NY 190: Molla's Large Normal

[Titus]

In a large, there's 4 to 6 scum.

This started as 14p tho

So there's 4 scum.

[Titus]

Even if you think there's just 3, Sal's still suggesting a wagon on his third scumread sucks despite town reading me and making zero effort to sort me.

[Luna Fox]

I'm pretty sure Vedith just did something that made him jump to top scumread.
Which is also why i'm voting Vedith (This isn't a blind sheep)

[Salamence20]

Titus Ive already called you town calm down

[Titus]

I'm pretty sure Vedith just did something that made him jump to top scumread.
Which is also why i'm voting Vedith (This isn't a blind sheep)

What's that?

@Sal, Calling me town, if I am at best, has little bearings on my read unless its inconsistent with your behavior.

[Salamence20]

Then why are you askig me to sort you out when I have scumreads

[Titus]

Then why are you askig me to sort you out when I have scumreads

Because your whole approach reeks of buddying. You mentioned I am a quarterback for my team and must be hit to show my true colors and that I am deadly if not hit hard and fast.

Wouldn't you want to hit me to make me show my true colors that way I couldn't cut you if I was scum?

[Salamence20]

Im not buddying you.

In fact, that "compliment" can be said as either scum or town, I just want to make a note that you and Vedith ran it and that you should take blame regardless of if its your wincon or not.

Im just saying that as either alignment, after the first few days pass, people like you and me play way better as scum.

[Titus]

How does Vedith fit into this?

[Salamence20]

Vedith is being dumb, which isnt part of his towngame imo

[Titus]

That has what to do with our discussion? It's awkward.

Plus stupid (which not necessarily accurate) =/= scummy. Singer is the closest to that level for me.

[Salamence20]

Vedith plays more seriously as town.

[Titus]

And his play here is Serious. He had pages back and forth with Talah.

[BBmolla]

Prodding I am innocent

[Performer]

1530 – The Voice. It’s a cool show.
1547 – you’re saying that scum targeted Luna out of everyone else, who you sought to protect out of everyone else, then you claimed 2-shot Bp Doc, along with outing a 2nd FN. Oh, and you’re now saying I’m trolling? Sigh.
1555 – this guy Ved LOL….
1558 – I’m talking about the rest of us alive. In terms of disbelief and scratching my head, maybe you have different definitions on those things. According to you, if we have 2-shot Bp Doc, 2 FNs, then scum have a Strongman, 2 Goons, 1 JK? Hm. Interesting.
As far as you wondering about my playstyle, the more you wonder about it, the longer you’ll keep scumreading me. We’ve never played in a game before but what I can tell you is anyone who delves very much on my how my playstyle changes midgame or how it’s different compared to another game, well, talking about that is not going to help town.
You have to re-read because I already answered your 3 questions.
Scum changes strategies but town who actually cares, they have to change their behavior as well if something is causing more chaos.
1519 – FA - you don’t think scum could fake counterclaim the first FN claim?
@Worst – who’re your scumreads at the moment?

1652 – Titus, are you a laywer?
Regardless, I’m thankful you’re here with your veteran experience oozing out of every pore.
Btw, that’s a very creative way to make a case. Two thumbs up.

1656 – as d1 neared the end and Vee’s vote came up against me, I started wondering about him. Then his vote landed on zak and after zak’s flip, I asked him questions, he didn't answer them. Not to mention the ISO of Vee isn’t moving me to put him in town category. On top of that, Titus makes a believable case against Vee in 1652.
I have to admit, Aj’s part about scum being set back a day so we should not risk lynching him (if he’s really town PR), is a very moving argument that makes sense for town.

Anyway, Vee, these were my questions - why did you just sheep my wagon on d1? Because I was most likely to be lynched?
And how about for zak? Because he happened to be most likely to be lynched on d1?
Note - you mentioned at least one of us was "most likely to be lynched" when you voted us. I'm asking you to clarify. What was YOUR reason to vote me and zak.

1668 – Damn. After reading this from CDB, it makes me want to replace out. On the other hand, Aj is still incredibly young and if we don't give up on him (as a person), he could be less...bullheaded.
1678 – Titus comes across as a very abstract FM player. We should embrace her oddities because they can make things unexpected and therefore, very interesting
1692 – Ved , why! If you’re town, don’t give up . zak did this …not you too. Come on, man.

[talah]

Performer, I want specific answers to the questions I asked, because none of your crumbing or behaviour makes sense when you claim it was to draw a nightkill.

[Titus]

@Performer, Yes. Now stop buddying me. It's creepy.

[Performer]

Confession - my "awkward play" in d1, particularly the post toward Vee - done as a gambit attempt, to draw an

nk against me

This is why I wanted to draw so much attention on d1..
Obviously no one died, which makes me scratch my head....
I don't have enough time at the moment to follow-up on everything, as I have to head off to work in a bit

What was your strategy?

When did you realise it was failing?

What did you do when you realised that?

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Alright I'm out for tonight, will continue reading through what I already skimmed.

What was your strategy?
My strategy was being paranoid, asking Luna & choof about their misquotes, thinking they were a scum team. I talked about not wanting to to die at night. I thought the above actions would make scum think I'm a valued possession - therefore, they would eliminate me.

When did you realise it was failing?

When I saw too many people wagoning and misreading me, that’s when I realized I should tone down the paranoia.


What did you do when you realised that?
I did that by being a little less active with my paranoia. I didn't think the playstyle would draw that type of attention so fast, which wasn't what I wanted.
And when d2 news appeared on the laptop screen, I made a choice to stop the d1 playstyle because that would most likely hinder town's chance of winning. Luna, Ved, & Titus can attest to me telling the truth about a switch in playstyle midgame.
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@Titus whoa. Like Aj mentioned and like Ved did, I'm just trying to lighten the mood a bit

[talah]

And the crumbing? How did that fit in? It was one of the huge topics of discussion Day 1 and you avoided commenting on it aside from denying a killing role when pushed. So you were aware of it. What was going on in your mind when people were talking about you crumbing Vig, then PGO, then hider?

And can you clarify why you're saying you decided to lay of when "too many" people were wagonning and misreading you - but you're also saying you decided to change your playstyle at the start of Day 2? That's a direct contradiction.

[VeeGee]

basically your opinion is "Let's lynch town "

So if we have obvious scum, you think that this is the wrong attitude to have?
The fact that people diverting away from lynching AJ or either FN is what makes me concerned that there is an obvious scum in that section too trying to draw focus away.
(This means you or Sala, and I'm pretty sure Sala is town).

Okay.

Why should we lynch any claim today?

So anyone that claims won't get lynched today?
Seriously, you are coming across as a... No I can't say that, I'll get a finger wagged at me, but you can assume I'm not calling you a swell person.

Ou, so NOW you have manners. Where where they before?

[VeeGee]

Anyway, Vee, these were my questions - why did you just sheep my wagon on d1? Because I was most likely to be lynched?
And how about for zak? Because he happened to be most likely to be lynched on d1?
Note - you mentioned at least one of us was "most likely to be lynched" when you voted us. I'm asking you to clarify. What was YOUR reason to vote me and zak.

I'm pretty sure I had already answered this question multiple times already.

[VeeGee]

@Performer, Yes. Now stop buddying me. It's creepy.

You mean just like how you were D1?

[Salamence20]

Performer = Havingfitz?

[Titus]

@Veegee, why so nasty all of a sudden? I couldn't say why Performer was town because of an ongoing game that finished. That's different from Performer saying I ooze veteranness or whatever.

[I Am Innocent]

Here, and admitting I was purposely laying low/not casting a vote.

Inner struggle here, esp after last game when I claimed D2 and was then killed N2. I think I'm going to out some information I have about N1, but first I need everyone to claim if they have any role that would stop a kill. Bulletproof, Doctor, Jailkeeper, if a roleblocker wants to out themselves, have at it.

With a claimed 2 shot BP Doc, I don't expect anybody to disagree with this request.

Once everybody has answered this, I will stop being so mysterious.

PS - For the record, I have no ability that would have stopped any night kill.