]

Cut out the rest of it and we have a good old no context quote.

Sorry, I misread. It's just a prodge, I thought you had some power to change the Day deadline.

[Klingoncelt]

How do you know this?

P-Edit: About the elements.

It was in my role PM.

[Aj The Epic]

Cut out the rest of it and we have a good old no context quote.

Sorry, I misread. It's just a prodge, I thought you had some power to change the Day deadline.

Explain your read on me please.

[Luna Fox]

So if scum didn't know this info, they do now, what if scum is the one changing people's elements and now will use that info to change people's elements to benefit them?

What was the purpose of outing this?

[Ika Zaru]

im pretty sure me and notty has figured out what happened and why people elements have changed

[Ika Zaru]

and if we are right its not the results of a scums action

[Klingoncelt]

So if scum didn't know this info, they do now, what if scum is the one changing people's elements and now will use that info to change people's elements to benefit them?

What was the purpose of outing this?

Say a Doctor wants to protect Player X. The protect fails because the Doc is an enemy element to X. X winds up dead.

For most PRs, anyone targeted will have to be of the correct element for the action to work. If it's an enemy element the action probably won't work at all and if it's neutral or friendly the action might be altered or weakened.

Knowledge could be of advantage to Scum, but they may already have it if they're in any of the neighborhoods,, definitely the Day 1 Hood.

This info could help Town catch up to Scum's level of info. It would also make our actions more effective.

[Klingoncelt]

im pretty sure me and notty has figured out what happened and why people elements have changed

Tell us.