Blitz 1: C9++ (GAME OVER!)

[Kraeg]

The whole mass role claim idea just looks like a way to role fish.

[Persivul]

Though I admit Marge is possibly scum, too. I think four is possible with the setup, but what combo, not positive of yet.

Overall, pretty confident in {BlockyMan, Firebringer, Marge, EspeciallyTheLies}. I'd be extremely surprised to see a scum outside these names.

So in your fourth post, and 129th overall, you think you have the scum nailed down?

I find that really difficult to believe, and have to wonder why you're saying it.

[Persivul]

And I am the king!

Uh...no you're not. Look under my avatar.

[Persivul]

HE CANT BE DEAD!

Right!

That was just so wrong.

Way to spoil it for those who haven't seen it yet...

[Persivul]

Blocky shouldn't be at L-1. Agreeing with the current wagons can be opportunistic. It can also mean that the people on those wagons are making good arguments and persuading people, which is what town is supposed to do. I rather think someone is opportunistic when they make abrupt changes from one wagon to another.

On the positive side, he noted that Ranger is buddying, which is something I thought too after Ranger proposed a town block.

Four people - Kraeg, Ocean, Kop, ETL - have post counts in the single digits. I'll bet there's 1-2 scum there. From the rest I'm suspicious of Marge and Ranger.

I hate Titus' breaking idea, but I butt heads with Titus on breaking almost every time we play together so that's not giving me a read.

[Persivul]

VOTE: Marge

[Kop]

Finishing work soon, once I'm at a computer I will go through all of this. Hate doing this on a phone.

[Marge]

Blocky shouldn't be at L-1. Agreeing with the current wagons can be opportunistic. It can also mean that the people on those wagons are making good arguments and persuading people, which is what town is supposed to do. I rather think someone is opportunistic when they make abrupt changes from one wagon to another.

On the positive side, he noted that Ranger is buddying, which is something I thought too after Ranger proposed a town block.

Four people - Kraeg, Ocean, Kop, ETL - have post counts in the single digits. I'll bet there's 1-2 scum there. From the rest I'm suspicious of Marge and Ranger.

I hate Titus' breaking idea, but I butt heads with Titus on breaking almost every time we play together so that's not giving me a read.

Asking for a town block is not buddying.

VOTE: Marge

OMG
US

[Persivul]

Asking for a town block is not buddying.

Depends on how and why it's done.

OMG
US

That's ridiculous. I've been against your claim since the beginning.

[Marge]

I'm thinking selective reading really is a thing around here.
Usually I'd see scum misreprented situations that badly but between Flubber, ranger and persivul it's either typical or players don't care or I just the odd person out because no knows me.

I'm going to ask when this game end which it is.

[Marge]

Asking for a town block is not buddying.

Depends on how and why it's done.

OMG
US

That's ridiculous. I've been against your claim since the beginning.

Why is when ranger doing it scummy?

There is nothing wrong with my claim. As I said I never was against it and second it's not scummy to claim.

[Kraeg]

Blocky shouldn't be at L-1. Agreeing with the current wagons can be opportunistic. It can also mean that the people on those wagons are making good arguments and persuading people, which is what town is supposed to do. I rather think someone is opportunistic when they make abrupt changes from one wagon to another.

On the positive side, he noted that Ranger is buddying, which is something I thought too after Ranger proposed a town block.

Four people - Kraeg, Ocean, Kop, ETL - have post counts in the single digits. I'll bet there's 1-2 scum there. From the rest I'm suspicious of Marge and Ranger.

I hate Titus' breaking idea, but I butt heads with Titus on breaking almost every time we play together so that's not giving me a read.

So what's the significance of having a single digit post count? You make it look like post counts tell the alignment of a player. I can increase my post count by replying to every posts one by one just like what you did. I can even put my vote on a separate post just like you did. But that doesn't tell anything.

[Marge]

VOTE: Kraeg

[Kraeg]

I find the wagon on Blocky scummy. It's interesting how he got into L-1 so quick by just watching a football game.

[Marge]

If you look at blocky there is the following others reads and not explaining why he thinks it's scummy.

[Flubbernugget]

I reflect Craig's sentiments.

Your vote is bad

[Flubbernugget]

VOTE: Marge

Part of me says yay Marge wagon and part of me says votes like these are going to make it form like the blocky wagon you're complaining about

[Marge]

I reflect Craig's sentiments.

Your vote is bad

I find the wagon on Blocky scummy. It's interesting how he got into L-1 so quick by just watching a football game.

VOTE: Marge

Part of me says yay Marge wagon and part of me says votes like these are going to make it form like the blocky wagon you're complaining about

[Persivul]

So what's the significance of having a single digit post count? You make it look like post counts tell the alignment of a player. I can increase my post count by replying to every posts one by one just like what you did. I can even put my vote on a separate post just like you did. But that doesn't tell anything.

Town wins by generating information. That's the whole principle of the game. If you're not posting, you're not generating.

Yes, just looking at post counts is simplistic, as some posts are better than others and counts can be inflated with fluff. OTOH, post count is a reasonable place to start looking, particularly on D1.

[Marge]

Dear Diary,

I have learned so much from this strange game of mafia. The players think lurking isn't scummy.
Is it me or is that crazy?
Besides the lack of reading and comprehension I'm predicting a scum win for the very first blitz mafia game.
It's sad that I get a better conversation from my Homie then I get from the players who are in this game.
Well diary, I guess I should maybe start drinking like my husband and play dumb from here on in.

[Persivul]

VOTE: Marge

Part of me says yay Marge wagon and part of me says votes like these are going to make it form like the blocky wagon you're complaining about

If it forms like that I'll reconsider, but as she's only at L-5 by my count, it's not a serious concern yet.

[Marge]

VOTE: Marge

Part of me says yay Marge wagon and part of me says votes like these are going to make it form like the blocky wagon you're complaining about

If it forms like that I'll reconsider, but as she's only at L-5 by my count, it's not a serious concern yet.

[Persivul]

Dear Diary,

I have learned so much from this strange game of mafia. The players think lurking isn't scummy.
Is it me or is that crazy?

You're generalizing without cause, but yeah, Kraeg's response is suspicious.

Besides the lack of reading and comprehension I'm predicting a scum win for the very first blitz mafia game.
It's sad that I get a better conversation from my Homie then I get from the players who are in this game.
Well diary, I guess I should maybe start drinking like my husband and play dumb from here on in.

Quit playing the martyr. You only have 2 votes.

Claiming outside of an agreed-upon massclaim is bad for town. In my first game here I claimed VT unprompted and took massive amounts of shit for it. A few players with big reputations can get away with it, but in general it's frowned upon.

By claiming VT, either:

- you've narrowed down the pool of potential PRs for scum to aim at, or
- you're lying

Either way it doesn't come across good.

[Persivul]

Why is when ranger doing it scummy?

It struck me as suspicious because it happened so fast:
156 - Says flubber and titus are towny
157 - Adds vedith
159 - Adds ythan

That sequence of posts struck me as odd. Not so odd to call it out right away, but when someone else noticed it too, it was worth supporting.

[Ythan]

I'm making a post so I'll know where I'm caught up to. Don't care about anything any of you are saying rn.