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Post Post #1950 (ISO) » Fri Oct 09, 2015 1:53 pm

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In post 1945, Dwlee99 wrote:Untrod, who do YOU think is the scum team?
That should be the question~

honestly, you and someone else. not sure who, but I think you're scum based on your claim.

flavor cop is practically an alignment cop in this setup, so I'm not buying it, weak doc, and forensic investigator in the same setup. unlimited town flavor cop is INCREDIBLY OP in a mini if you can determine alignment based on mod-confirmed flavor.

and honestly I'm starting to think catboi makes a lot of sense with dw

PEdit hey what do you know the strongest player in the game is on board with me on that
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Post Post #1951 (ISO) » Fri Oct 09, 2015 1:55 pm

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In post 1950, Untrod Tripod wrote:
In post 1945, Dwlee99 wrote:Untrod, who do YOU think is the scum team?
That should be the question~

honestly, you and someone else. not sure who, but I think you're scum based on your claim.

flavor cop is practically an alignment cop in this setup, so I'm not buying it, weak doc, and forensic investigator in the same setup. unlimited town flavor cop is INCREDIBLY OP in a mini if you can determine alignment based on mod-confirmed flavor.

and honestly I'm starting to think catboi makes a lot of sense with dw

PEdit hey what do you know
the strongest player in the game
is on board with me on that


>.>

<.<

See now I feel bad for snapping at you.

I AM RELEASING MY ANGER, DON'T MAKE ME FEEL BAD FOR THISSSSSS

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Post Post #1952 (ISO) » Fri Oct 09, 2015 2:05 pm

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Anyway,

UT=Dwlee/Catboi (in that order for confidence of read, I think you've expressed etc)
Catboi=LLD/UT
LLD= Catboi/Dwlee

Shinobi=???
BBMolla=???
Dwlee=???
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Post Post #1953 (ISO) » Fri Oct 09, 2015 2:17 pm

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LLD/UT.

Thinking there may be a mafia member who comes up with a town flavor, it's possible.
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Post Post #1954 (ISO) » Fri Oct 09, 2015 2:23 pm

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haha lol she can't actually offer a rebuttal to my posts so she's ignoring them
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Post Post #1955 (ISO) » Fri Oct 09, 2015 2:27 pm

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In post 1954, catboi wrote:haha lol she can't actually offer a rebuttal to my posts so she's ignoring them


Why would I waste my time arguing with scum? what does that accomplish? I'm not here to convince you I need to lynch you.
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Post Post #1956 (ISO) » Fri Oct 09, 2015 2:28 pm

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In post 1953, Dwlee99 wrote:LLD/UT.

Thinking there may be a mafia member who comes up with a town flavor, it's possible.


I would like to remind people that these are the exact words I spoke in Mafia Behind the Maiden when I was a role cop pretending to be a country cop. The literal exact words.

Just so everyone's clear on what our "Flavour Cop" is trying to accomplish here.
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Post Post #1957 (ISO) » Fri Oct 09, 2015 2:34 pm

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In post 1955, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 1954, catboi wrote:haha lol she can't actually offer a rebuttal to my posts so she's ignoring them


Why would I waste my time arguing with scum? what does that accomplish? I'm not here to convince you I need to lynch you.

well I think you're avoiding them because you know I'm right and addressing them is going to drag you down, so you're resorting to BS emotional appeals in the hope that BBmolla pussies out because he doesn't want to upset you

I just showed Xtocm pretty clearly crumbed me as his N1 protect and there's really no other scenario that makes sense, you won't address that because it ruins the narrative you're trying to push
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Post Post #1958 (ISO) » Fri Oct 09, 2015 2:42 pm

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you showed biased opinions on nothing.

Who is to say he wasn't aiming to use his weak doctor as an investigation? Crumbing his scum reads so when and if he died, we'd know who he visited?

Who is to say he didn't visit some other townie night one, and then visited you the night he died, if we assume he's visiting his town reads?

You are making wild assumptions on the knowledge that you know the intent he used his role for, in an attempt to make yourself seem more town, which is something only scum do.

And this conversation we're having? you trying to draw me into a fight? it's to serve as a distraction so people go with their status quo feelings. You came into today so confident I would be lynched, now you're scrambling for ways to get me there.

It's almost like you want to keep the way things were, stagnancy is the weapon of scum.

Are you reading this, BBMolla? Shinobi? I'm writing this for you, not for him. It's important that you get the message.
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Post Post #1959 (ISO) » Fri Oct 09, 2015 2:49 pm

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Uh, no, you're proposing wild hypotheticals without any evidence in an attempt to stir up WIFOM because you don't have an actual argument and can't make one. I laid out solid-ass evidence that you're scum and that xtoxm crumbed clearing me. You can't so much as even counter with a plausible hypothetical.
A town player would absolutely go back and try to find a crumb from the weak doctor.
The fact that you try to push that aside in favor of your preconceived narrative is incredibly telling.

I'm mainly just highlighting the terrible weakness of everything you're arguing
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Post Post #1960 (ISO) » Fri Oct 09, 2015 3:01 pm

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I'm aware you're obliged per your role PM to say idiotic wrong things to try and win this game, but could you do it somewhere else? I think you're scum. You think I'm scum. This conversation holds no merit unless you are attempting to cause a huge multi page argument and stir me up, which will only cause apathy in the other voting players, which will cause them to fall back on original instinct, and you are convinced that instinct is that you are townier than I am.

I mean, that's why you're trying to lynch me and not UT today.

So please, if you would, go talk to someone who wants to hear your bullshit, and try to sell it to them. Maybe then they'll actually see how bad your posting really is.

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Post Post #1961 (ISO) » Fri Oct 09, 2015 3:52 pm

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K. I think you've done enough to hang yourself. Just wanted to hammer the point home.

BBmolla/Shinobi, if you're reading right now, please say something.
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Post Post #1962 (ISO) » Fri Oct 09, 2015 4:15 pm

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VOTE: LLD

The associative tells too strong.
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Post Post #1963 (ISO) » Fri Oct 09, 2015 4:24 pm

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In post 1961, catboi wrote:K. I think you've done enough to hang yourself. Just wanted to hammer the point home.

BBmolla/Shinobi, if you're reading right now, please say something.


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Post Post #1964 (ISO) » Fri Oct 09, 2015 4:26 pm

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Please read and tell me what you think. Everything else is less important than that.

If you think he could have possibly targeted someone else, tell me who.
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Post Post #1965 (ISO) » Fri Oct 09, 2015 4:30 pm

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In post 552, Xtoxm wrote:So yeah, i've not been able to give mafia the level of attention i'd have liked to this week.

Here's how i'm viewing the game:

Quilford
- The force replace and PC's reaction to it is enough for me to believe this slot is town.
I_Am_Not_Varsoon
- He felt town to me throughout, and his fading townread on me is consistent with a townie losing faith in an underwhelming player which is what I have been more recently; it is across the board and is a RL tell, unfortunately. He was also likely an early scum target.
catboi
- Mainly due Spiffeh that he's in the strong town read category, but his own play has been pretty solid too.
Dwlee99
- Play surrounding the PC wagon looked town, among other things.
Scorpious
- Felt town early on particularly with what he said about LLD, nothing since made me question the read (certainly not the drop off in activity that catboi suggests is scummy).
Yimmy
- This is more gut than anything, feels genuine, responses to pressure have not struck me as scum.
popsofctown
- So I was scumreading him early on and I think i've flipped on it, not completely attached to this new read but I think he may have towntelled. When I speculated on Vinkah scumslipping his reaction was very town, he thought about it in the same way that I did, and if he was scum it would have been very easy for him to attack me for 'weak reasoning', but that was not the path he took.
Vinkah
- Play doesn't scream town to me, claim is pretty oddball and basically the only reason i'm townreading him..I may or may not be onto something with the 'scumslip', but it's not overwhelmingly convincing, and not something I plan to deathtunnel someone over. Could do with expanding on the claim, which I don't understand the mechanics of and was never really explained in any detail, but i'm not in a rush to make that happen.
chamber
- Chamber and UT have failed to make any much of an impression at all on me which is a scumtell in itself; I expect at least one of these two are scum. Mild gut puts Chamber a shade more on the town side.
Untrod Tripod
- As above.
Shinobi
- Initially was townreading, then it faded, and more recently didn't like his reads list where all he really does is call a bunch of people town, and only attacks the two most passive and absent players in the game, looks like scum playing safe and avoiding conflict. Reminds me of a game I played as scum recently.
Lady Lambdadelta
- Over aggressive start to the game felt very faked, I think an attempt to earn some townreads. Attacked me for my vote on PC at a time when there was literally no reason for anyone other than scum to believe he was town, which i'm pretty sure is a scumtell. Overall not feeling genuine attempts to scumhunt from this slot, and would be my preferred lynch at this point.

here's a list of people he could have targeted
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Post Post #1966 (ISO) » Fri Oct 09, 2015 4:45 pm

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In post 1964, catboi wrote:Please read and tell me what you think. Everything else is less important than that.

If you think he could have possibly targeted someone else, tell me who.


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Post Post #1967 (ISO) » Fri Oct 09, 2015 4:46 pm

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Post Post #1968 (ISO) » Fri Oct 09, 2015 4:52 pm

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I don't know what your hangup is and I'm trying so hard to reach you
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Post Post #1969 (ISO) » Fri Oct 09, 2015 5:09 pm

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In post 1962, Dwlee99 wrote:VOTE: LLD

The associative tells too strong.


I know you're scum too, but for the class to see how scum you are, why don't you explain your associative tells for us~
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Post Post #1970 (ISO) » Fri Oct 09, 2015 5:11 pm

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In post 1968, catboi wrote:I don't know what your hangup is and I'm trying so hard to reach you


I already think you're town.
Why you're even wasting energy trying to look more town is whatever I guess.
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Post Post #1971 (ISO) » Fri Oct 09, 2015 5:16 pm

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I really don't have a clue what you're thinking is the thing, my assumption was you were hesitating because you were unsure about me. Can you at least tell me where your thoughts are?
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Post Post #1972 (ISO) » Fri Oct 09, 2015 5:24 pm

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In post 1970, Shinobi wrote:
In post 1968, catboi wrote:I don't know what your hangup is and I'm trying so hard to reach you


I already think you're town.
Why you're even wasting energy trying to look more town is whatever I guess.


Cause he's scum. Obviously.
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Post Post #1973 (ISO) » Fri Oct 09, 2015 5:26 pm

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In post 1970, Shinobi wrote:
In post 1968, catboi wrote:I don't know what your hangup is and I'm trying so hard to reach you


I already think you're town.
Why you're even wasting energy trying to look more town is whatever I guess.


Scum are far more interested in showing you just how townie they are.
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Post Post #1974 (ISO) » Fri Oct 09, 2015 5:26 pm

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