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Post Post #700 (ISO) » Sat Oct 10, 2015 12:49 am

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In post 673, Lying Cat wrote:I'm splitting this into two posts, because there's really two different concerns here. First your initial behavior and defense thereof. But you weren't putting pressure on Ved at that point. The wagon had already derailed, and you hadn't mentioned him in pages. On the other hand, you were pushing hard at both ETL and farside, but voting neither of them. I'll admit that getting a wagon on ETL would have been difficult, but there was more than enough tacit support for a farside wagon at the time. Your actions support a farside scumread over a Vedith one, but your vote doesn't.

So we agree ETL would be a hard wagon.
You point out a Farside lynch option - I counter with "Farside is lurking out, so pressure wagon on the slot is kinda pointless"
You also, otherwise, at best are complaining that I'm scumhunting multiple people at once and acting like it's an issue for some reason.

In post 673, Lying Cat wrote:For reference, what is your thought process on why someone posting elsewhere but not here makes them scum?

It's conscious avoidance of thread.
The only reason to do that is because you don't care about scumhunting in this game or are trying to lay low - both are worthy of lynching.

In post 673, Lying Cat wrote:Also, are you admitting to overstating your read on Vedith and were voting for pressure? Or at least to misrepresenting your reads?

I am not admitting to anything - I am pointing out how badly you misunderstand how I play when pressing this rather odd meta based case. Are you claiming that I *don't* do the thing I said I do in other games?
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Post Post #701 (ISO) » Sat Oct 10, 2015 12:52 am

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In post 674, Lying Cat wrote:Is the supposition here that it is impossible to follow a logical progression and be wrong?

No - the supposition is that you don't look at an incorrect logical progression and see town intent.

In post 674, Lying Cat wrote:Or that you cannot see town intent in something that is wrong?

Yes, and that you would not then hold it up as an example of towniness.

In post 674, Lying Cat wrote: In that vein, I notice you have not yet called me scum. What is your read on me?

I'm not sure yet.
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Post Post #702 (ISO) » Sat Oct 10, 2015 12:56 am

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Unvote: Ank
Vote: Davsto
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Post Post #703 (ISO) » Sat Oct 10, 2015 1:01 am

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Oh joys, I'm guessing you're just gonna parrot Wingback's reasons if I ask you?

inb4 Hecatia jumps onto me to because "Sakura changed her mind"
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Post Post #704 (ISO) » Sat Oct 10, 2015 1:16 am

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I'm kinda tempted to just claim now before the wagon slowly builds on me and then we run out of time and thus can't get a wagon actually on scum.

Thoughts on this idea?
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Post Post #705 (ISO) » Sat Oct 10, 2015 1:46 am

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In post 703, Davsto wrote:Oh joys, I'm guessing you're just gonna parrot Wingback's reasons if I ask you?

inb4 Hecatia jumps onto me to because "Sakura changed her mind"

In post 704, Davsto wrote:I'm kinda tempted to just claim now before the wagon slowly builds on me and then we run out of time and thus can't get a wagon actually on scum.

Thoughts on this idea?
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Post Post #706 (ISO) » Sat Oct 10, 2015 1:47 am

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In post 703, Davsto wrote:Oh joys, I'm guessing you're just gonna parrot Wingback's reasons if I ask you?

Yes, I would do exactly that.
Are you claiming those thoughts are so unsheepable as to be laughable?

In post 704, Davsto wrote:I'm kinda tempted to just claim now before the wagon slowly builds on me and then we run out of time and thus can't get a wagon actually on scum.

Thoughts on this idea?

I support this, of course I support multiple Day 1 claims and am voting you, so maybe I'm biased.
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Post Post #707 (ISO) » Sat Oct 10, 2015 1:51 am

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No, I was just wondering if I would get anything out of you, alignment-wise, by looking at your reads. Knowing that you are sheeping them means that I would be wasting my time by interrogating.

My role isn't that good anyway (and I'm not supertown) so I'm not really scared about being nightkilled.

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The Birds, Ascetic Jailkeeper.


I was thinking of claiming the Ascetic part anyway today to avoid town timewasting but since I have a power role along with it I decided I'd rather not advertise that the Mafia can kill me without me being Doctored.
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Post Post #708 (ISO) » Sat Oct 10, 2015 1:55 am

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Inb4 hiplop counterclaim.
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Post Post #709 (ISO) » Sat Oct 10, 2015 1:56 am

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Yeh, the whole squawking thing confused me at first because it looked like they were crumbing my role.
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Post Post #710 (ISO) » Sat Oct 10, 2015 1:57 am

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Why didn't you vote him?
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Post Post #711 (ISO) » Sat Oct 10, 2015 1:57 am

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In post 14, Davsto wrote:VOTE: Cataphant
I hate cats.
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Post Post #712 (ISO) » Sat Oct 10, 2015 1:58 am

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Actually, I guess you did.

Unvote: Davsto
Vote: Ank


Okay, I'll buy the name at least.
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Post Post #713 (ISO) » Sat Oct 10, 2015 1:58 am

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Wait - why did you ever unvote him?
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Post Post #714 (ISO) » Sat Oct 10, 2015 1:59 am

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I figured there was more than enough of a chance that they were just a person who squawked randomly, and I didn't feel like revealing my role
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early on a minor technicality though.
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Post Post #715 (ISO) » Sat Oct 10, 2015 2:26 am

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Eh, that sounds weak, but the roleclaim is pretty dumb if you're scum.

Vote Ank with me?
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Post Post #716 (ISO) » Sat Oct 10, 2015 2:31 am

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In post 715, Thor665 wrote:Eh, that sounds weak, but the roleclaim is pretty dumb if you're scum.

Vote Ank with me?

Well the thing is that, if they were scum, they have no reason to actually crumb a role that isn't theirs because roles are not indicative of alignment (as I know), unless all the scum happened to be named after antagonists and they were worried, but in that case they wouldn't be crumbing The Birds, they'd be crumbing a protagonist.

And I'm still not sold on Ank.
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Post Post #717 (ISO) » Sat Oct 10, 2015 2:36 am

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Why did you pick a villain character as your role choice?
Also, what is the fluff for the jailing?
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Post Post #718 (ISO) » Sat Oct 10, 2015 2:41 am

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Because The Birds were the only thing from Hitchcock movies that I knew and could name. I chose the other two literally by going onto Wikipedia and looking at Hitchcock's filmography, and picking two random films and two people who looked neat.

As for the fluff, it's incredibly vague and I'm not really sure how the quotes relate to the actual abilities. I'm gonna skirt around it here and get clarification from Antihero to see how specific I can get with paraphrasing when it comes to my Role PM without being modkilled or the like.

@Antihero - how specific can I get with paraphrasing when it comes to my Role PM without being modkilled or the like?
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Post Post #719 (ISO) » Sat Oct 10, 2015 2:42 am

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In post 1, Antihero wrote:You are allowed to paraphrase, but you are not allowed to plagiarize. If in doubt as to your paraphrase's legality, PM me with the wording you want to use.
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Post Post #720 (ISO) » Sat Oct 10, 2015 2:48 am

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Alright, I'll PM Antihero the wording I would use, and get back to you when I can on that one.
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Post Post #721 (ISO) » Sat Oct 10, 2015 3:33 am

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Approved.

Each attribute/ability has a quote related to it, presumably from the Hitchcock film The Birds. The quote for the Jailkeeper part relates to there being many different types of birds, and the Ascetic quote relates to there being a fuckton of birds in terms of numbers.

If I had to guess how the abilities function in regards to these, I'd assume that the Jailkeeping is swarming a player so they cannot move or be killed, and that the Ascetic part is that there are so many birds in the world that you cannot target them. However, nothing to this kind of thing is explicitly stated in the PM; this is just me guessing how the abilities relate to the role.
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Post Post #722 (ISO) » Sat Oct 10, 2015 3:35 am

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yeah -- not lynching davsto -- EVER


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Post Post #723 (ISO) » Sat Oct 10, 2015 3:49 am

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i wasted time
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i think i thought myself to death
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