Blitz 1: C9++ (GAME OVER!)

Vedith · Post Post #300 (ISO) » Mon Nov 02, 2015 7:57 am

In post 291, Persivul wrote:Your opinion is yours, but no, I don't like seeing someone at L-1 this early on flimsy reasoning. But convince me...why should I vote Block?

Because if he does flip scum you look scummy for this post?

EspeciallyTheLies · Post Post #301 (ISO) » Mon Nov 02, 2015 7:58 am

Ok yeah, just checked Kraeg's posts. His last game post before inning for this one was Wed Nov 20, 2013, which was before the QT/PT change.

Persivul · Post Post #302 (ISO) » Mon Nov 02, 2015 7:59 am

In post 295, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:Persivul so it's not ok that a person took 24 hours over Halloween weekend to get involved but it is ok to use the same argument that the wagon grew "too quickly"? ok.

Of course.

A few posts at the equivalent of 3.5 days is suspicious. As Marge said, what kind of game is this that people are defending lack of participation?

OTOH, yes, I'd be against L-1 at 3.5 days, particularly on the flimsy evidence on Block, which was mostly that he agreed with the prevailing wagons.

EspeciallyTheLies · Post Post #303 (ISO) » Mon Nov 02, 2015 8:00 am

In post 300, Vedith wrote:
In post 291, Persivul wrote:Your opinion is yours, but no, I don't like seeing someone at L-1 this early on flimsy reasoning. But convince me...why should I vote Block?

Because if he does flip scum you look scummy for this post?

He's scummy for it regardless of Blocky flip, because whiteknighting is a thing and the only one I've legitimately seen it from is Persivul so far.

EspeciallyTheLies · Post Post #304 (ISO) » Mon Nov 02, 2015 8:00 am

In post 302, Persivul wrote:
In post 295, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:Persivul so it's not ok that a person took 24 hours over Halloween weekend to get involved but it is ok to use the same argument that the wagon grew "too quickly"? ok.

Of course.

A few posts at the equivalent of 3.5 days is suspicious. As Marge said, what kind of game is this that people are defending lack of participation?

OTOH, yes, I'd be against L-1 at 3.5 days, particularly on the flimsy evidence on Block, which was mostly that he agreed with the prevailing wagons.

So are you townreading Blocky then?

EspeciallyTheLies · Post Post #305 (ISO) » Mon Nov 02, 2015 8:01 am

Your argument for whether a person is town or scum based on post-count is fuckin ridiculous and awful, by the way.

Persivul · Post Post #306 (ISO) » Mon Nov 02, 2015 8:03 am

In post 300, Vedith wrote:
Because if he does flip scum you look scummy for this post?

And? Self preservation isn't my goal, and I don't see anywhere near sufficient evidence that he's scum.

Kop · Post Post #307 (ISO) » Mon Nov 02, 2015 8:03 am

Anyway. Here is the wagon posts on Blocky.

#8 Marge votes. Reason - Stealing vote.
#29 Titus votes. Reason - Flash Wagon blitz.
#30 Vedith votes. Reason - Lets go lets go.
#40 Marge unvotes. Mistakenly votes for him?
#60 Firebringer votes. Reason - ??
#65 Firebringer Unvotes. Reason - Sleeping
#79 Marge revotes. Reason - Thought setup was different.
#82 Ythan votes. Reason - Kill This.
#119 Ranger votes. Reason - Agrees
#184 Firebringer revotes - For town credit
#237 Marge Unvotes. Reason - Not sure.

EspeciallyTheLies · Post Post #308 (ISO) » Mon Nov 02, 2015 8:06 am

I don't particularly care for the Blocky wagon as I have a hard on for Persivul at the moment.

EspeciallyTheLies · Post Post #309 (ISO) » Mon Nov 02, 2015 8:06 am

Also I kind of got a nooby impression from Blocky.

Kop · Post Post #310 (ISO) » Mon Nov 02, 2015 8:06 am

In post 308, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:I don't particularly care for the Blocky wagon as I have a hard on for Persivul at the moment.

Kinky.

Flubbernugget · Post Post #311 (ISO) » Mon Nov 02, 2015 8:07 am

In post 273, Kop wrote:Does anybody not find it strange that Blocky has been at L-1 for a while now, and nobody has posted intent or even hammered him. Does this spell an indication that scum are on his wagon?

That and lurkers

EspeciallyTheLies · Post Post #312 (ISO) » Mon Nov 02, 2015 8:07 am

In post 310, Kop wrote:
In post 308, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:I don't particularly care for the Blocky wagon as I have a hard on for Persivul at the moment.

Kinky.

Join me?

Kop · Post Post #313 (ISO) » Mon Nov 02, 2015 8:09 am

In post 312, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:
In post 310, Kop wrote:
In post 308, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:I don't particularly care for the Blocky wagon as I have a hard on for Persivul at the moment.

Kinky.

Join me?

As long as you keep the whips and chains in the cupboard.

VOTE: Persivul

Persivul · Post Post #314 (ISO) » Mon Nov 02, 2015 8:09 am

In post 307, Kop wrote:Anyway. Here is the wagon posts on Blocky.

#8 Marge votes. Reason - Stealing vote.
#29 Titus votes. Reason - Flash Wagon blitz.
#30 Vedith votes. Reason - Lets go lets go.
#40 Marge unvotes. Mistakenly votes for him?
#60 Firebringer votes. Reason - ??
#65 Firebringer Unvotes. Reason - Sleeping
#79 Marge revotes. Reason - Thought setup was different.
#82 Ythan votes. Reason - Kill This.
#119 Ranger votes. Reason - Agrees
#184 Firebringer revotes - For town credit
#237 Marge Unvotes. Reason - Not sure.

But I'm scummy for saying this is a bad wagon.

Persivul · Post Post #315 (ISO) » Mon Nov 02, 2015 8:11 am

In post 313, Kop wrote:
In post 312, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:
In post 310, Kop wrote:
In post 308, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:I don't particularly care for the Blocky wagon as I have a hard on for Persivul at the moment.

Kinky.

Join me?

As long as you keep the whips and chains in the cupboard.

VOTE: Persivul

Interesting that you posted a summary showing I'm right that Block's wagon is weak, yet are now voting me.

Kop · Post Post #316 (ISO) » Mon Nov 02, 2015 8:11 am

It could be a case of if he is hammered, flips town, you can claim you said it was a bad wagon and gain town credit?

Ythan · Post Post #317 (ISO) » Mon Nov 02, 2015 8:12 am

Does it show that you were right?

EspeciallyTheLies · Post Post #318 (ISO) » Mon Nov 02, 2015 8:12 am

In post 314, Persivul wrote:
In post 307, Kop wrote:Anyway. Here is the wagon posts on Blocky.

#8 Marge votes. Reason - Stealing vote.
#29 Titus votes. Reason - Flash Wagon blitz.
#30 Vedith votes. Reason - Lets go lets go.
#40 Marge unvotes. Mistakenly votes for him?
#60 Firebringer votes. Reason - ??
#65 Firebringer Unvotes. Reason - Sleeping
#79 Marge revotes. Reason - Thought setup was different.
#82 Ythan votes. Reason - Kill This.
#119 Ranger votes. Reason - Agrees
#184 Firebringer revotes - For town credit
#237 Marge Unvotes. Reason - Not sure.

But I'm scummy for saying this is a bad wagon.

No. You're scummy for defending the fuck out of it without actual good reason. Tell me why scum wouldn't hop on a partner's wagon for towncred and how their reasoning might look if they did? Nothing you said about the wagon gives any alignment-based reasoning. Just "There's a lot of votes there so it must be a bad wagon."

Seriously?

Kop · Post Post #319 (ISO) » Mon Nov 02, 2015 8:13 am

In post 317, Ythan wrote:Does it show that you were right?

Who you referring too?

EspeciallyTheLies · Post Post #320 (ISO) » Mon Nov 02, 2015 8:14 am

In post 94, Persivul wrote:@Titus:

1. I liked your old (a few months ago) avatar better

2. Why do you want a massclaim this early? As the set-up is only SEMI-open, is it really going to do a lot of good?

I'm not saying it's suspicious that you're pushing for it at this point...but how would it benefit us?

Also this limpdick post is what set me on the case in the first place. So hedgey. So fenceshitty. So scummy.

Ythan · Post Post #321 (ISO) » Mon Nov 02, 2015 8:15 am

In post 319, Kop wrote:
In post 317, Ythan wrote:Does it show that you were right?

Who you referring too?

Context. Pers.

Kop · Post Post #322 (ISO) » Mon Nov 02, 2015 8:16 am

In post 317, Ythan wrote:Does it show that you were right?

Ignore my last post, seen it and asked, looked a bit up, I see what it's refering too.

Kop · Post Post #323 (ISO) » Mon Nov 02, 2015 8:18 am

Persivul. You say what you said about my post towards Blocks wagon, blocks wagon was formed on probably the littlest thing and it ran up. You soft defending it, could be a case you know he is town, and you know he's going to flip that, you get town credit because you were the one who defended it, if Block is hammered.

EspeciallyTheLies · Post Post #324 (ISO) » Mon Nov 02, 2015 8:24 am

In post 323, Kop wrote:you get town credit because you were the one who defended it

No one gets towncred for this anymore. It's more about showing that your reads are right and should be trusted. towncred needs to be earned in other ways.

Can someone walk me through some theory on the setup? I've never played C9++ before and the wiki is confusing. ELI5 pretty please.