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Post Post #725 (ISO) » Thu Oct 15, 2015 3:32 pm

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Nero, your implication that I'm trying to deceive T-Bone is insulting to
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1) T-Bone is not an idiot. He can analyze this trade himself. If he didn't think it improved his chances of avoiding relegation (which is his stated goal in our conversations, and which I think is fair given his position), he wouldn't have agreed to it.

2) I've written out my rationale for why I think the trade improves T-Bone's chances of avoiding relegation. You may not agree with it; fantasy is a game of making predictions, so that's expected. I think Stevie Johnson is likely to see his targets remain roughly the same. Targets he loses to Gates will be made up for my targets he gains from Rivers passing more, since the Chargers have not had an effective running game with Gordon losing two fumbles in five games and Danny Woodhead being Danny Woodhead. I also see him as a far more consistent player than other options on T-Bone's team. Torrey Smith has always been boom-or-bust, and he lost me plenty of games while on my team in past seasons as a result. Ginn Jr is fortunate he's on a team where he's the least shitty receiver, but when he doesn't find the end zone, he's not going to score well. In his last game he had three targets and only two catches. He has caught less than half of his targets on the year. Johnson, for comparison's sake, has caught over 70%. Ted Ginn is not a viable NFL wide receiver, and he would not be starting on most other teams. He's a good return specialist, but not a WR. He's not going to continue his pace to catch 9 more touchdowns this season. Never going to happen.

Sankey is easily the most likely on that committee to gain a more clear starting role, in my opinion. Time will tell on that, but I think he'll return RB2 value over time.

And I think you over-estimate the gap between Gore and Peterson. Gore has looked very good in his past three games and he's been trending upward. Peterson is another level, definitely, but Gore is an RB1.

To be very clear, as I said earlier,
I do believe I'm getting the better end of this trade
, but I also believe T-Bone's team is made better by it. Mine is just made "more" better, mostly due to my stupidly large depth at WR. What is a viable WR2/3 on most teams is a WR5 for me.

Trading an elite RB1 and two throw-aways for an RB1, a WR2/3, and a RB2/3 is not a fundamentally unbalanced trade. That's what I see as happening here. I'd be very disappointed if others decided to join you in voting to supplant the opinion of both team owners on this trade, but I'll step away from this discussion now. I did feel the need to defend my integrity on this trade, but I'll let whatever will happen happen.
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Post Post #726 (ISO) » Thu Oct 15, 2015 3:34 pm

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On a separate note, I have a maybe unorthodox trade offering for y'all. If anyone in L1 would like Ryan Tannehill, I'm trading him for a top 3 kicker. I'm willing to toss in my kicker, who's not half bad, as well.
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Post Post #727 (ISO) » Thu Oct 15, 2015 6:50 pm

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In post 718, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 713, PokerFace wrote:
Nero Cain wrote:I think that is immensely fair in hindsight.

only in hindsight?

The timing of our trade was poor for both of us as luck went injury prone for me and zach had to play mcfadden
(dion was on bye and millar played an early game in london, seriously why was a divisional rivalry fought accross the ocean) So we both had to scramble our rosters on sunday. I had to start bridgewater against denver which could have gone very bad for me)

I made the trade as I felt freeman was going to be good immediatly (not as good as he is but still good) and dion was on bye and I felt I didn't know what to expect for his workload given blounts return and Bellicheck's shrewdness. Figured he would be new shane vereen of patriots/ I also thought luck would be there for me and I really felt wierd sitting him as I felt i would regret it

I thought bridgewater would be good and still feel he will. Though I did drop him as Bortles is looking good and has alot of matchups coming where he will have to pass alot to give his team a fighting chance.

Zach said he made the trade as he needed a qb since his main one went down. I don't know how he felt about freeman or lewis

I think the trade was fair. Hindsight says you prob got the better end of the deal but no one had any idea that Freeman would be the starter once Coleman came back.


I actually had a pretty good idea what I had with Freeman. The problem for me was that I suddenly got desperate at QB. (The situation that prompted the trade was unique in going deficit at QB in a league that has a promotion/relegation system. If I wasn't under any threat of relegation, I would not have made that trade.)

In hindsight I probably should have just rolled with freeman and what I had, but having Lewis and a good backup qb won't hurt my team going forward, especially if I get Jeffery healthy.
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Post Post #728 (ISO) » Thu Oct 15, 2015 7:06 pm

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On another note I don't know what it is, but I seem to have horrible luck getting any kind of production out of my receiving core.
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Post Post #729 (ISO) » Thu Oct 15, 2015 8:11 pm

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Post Post #730 (ISO) » Fri Oct 16, 2015 2:49 am

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Post Post #731 (ISO) » Fri Oct 16, 2015 1:06 pm

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for what it's worth, fantasy is a lot more fun if you actually allow trades.
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Post Post #732 (ISO) » Fri Oct 16, 2015 2:10 pm

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The subtext there is mandatory trades. Everyone needs to make at least two trades by week 6!
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Post Post #733 (ISO) » Fri Oct 16, 2015 2:53 pm

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In post 711, Kublai Khan wrote:I wish to trade teams with Wraith.
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Post Post #734 (ISO) » Fri Oct 16, 2015 8:33 pm

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When I made my trade I thought we would both get better and I think we are now. Freeman is very good. Better than I thought he would be. Lewis is good and still getting lots of action. He is their new shane Vereen. Palmer is good and cardinals got chance at superbowl with that defense and offense

I thought freeman would remain starter given his change on the depth chart after his first break out game. The type of injury coleman had gave me the impression he would be out awhile. Kyle Shanahan's offense style and how he handle's runningbacks led me to believe freeman would truly get the opportunity to flourish while coleman was out. And he did

I never thought of the rejection process as a means to stop collusion. Mostly because I don't play with people that blatantly collude. I don't think anyone would evr want to collude here given the promotion and regulation system. Using the reject only to stop collusion makes sense with what you guys are saying. So yay rob getting part of deal, but no reject should be done
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Post Post #735 (ISO) » Sat Oct 17, 2015 4:27 pm

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In post 733, Kublai Khan wrote:
In post 711, Kublai Khan wrote:I wish to trade teams with Wraith.


Khan, you just don't understand the pressure winning consistently puts on you. Trust me, you don't want to subject yourself to that kind of stress.
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Post Post #736 (ISO) » Sat Oct 17, 2015 6:05 pm

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In post 735, Wraith wrote:
In post 733, Kublai Khan wrote:
In post 711, Kublai Khan wrote:I wish to trade teams with Wraith.


Khan, you just don't understand the pressure winning consistently puts on you. Trust me, you don't want to subject yourself to that kind of stress.


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Post Post #737 (ISO) » Sat Oct 17, 2015 6:32 pm

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In news related to blatant advertising, I have a setup in the micro queue at the moment. If you want to kick each other's asses in Mafia as well as FF, feel free to go take a look. It's an open setup called Double Day Unlimited.
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Post Post #738 (ISO) » Sat Oct 17, 2015 7:54 pm

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In post 694, D3f3nd3r wrote:Then why sign up?

We tried to help you out and we got ignored.

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Post Post #739 (ISO) » Sun Oct 18, 2015 3:57 am

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Yuriko, If you can get to the "My Team" tab and look under the "Projected Points" column, that will give you an idea about who should play. The numbers change each week based on if the player has a good matchup and has been playing well. If they have a 0.00 there it means they are injured or their team doesn't play a game that week. DeSean Jackson is injured so you should try to switch him with Pierre Garcon by clicking the WR and BN next to their names.
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Post Post #740 (ISO) » Sun Oct 18, 2015 6:35 am

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Adrian Peterson's current stat line: 7 carries, 1 yard

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Post Post #741 (ISO) » Sun Oct 18, 2015 8:56 am

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The line got better, but Lamar Miller finally had a good game, and would rather have that in hindsight now.
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Post Post #742 (ISO) » Sun Oct 18, 2015 10:12 am

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Oh man this is gonna be close, Yiley.
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Post Post #743 (ISO) » Sun Oct 18, 2015 10:36 am

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And it turns out Cobb's being useless again is going to put me at 2-4 and probably end my season.
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Post Post #744 (ISO) » Sun Oct 18, 2015 10:39 am

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Oh man look at me bench Torrey Smith and he's having a big game....
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Post Post #745 (ISO) » Sun Oct 18, 2015 1:17 pm

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D3f3nd3r wrote:And it turns out Cobb's being useless again is going to put me at 2-4 and probably end my season.

I have seen people (including myself) go 8-6 and make the playoffs. I have seen those same people win it all. Unless you are in a stacked division, 2-4 still has a chance
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Post Post #746 (ISO) » Sun Oct 18, 2015 1:33 pm

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In post 741, Zachrulez wrote:The line got better, but Lamar Miller finally had a good game, and would rather have that in hindsight now.

You probably got best running back group in the league now. I kinda wish I had given up yeldon instead of lewis. I'd have that title if I did.
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Post Post #747 (ISO) » Sun Oct 18, 2015 1:40 pm

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In post 745, PokerFace wrote:
D3f3nd3r wrote:And it turns out Cobb's being useless again is going to put me at 2-4 and probably end my season.

I have seen people (including myself) go 8-6 and make the playoffs. I have seen those same people win it all. Unless you are in a stacked division, 2-4 still has a chance


IIRC one of those teams beat me in the L3 Championship last year (I was 12-2 with a dream team). It was like Fantasy Super Bowl XLII.
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Post Post #748 (ISO) » Sun Oct 18, 2015 1:51 pm

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Yay you had an awesome team last year. Flameaxe also had an awesome team, but one of the worst schedules ever. I believe he had most points scored against him for the majority of the year.

I've got a good team this year. Better than the team I had last year, but I'm in a much tougher division and league this year. You and Yiley may be the death of me this year. At least one of you has to beat the other this week
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Post Post #749 (ISO) » Sun Oct 18, 2015 1:57 pm

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And in case anyone was wondering, yes I started Blake Bortles over Andrew Luck today. Some people talked about Luck not starting tonight and since he has a bad record with colts vs pats anyway I figured I'd rather go with Bortles. Bortles was projected to get 18.?? and luck was projected to get 22.?? and since Bortles already got 25.??, I don't feel bad about making that choice
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