Mini 1732 - Super Smash Bros. Project M(afia) - D7!

[Davsto]

well you (obviously) but Lickety is rubbing me the wrong way too and I think you're both scum but I really don't see you both being scum.
Don't currently have a third. Will have no time to stuff tomorrow morning so expect some more in a longer while.

[smiffle]

All VT's should claim BTW.

I'm VT.

No, its a bad play. Interesting that you comment on it so after the fact.

ofc I'm trolling. Why do you ask?

What if I'm jester or something?

Pretty early to be sure, wouldn't you say?

BTW how the heck would you know I'm scum with no meta on me based on the way I have played so far?

Stop saying I'm obvtown unless you don't care if I get NKed early.

You can't be serious with this. I'f I am not playing a game solvey playstyle I don't know what is! I'm actually trying to play as obtown as possible.

That last quote is pretty clearly contradictory with the others, but IMO it reads like Lickety's trying to get noticed contradicting himself. If we lynch him and he's a jester, would that end the game? If so, I'd rather that people with percentage abilities pseudo-vig him.

Either way though, I'd rather lynch this today:

if Dav is town, then why is my vote shit? riddle me this

'cause you saw an opportunity to vote and you grabbed it. It doesn't look like you genuinely found it scummy. You didn't prod or poke or ask questions about it before voting, you just voted.

I don't buy this. Davsto has been around long enough that I'm pretty sure he's seen townies vote without asking questions. It reads like he's trying to capitalize on smiffle for not following the hypothetical Big Book of Rules For Good Little Townies. Combine that with the fact that Davsto didn't prod or poke smiffle before voting him (or even during or after, for that matter!) and I really have a hard time thinking that this is something Davsto honestly believes.

VOTE: Davsto

Someone's town af.

What does lickety have to gain by contradicting himself other than trying to get himself lynched? Are you implying that any votes on him are bad choices as well?

Lol @ the Dav vote, I kinda like it, but it's probably based off more than early votes atm.

[LicketyQuickety]

Looks like professor Homeboy is finally playing. Or is the ease off from pressure feeling pretty good right now?

[smiffle]

when someone who has % gains % they die.

So if someone is hit twice, they die.
Good to know.

[MarioManiac4]

i don't really like all the easy townreads on all alone.

[Xtoxm]

i don't really like all the easy townreads on all alone.

qft

[LicketyQuickety]

when someone who has % gains % they die.

So if someone is hit twice, they die.
Good to know.

Waiting on that delicious case you promised us.

[smiffle]

Looks like professor Homeboy is finally playing. Or is the ease off from pressure feeling pretty good right now?

Yeah, I do feel pretty good. There is no pressure on me btw, just some shitty votes.
How does the imminent pressure on your slot feel?

I'm assuming pretty bad. Speaking of assuming, wth was up with the immediate assumption Dav was a killing role after he mentioned kills?

The leaps and bounds in your logic are... lets just say "hard to follow"

p-edit at lickety, when did I promise a case? I'm just here to ask you some insightful questions, and go over some of the things you said, pal.

[smiffle]

I read my ISO. I am actually really scummy right now. I have reasons, but I don't think people are picking up on them?

You are one funny guy Lickety.

[MarioManiac4]

i don't really like all the easy townreads on all alone.

qft

wait you're not in this game i swear

[smiffle]

well you (obviously) but Lickety is rubbing me the wrong way too and I think you're both scum but I really don't see you both being scum.
Don't currently have a third. Will have no time to stuff tomorrow morning so expect some more in a longer while.

"Hmmm, they're both scummy, but their both trying to put one another on the guillotine, so idk."

Please, don't discredit your own reads any further. Just tell it like it is.

[smiffle]

Lickety 204 - takes Ascetic role claim at its word

Lickety 206 - accuses Davsto for accepting Ascetic role claim at its word

This is another glaring contradiction from Lickety in addition to the ones you guys have caught. I'm inclined to believe he's intentionally planting them at this point. Definitely agree that he should be vigged/%'d, and I have a townread on All Alone for approaching it with that mindset.

Tails and Metal Sonic votes on him are bad but I don't think

both

are scum.

Is one more scummy than the other? (please say Sonic)

Gl, specifically, what about Davsto do you like or not like atm. He's pretty ambivalent with his reads...

[LicketyQuickety]

Looks like professor Homeboy is finally playing. Or is the ease off from pressure feeling pretty good right now?

Yeah, I do feel pretty good. There is no pressure on me btw, just some shitty votes.
1.) How does the imminent pressure on your slot feel?

I'm assuming pretty bad. Speaking of assuming, 2.) wth was up with the immediate assumption Dav was a killing role after he mentioned kills?

3.) The leaps and bounds in your logic are... lets just say "hard to follow"

4.)p-edit at lickety, when did I promise a case? I'm just here to ask you some insightful questions, and go over some of the things you said, pal.

1.) Want to know a secret? In my first 16 games I was lynched day 1 8 times.


upload pics

2.) He said nothing of more than a one shot kill is what I am going off of. I do weird stuff like that. If you play games with me, you will see that happen from time to time.

3.) I get that a lot

4.) I'm pretty sure you did. Want to bet your life on it?

PEdit: I highly doubt it if you think its who I think it is.

[smiffle]

I wanna say that LQ is scum but honestly I still prefer whatsisname I'm voting (sue me) and I still think there's a chance that LQ is just dim, to put it politely. He seems genuine in believing I should be able to summon more about that ascetic.

Hey, considering that All Alone pointed out the terrible reason you voted me to begin with, why are you still on my wagon?

[GuiltyLion]

In post 254, MarioManiac4 wrote:
i don't really like all the easy townreads on all alone.


qft

@Mario, didn't you just give all alone a "probably town" read in 242?

@Xtoxm when are you gonna answer 119?

[LicketyQuickety]

In post 254, MarioManiac4 wrote:
i don't really like all the easy townreads on all alone.


qft

@Mario, didn't you just give all alone a "probably town" read in 242?

@Xtoxm when are you gonna answer 119?

Its going to be amazing if we have an alt slip here.

[Xtoxm]

I don't care to answer stupid questions.

I've been pretty underwhelmed by your start Lion, with a couple of your posts pinging me and i'm expecting better from you if you're town.

[GuiltyLion]

Well you're just gonna have to wait for me to make my reads then. I don't tend to throw around a bunch of meaningless reads that I'm likely to change early on D1, especially when we have players that haven't even posted yet.

I don't get why you wouldn't help me read you, but whatever.

[MarioManiac4]

In post 254, MarioManiac4 wrote:
i don't really like all the easy townreads on all alone.


qft

@Mario, didn't you just give all alone a "probably town" read in 242?

@Xtoxm when are you gonna answer 119?

yes, that doesn't mean that all these "thoughtful, town" are ok.
mine was a slight gutlean.
theirs was a townread with an excuse on a town player to make them look scummy after they flip.
maybe.

[Davsto]

I wanna say that LQ is scum but honestly I still prefer whatsisname I'm voting (sue me) and I still think there's a chance that LQ is just dim, to put it politely. He seems genuine in believing I should be able to summon more about that ascetic.

Hey, considering that All Alone pointed out the terrible reason you voted me to begin with, why are you still on my wagon?

I tend to trust myself more than I trust others whose alignments I am unaware of. Not because I think I'm "better", but because I know my reads come from a town perspective. I have no idea on All Alone's motives.

[smiffle]

Xtomx, is this a stupid question?

Nah, but do you scumread Lion? Sounds like it to me.

[LicketyQuickety]

Well you're just gonna have to wait for me to make my reads then. I don't tend to throw around a bunch of meaningless reads that I'm likely to change early on D1, especially when we have players that haven't even posted yet.

I don't get why you wouldn't help me read you, but whatever.

I want a single read by the time the (real) day is over. I'ts 5pm now.

[smiffle]

Oh yeah, and one part of my role is miller. On top of the usual guilty investigations thing, it seems like I'll show up as having visited a random person who died each night.

Sleepwalker is a role I haven't heard of in a long time. Miller-sleepwalker sounds pretty believable actually, although it's an odd combo.

Why Lickety is scum and you should vote him:
1.) He's hedging his bets. (MS or GL? Seriously? You couldn't just say you had 4 scumreads? You had to limit the amount you had? Seems fake.)
2.) He's fishing and only focused on roles and mechanics. No scumhunting from him whatsoever. This is metagaming at its finest. It's filler.
3.) He's spreading suspicion everywhere and keeping his options open. Look at the last 2 pages and see how many people he's called suspect.

Now lynch the obv. scum.

For me, 1st reason translates into: he just has plain bad reads.
2nd reason is actually quite valid, he's so far planted his vote on me, and hasn't done shit except say how bad my reasons for voting him are, and try to bait anything that's everything. He keeps doing a ton of useless spec too. Trying to outguess the mod or w/e. I have strong bias on meta gaming people, so that's the nullish part of the reason.
3rd reason sounds like you think he's opportunistic, but that's basically your first reason. Point out to me multiple instances of him being opportunistic than maybe that'll support what you're saying.

[Xtoxm]

Well you're just gonna have to wait for me to make my reads then. I don't tend to throw around a

bunch of meaningless reads that I'm likely to change early on D1

, especially when we have players that haven't even posted yet.

I don't get why you wouldn't help me read you, but whatever.

Why not? This is how the game gets rolling. We've got 11 pages which is plenty to start developing reads. There will always be lurkers.

[Xtoxm]

Xtomx, is this a stupid question?

Nah, but do you scumread Lion? Sounds like it to me.

He's an early scumlean, yes