Mini 1714: Justified Season 2 Mafia (Endgame)

Dwlee99 · Post Post #2000 (ISO) » Sat Oct 10, 2015 4:43 am

In post 1992, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:So what you're saying is, to make something fit your narrow view, you'll assume the worst of 2 opponents (Myself and Varsoon) instead of the Occam's Razor solution that it is unlikely this kind of interaction occurs between two scum?

I want your written confirmation of this, since it's effectively a confession of being scum. That's what you're saying right?

Well neither Catboi or Shinobi can be scum because I have investigation results on them which leaves You, UT, and BBMolla. Molla is the most likely to be town because of their play leaving you and UT. I am using the one with least assumptions.

catboi · Post Post #2001 (ISO) » Sat Oct 10, 2015 4:43 am

Oh, for sure

Lady Lambdadelta · Post Post #2002 (ISO) » Sat Oct 10, 2015 4:46 am

In post 2000, Dwlee99 wrote:
In post 1992, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:So what you're saying is, to make something fit your narrow view, you'll assume the worst of 2 opponents (Myself and Varsoon) instead of the Occam's Razor solution that it is unlikely this kind of interaction occurs between two scum?

I want your written confirmation of this, since it's effectively a confession of being scum. That's what you're saying right?

Well neither Catboi or Shinobi can be scum because I have investigation results on them which leaves You, UT, and BBMolla. Molla is the most likely to be town because of their play leaving you and UT. I am using the one with least assumptions.

Oh?

Weren't you the one talking earlier about how maybe there was a scum player with a town flavour? Like a godfather?

So why change that assumption now, why are you SO CERTAIN?

Lady Lambdadelta · Post Post #2003 (ISO) » Sat Oct 10, 2015 4:47 am

Like, all I can do is hope that Shinobi and BBMolla see the hole you two are digging yourselves and come to the correct conclusion. I can only do so much to outline your lies.

catboi · Post Post #2004 (ISO) » Sat Oct 10, 2015 4:54 am

Oh, for sure

Untrod Tripod · Post Post #2005 (ISO) » Sat Oct 10, 2015 4:55 am

SHINE THE MOLLA SIGNAL

GET IN HERE BRO

Dwlee99 · Post Post #2006 (ISO) » Sat Oct 10, 2015 5:05 am

In post 2002, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 2000, Dwlee99 wrote:
In post 1992, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:So what you're saying is, to make something fit your narrow view, you'll assume the worst of 2 opponents (Myself and Varsoon) instead of the Occam's Razor solution that it is unlikely this kind of interaction occurs between two scum?

I want your written confirmation of this, since it's effectively a confession of being scum. That's what you're saying right?

Well neither Catboi or Shinobi can be scum because I have investigation results on them which leaves You, UT, and BBMolla. Molla is the most likely to be town because of their play leaving you and UT. I am using the one with least assumptions.

Oh?

Weren't you the one talking earlier about how maybe there was a scum player with a town flavour? Like a godfather?

So why change that assumption now, why are you SO CERTAIN?

Because of your play right now. I'm less sure about UT being scum but meh.

catboi · Post Post #2007 (ISO) » Sat Oct 10, 2015 5:12 am

for the record if you actually doubt it (you shouldn't, everything she says is garbage) my argument against a scum role having town flavor is that it would largely invalidate the purpose of a flavor cop, and Quilford's role already exists to potentially affect investigation results

catboi · Post Post #2008 (ISO) » Sat Oct 10, 2015 5:48 am

In post 1942, Untrod Tripod wrote:I think you're jumping to conclusions to make yourself "confirmed" with the weak doc, but since I'm townreading you it doesn't really seem worth the argument

Thought that just occurred to me: if you're townreading me, why have you completely avoided engaging with/discussing my case on lambda?

Untrod Tripod · Post Post #2009 (ISO) » Sat Oct 10, 2015 6:05 am

I've played enough with LLD to know not to get between her and whoever she's arguing with

catboi · Post Post #2010 (ISO) » Sat Oct 10, 2015 6:15 am

That's not what I'm asking whatsoever. I made a case, with arguments. You've avoided them. It makes no sense to me why you'd do this.

If I'm your townread, why the hell do you ignore what I'm pushing on in MYLO? You should absolutely care about who I'm voting. If you really townread me, why haven't you read my arguments?

Like, if someone I townread was pushing a vote in lylo, I'd read what they said and decide whether or not I agree. If I agreed, I'd follow. If I disagreed, I'd try to tell them why I disagree.

You've done neither. What are you even doing right now?

catboi · Post Post #2011 (ISO) » Sat Oct 10, 2015 6:17 am

I just can't for the life of me fathom why you'd ignore what a townread is aying in mylo - not saying I expect agreement, but your complete refusal to even consider the discussion of LLD as scum makes absolutely no sense

catboi · Post Post #2012 (ISO) » Sat Oct 10, 2015 6:20 am

"I think you're town but I'm not going to pay any attention to the case you're making because ?????"

Untrod Tripod · Post Post #2013 (ISO) » Sat Oct 10, 2015 6:35 am

I'm mostly super confused by you right now because dw is almost DEFINITELY scum based on his claim, but you're just focusing on hard defending him and trying to use his claimed results to clear your alignment

it seems like you're a pretty bright player, so I really don't understand why you're just completely failing to get this unless it's just that you're scum

catboi · Post Post #2014 (ISO) » Sat Oct 10, 2015 6:45 am

Well I also explained why I think that's unlikely and you've ignored that too.

But you're trying to change the subject. Whether or not dwlee is scum, really, isn't relevant to my case on Lambda. You don't seem to want to comment on it. Why?

catboi · Post Post #2015 (ISO) » Sat Oct 10, 2015 6:49 am

Unless you have strong reason to believe dwlee/lambda is an impossible pairing, you have no excuse for ignoring my read there.

Regardless, if you think I'm town (and I am), you absolutely need my vote. So why would you not discuss what I'm doing with me?

Untrod Tripod · Post Post #2016 (ISO) » Sat Oct 10, 2015 6:50 am

In post 2014, catboi wrote:Well I also explained why I think that's unlikely and you've ignored that too.

Well I also explained why I think that's unlikely and you've ignored that too.

that's nice. I think you're wrong.

Untrod Tripod · Post Post #2017 (ISO) » Sat Oct 10, 2015 6:51 am

In post 2014, catboi wrote:But you're trying to change the subject. Whether or not dwlee is scum, really, isn't relevant to my case on Lambda. You don't seem to want to comment on it. Why?

I literally just fucking said. I find you to be a far likelier pairing with dw than LLD is

Untrod Tripod · Post Post #2018 (ISO) » Sat Oct 10, 2015 6:52 am

you can't just fucking say "oh you're trying to change the subject. oh I already explained this. oh why won't you engage with my case."

that's gish gallup bullshit and I'm not interested.

Untrod Tripod · Post Post #2019 (ISO) » Sat Oct 10, 2015 6:56 am

like, your deductions are fine in and of themselves, but they come from the faulty premise that dw is town. based on his claim HE ISN'T and the fact that everyone here who has any kind of experience with designing games (me molla and lld) has realized this should mean something to you

but it doesn't because you're just trying to push this narrative because you KNOW if you step back and reexamine it your whole argument falls apart

catboi · Post Post #2020 (ISO) » Sat Oct 10, 2015 6:58 am

You think I'm wrong but have said you think I'm town (except somehow more likely to be scum with dwlee than LLD???), but also will not try to persuade me at all? Okay.

and no, when I say "why are you ignoring my case on LLD" and your response is to go "WELL WHAT ABOUT DWLEE HES DEFINITELY SCUM", that's changing the subject. It's a continued refusal to respond to what I'm saying and it makes NO sense. Why's it so hard to for you to say either "I think you're right" or "I think you are wrong because _______"?

Untrod Tripod · Post Post #2021 (ISO) » Sat Oct 10, 2015 6:59 am

In post 2020, catboi wrote:when I say "why are you ignoring my case on LLD"

BECAUSE I THINK THE SCUMTEAM IS YOU AND DWLEE HOLY FUCKING SHIT ARE YOU EVEN READING THE FUCKING GAME BEFORE YOU POST

catboi · Post Post #2022 (ISO) » Sat Oct 10, 2015 7:00 am

In post 2019, Untrod Tripod wrote:like, your deductions are fine in and of themselves, but they come from the faulty premise that dw is town. based on his claim HE ISN'T and the fact that everyone here who has any kind of experience with designing games (me molla and lld) has realized this should mean something to you

but it doesn't because you're just trying to push this narrative because you KNOW if you step back and reexamine it your whole argument falls apart

Nope. The largest point of my deductions are based on the interactions between NotVarsoon and LLD that clearly make them partners. It has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with the assumption that Dwlee is town.

Have you actually read them? I'm getting the impression you haven't.

Untrod Tripod · Post Post #2023 (ISO) » Sat Oct 10, 2015 7:00 am

we're done here

molla and shin need to get in here and contribute

catboi · Post Post #2024 (ISO) » Sat Oct 10, 2015 7:01 am

In post 2021, Untrod Tripod wrote:
In post 2020, catboi wrote:when I say "why are you ignoring my case on LLD"

BECAUSE I THINK THE SCUMTEAM IS YOU AND DWLEE HOLY FUCKING SHIT ARE YOU EVEN READING THE FUCKING GAME BEFORE YOU POST

Really? That's funny as hell when you were claiming to townread me literally one day ago and didn't seem to disagree when I quoted it on this page