Mini 1717 Alfred Hitchcock UPick [GAME OVER]

[Thor665]

I, uh... Let's see here. There are two known quantities here. Scum have a ninja and a backup ninja. Whenever the third member of their team flips, I will be confirmed town by virtue of the fact that my role is confirmable. Also worth noting, the only purpose my claim would have is to help scum determine whether I'm a higher priority kill than either of the other claimed PRs.

If you believe this - shouldn't you be advocating a mass claim?

[Thor665]

The Mafia will have a player with the Ninja modifier and one with a Back-up Ninja modifier. These only apply to the factional kill.

This is a claim of *modifier* not of *role*.

So...I'm not getting where you're coming from, Cat.
Talk me through it?

[Concrete Angels]

Hi Thor.

[Thor665]

Hello?

[Concrete Angels]

Who would you lynch besides LC?

How do you feel about Catapants

[Davsto]

Prodge. Still satisfied by Lying Cat lynch, this real vagueness seems to be going nowhere.

[Concrete Angels]

Prodge. Still satisfied by Lying Cat lynch, this real vagueness seems to be going nowhere.

I'd prefer not to lynch him today. Tomorrow may be a different story. Where else would you be willing to vote?

[Davsto]

Pistach, as I've stated numerous times.

[Wingback]

I was considering whether or not to claim but I suspect the LC votes might trail off and I don't have time to check in tonight.

I will partially claim.

I am not a VT.

With my role, Hecatia's, and Davsto's, it is very unlikely LC has some sort of "confirmable" role. Their behavior points heavily to scum. I don't buy their soft-claim. They better get lynched today.

[farside22]

Are you null on the others?

Leaning town

Anka
Thor
Wing


I read dav was a pr but I haven't got there.
He's a scum lean.

[Concrete Angels]

With my role, Hecatia's, and Davsto's, it is very unlikely LC has some sort of "confirmable" role.

Why is that?

And why are you suddenly half-claiming for no good reason? It doesn't help anything. At all. Unless you are some kind of genius regarding Antihero games and how he creates them, and what he intended for this setup, your opinion about whether it makes sense or not is - no offense - worthless.

[Concrete Angels]

Pistach, as I've stated numerous times.

Then vote with me there.

[Wingback]

I'm not an expert on Antihero games but I expect mafia games in general to be balanced. I don't buy that the two roles outed, my role, and another confirmable role all exist in the game.

You are making me very suspicious with this last minute defense on Lying Cat.

Explain how you got to me as town please. Do you normally accuse your townreads of "making noises?"

[Davsto]

I will partially claim.

I am not a VT.

Is this even slightly a surprise, supposed to be one, etc? It's a UPick game, of course you're not gonna be a VT.

[Thor665]

Who would you lynch besides LC?

That is a broad question, for the actual specific of who I'd *like* to lynch besides him, Ank.
For the 'who would you be willing to lynch; anyone I haven't listed as a town read recently.

How do you feel about Catapants

Pretty 'meh' at the moment, but a lynch there mostly just feels like 'lynch the twerpy player' which, while I'm not exactly against, I'm not exactly salivating over either. I'd vote him for the lark, I guess, but I'd rather vote the slot trying to buy their way into a second day off a half claim, a half read rule, and an apparent total lack of fear of scum having any interference roles or of you being scum or both.

[Davsto]

Pistach, as I've stated numerous times.

Then vote with me there.

but we need to be fast because we only have ten fucking hours left until DL, I'm not fancying a last minute wagon change.

[Wingback]

I will partially claim.

I am not a VT.

Is this even slightly a surprise, supposed to be one, etc? It's a UPick game, of course you're not gonna be a VT.

Did Antihero state that it was role madness?

[Davsto]

I've not played much UPick, but I'm pretty sure that VT is a fairly bum draw. I don't know.

[Thor665]

Ankamius - 1 (Vedith)
Cataphant - 1 (Ankamius)
Hecatia Lapislazuli - 2 (massive, pistachi0n)
Lying Cat - 5 (Thor665, Wingback, Davsto, Nachomamma8, Hecatia Lapislazuli,

Cataphant

)
Nachomamma8 - 1
pistachi0n - 2 (Cataphant, Concrete Angels)
Thor665 - 1 (Lying Cat)

Not Voting: farside22[/quote]
About two days left.

Ank is doing spit all with his wagon on Cat.
Lying Cat is doing spit all with his wagon on me (in a shock to...no one)
Vedith is doing spit all with the ank vote, though did go with a hammer intent, so not really bothered there as much.
CA is at least vaguely thrashing the Pistach wagon.
Massive and Pistach are sitting quietly on Hecatia, as though that fething matters.

Hecatia wagoners need to talk up or move.
Single wagon derp heads should have been off those wagons yesterday.

[Davsto]

But I'm preferring Lying Cat. Last-minute wagon changes worry me.

[Thor665]

But I'm preferring Lying Cat. Last-minute wagon changes worry me.

The Lying Cat wagon happened yesterday - what qualifies that one as not last minute and a wagon today as last minute?
Your breaking point is 3+ days till deadline 'good' and >3 days 'bad'?

[Concrete Angels]

I'm not fancying a last minute wagon change.

Right, because a flash wagon on LC in the last 24 hours is A-OK.

Wingback - think about why you decided to claim, and consider why I might think it's nonsense.

The reason I'm pushing against the LC wagon is because I'd rather lynch pistachi0n, I want to give LC at least one day to show me something and I don't like how quickly it grew. I don't agree with the cases on the slot really at all. I think they could apply to pretty much any other player here.

p-edit: Wow Thor is saying the same thing I am. Has hell frozen over?

[Wingback]

I won't be supporting a Pistachi0n lynch today.

Before anyone decides to hop off of the Lying Cat wagon, considers the circumstances here: Lying Cat gets wagoned to L-2, they soft-claim some vague role. Then Cataphant votes them. Then they soft-claim again. Then Cataphant unvotes and votes Pistachi0n for no reason at all. It looks like last minute bussing and playing with momentun to direct it in Lying Cat's favor. Town moves in packs. And a vote + unvote is more likely to get other town to unvote than not voting at all. Nothing actually happened. Lying Cat didn't claim anything.

If they full claim every aspect of their role, I may be willing to switch, but there is not a snowball's chance in hell I'm unvoting and voting a different wagon just because they gave vague hints as to their role.

If Lying Cat claims, I'm switching to Cataphant, not Pistachi0n. I've been observing Hiplop over the last few days. He's had plenty of time to be on the site but his catchup is underwhelming and his vote + unvote looks like a last minute bus and then making it seem like Lying Cat's soft-claim has credence.

[Thor665]

Oh, and to whoever was wondering about the LC wagon (which I think is Vedith, who offered hammer intent...?)
Here's the short and sweet.

Gut.

Here's the long and drawn out.

He has been sitting with a vote on me, poking me, and trying to enrage me emotionally to 'read' me and has literally I don't think voted anyone else or even really engaged anyone else (not even to exhort them to vote me) so, basically he's doing nothing, hunting nothing, and voting nothing, while claiming that he's deeply scumhunting me. I'm pretty sure that's either a lie, or a useless player, and I don't think Jingle is a useless player.

[Wingback]

But I'm preferring Lying Cat. Last-minute wagon changes worry me.

I prefer Lying Cat because they're scum, not because lollastminutechanges.