Mini 1732 - Super Smash Bros. Project M(afia) - D7!

[ika]

Dave when you play bastard a lot goes out the window

[Grib]

11 alive, 6 to hammer. Current (unofficial) votal:

o~o~o~o~o

Xtoxm (4): ika, LicketyQuickety, Firebringer, Nana

Firebringer (3): Grib, GuiltyLion, Davsto
Davsto (1): All Alone

Abstaining (3): Xtoxm, smiffle, Gendaberry
o~o~o~o~o

Don't really like Davsto's jump onto Firebringer, but if he were scum, I dunno why he wouldn't take the easy way out and play 'follow the Cop'. If Xtoxm does flip groupscum, I'd probably want to kill Davsto, or at least have ika check him.

[Grib]

He's claimed survivor. Quite simply, we'll have to lynch him sometime.

No we don't.

If we lynch Xtoxm, say, tomorrow, we have less info for today's lynch, reducing the chances of it hitting scum.

I see you're going with the appeal to fear.

If we lynch Xtoxm today, we'll have more info for our first time we attempt to lynch scum.

No. We'll just have more dead townies and WIFOM.

Look, if you're really sure on another lynch target, go ahead.

But letting Xtoxm live to lylo is a terrible idea. He's a survivor; he couldn't give a shit about who wins, he'll just vote with whoever votes first.

Or maybe he's potentially even scum (sk?) hoping to skate by on a survivor claim and hope the WIFOM of it all leaves him alive. I mean, scum won't kill him.

The fact is, leaving alive someone who we know 100% isn't town is not a good idea. Ever.

I am a triforce daycop so I can help find Link.

Okay now you're talking.

UNVOTE:

I dunno, the unvote here felt too...easy. And quick. Obviously the mindset of dealing with a claimed Survivor doesn't mesh.

[Grib]

lol, the play advice for Lyncher:

On Day 2, claim Cop with a guilty result on your target. By the time they figure out you're lying, you will have already won.

I literally do not care if ika is a Lyncher, though. Odds are he gets removed from the game and wins with whatever faction comes out victorious in the end. That's not a bad thing.

[Davsto]

I mean, if ika claimed Lyncher, I'd honestly just go along with it because that means we get two third parties out of the way by lynching Xtoxm, or potentially a scum and a lyncher.

But until then, I'm happy with a Firebringer vote.

[Grib]

Mm.

I'm concerned you might be bussing him.

I shall sleep on this line of thinking and let it stew.

[ika]

So my internet is out so I'm stuck mobile

[Grib]

Meh.

I'm considering voting for Xtoxm and having someone hammer, since it doesn't look like anyone wants to talk.

[ika]

well my internet is back

[Gendaberry]

Scum:
ASP/Grib - their push on me is bad and has bad reasoning

Really? I swear, you scum read almost everyone who votes you.

I'm fine with lynching Xtoxm now honestly. Apart from him, I still think Davsto and LQ are scummy. Firebringer's outburst seems pretty bad too, mostly because it looks fake to me.

VOTE: Xtoxm

[Gendaberry]

LQ does your power get stronger with each hammer, or do you only need to do it once?

[GuiltyLion]

totally good with Xt lynch, but if anyone wants to talk more, they should get the chance to. Also happy to let LQ hammer if he wants

[Firebringer]

I just want to say, potatoes.

Also I am ensured to survive tonight because I look scummy.
Good on me.

See you tomorrow.

[LicketyQuickety]

LQ does your power get stronger with each hammer, or do you only need to do it once?

Good question. Want to find out? Let me hammer and I'll answer this.

[Grib]

That requires you to unvote.

[smiffle]

So, from his lack of response to my earlier post, Lickety doesn't have any bullets at the moment, otherwise vigging Xt would be the obvious thing to do.
That would eliminate any fear of ika being lyncher and such, and we could use this day correctly etc, etc.

@Lickety, do you get something from hammering today as well? (a direct answer would be nice) I'm considering restacking the votes so you can if that's the case. Otherwise I'm feeling like Xt's meal tonight will be rope, but we'll see... Ika claims he's straight-up mafia, but I don't know. The one thing I'm having an issue with is the disparities between MS and Ika on the basis of what they claimed with their roles. Here's the post with the questions I had for Ms about his role just before he was replaced:

My role corresponds fairly to my flavor so yeah we'll have to expunge xtomx at some point in time


Play wise he is also following his scum meta. I have a lot of games with xtoxm already (<3) and yeah I can differentiate. Heavily leaning scum or 3rd party since he doesn't look like working with lickety and co

Did you alter your claim in anyway to try and push Xt's lynch better? I'm actually expecting this is some kind of gambity roleclaim-push you're making. Since you and Xtom have been at odds for a while, specifically you.

oh so xtoxm is ganondorf, he's scum

as guilty lion suggested


i am zelda, and i have ~abilities~

i have info that link and ganon are both scum and need to die

Where does your claim of being able to roleblock people fit into this?

@tails

Do you have hitstun? I feel that we should coordinate people to roleblock because it's only a half roleblock

With the new information of him having an all-out cop ability, (not merely a triforce cop???), I just don't know. The reason most people, (probably including me), are letting it slip is because it's a bastard game and shit happens. I would be more up in arms about his claim if this weren't a bastard game, but the thing that scares me is I'm considering letting this shit slide.

[smiffle]

Before anyone hammers, Genda, were you aware of these posts? I iso'd tails to try and glean something off of his death, and aside from looking at his interactions, this is what I pulled up:

@Alive: I want to field test Genda tonight. You in?

On an unrelated note, I should probably stop posting so much before Sonic figures out who I am.

I don't think much more needs to be said about this considering the flip. GL sounded like he was thinking of voting Alone a couple pages back, so he might want to take note of this.

Also while looking at his iso, I remembered Grib said something about him siding with Tails about their read on Lickety, when in fact, Tails' read completely shifted towards the end of the day:

PoE for me. Lickity essentially being close to conf. town and the Xtoxm reveal just blew this game wide open.

Dayvigging third-party doesn't really prove anyone "close to conf. town" imo, but w/e. The only reason I wanted to bring this up is because Grib also mentioned this:

Also, it might just be me, but with the way yesterDay played out, it

really

looks like Tails was shot for tunneling into Lickety and then townreading him later in the Day.

So far, this is pretty much the only Grib post I'm having some issues with. It's just Wine, but I don't even care.

Grib's push on Lickety is super-fucking edgy, but it's really cool at the same time. (translation: his push makes him look hella town)
Lickety dismissing the pressure from Grib to claim more about his role is kind of null, although the Lylo defense made me raise an eyebrow.
Also, him voting Fire seems a bit like a spur of the moment "oh, fuck you too" kind of thing, (despite it saying the complete opposite of that), but it has basis nonetheless. Fire was probably just a spark, (hehehe).

[smiffle]

What are people scumreading Wanderer on?
I have very Null on Wanderer, just wondering whats so scummy that their is wagon forming for.

PoE for me. Lickity essentially being close to conf. town and the Xtoxm reveal just blew this game wide open.

Oh, whoops, sorry for the misrep, GL actually recommended Xt to investigate Alone or Fire; he wasn't considering voting them. My bad.

[smiffle]

ugh, leftover quotes. I'm a mess.

[smiffle]

11 alive, 6 to hammer. Current (unofficial) votal:

o~o~o~o~o

Xtoxm (4): ika, LicketyQuickety, Firebringer, Nana

Firebringer (3): Grib, GuiltyLion, Davsto
Davsto (1): All Alone

Abstaining (3): Xtoxm, smiffle, Gendaberry
o~o~o~o~o

Don't really like Davsto's jump onto Firebringer, but if he were scum, I dunno why he wouldn't take the easy way out and play 'follow the Cop'. If Xtoxm does flip groupscum, I'd probably want to kill Davsto, or at least have ika check him.

Oh yeah, and GL voted like a minute before you did btw.

[LicketyQuickety]

In other news Smiffle is Town af.

[smiffle]

What are people scumreading Wanderer on?
I have very Null on Wanderer, just wondering whats so scummy that their is wagon forming for.

PoE for me. Lickity essentially being close to conf. town and the Xtoxm reveal just blew this game wide open.

So, uh, Lickety, are you going to unvote or stay on the wagon?
What's the plan, stan?

[smiffle]

Alright, there is something fucked-up with Mafiascum right now.

[LicketyQuickety]

What are people scumreading Wanderer on?
I have very Null on Wanderer, just wondering whats so scummy that their is wagon forming for.

PoE for me. Lickity essentially being close to conf. town and the Xtoxm reveal just blew this game wide open.

So, uh, Lickety, are you going to unvote or stay on the wagon?
What's the plan, stan?

IDK, I'm floating my vote right now. We are nowhere near the hammer and I rather keep thing up in the air a bit right now to keep Scum guessing.

As far as your comment on Gribs comment on why Tails was NKed I have an alternate reason: They were likely not a NA target so its a safe kill.

[LicketyQuickety]

Alright, there is something fucked-up with Mafiascum right now.

Like what?