In post 336, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:
I'm not asking nor arguing for anyone to vote block? So I don't really know what point you're trying to get at here.
I'm getting at the fact that you dodged a question - twice now.
Do you or do not think Blocky is town? I don't really give a fuck what you think of the wagon.
Why don't you give a fuck about the quality of an L-1 wagon?
You got a vote on marge but you haven't really interacted with her or pressed hard on that matter. If you want to lynch marge, you are going to have to press it harder.
I can place a vote and say the same as you. I have a vote in said person, doesn't mean zilch if your not going to press it further than that.
Most people aren't pressing hard for a lynch, which isn't surprising as we're less than halfway through D1. Do you find all such people scummy?
I was kinda hoping Titus would chime in on that when I asked someone to go over theory with me.
P edit what the hell are you even arguing? why should you vote blocky? I don't know because I'm not asking you to. ??? your question makes no sense and only serves to make noise so it looks like you are doing something when you aren't. and I don't care about
what you think of the wagon
. there's a distinct difference between that and the quality of a wagon.
In post 352, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:I was kinda hoping Titus would chime in on that when I asked someone to go over theory with me.
The fact that nobody did contributes to the insanity of this massclaim
Well, I mean I figured that Titus had a clear understanding of it, but even if she doesn't right now, the mass claim idea isn't something that surprises me coming from her. I've pretty much come to expect crazy nonsense out of her at all times. She may or may not have logical reasoning behind what she says, but I am not even going to argue her on it because that just never ends in good times.
As to the charge that I'm fence-sitting regarding Titus' plan, note that I explained that it's due to past experience. I believe that our last game together was the Dating Game. At the end, we argued about setup, I thought she was scum for it, and she turned out to be town (I was too).
In post 229, Persivul wrote:Blocky shouldn't be at L-1. Agreeing with the current wagons can be opportunistic. It can also mean that the people on those wagons are making good arguments and persuading people, which is what town is supposed to do. I rather think someone is opportunistic when they make abrupt changes from one wagon to another.
On the positive side, he noted that Ranger is buddying, which is something I thought too after Ranger proposed a town block.
Four people - Kraeg, Ocean, Kop, ETL - have post counts in the single digits. I'll bet there's 1-2 scum there. From the rest I'm suspicious of Marge and Ranger.
I hate Titus' breaking idea, but I butt heads with Titus on breaking almost every time we play together so that's not giving me a read.
In post 354, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:
Well, I mean I figured that Titus had a clear understanding of it, but even if she doesn't right now, the mass claim idea isn't something that surprises me coming from her. I've pretty much come to expect crazy nonsense out of her at all times. She may or may not have logical reasoning behind what she says, but I am not even going to argue her on it because that just never ends in good times.
But when that comes from you, that's not wishy-washy or fence-sitty...
Those of you who aren't voting Persivul need to explain to me why not in a way that doesn't involve "Blocky is better" because he's not. He's a meh lynch. His ISO isn't fantastic but it isn't super scummy either, like Persivul's is. I've pointed out several things wrong here. He hedged on Titus, which I could see as her way of gaining reactions, especially given her call for a wagon on herself off the jump. And understand that it wasn't the idea of mass claim that he hedged on - it was hedging on what he thought it meant about her alignment. "I'm not saying you are or aren't scummy for this... blah blah blah". It's literally disgusting.
Second, he claims that Marge is a better lynch but has literally done nothing at all to further or develop that read, or any other read whatsoever.
And when asked about his read on Blocky, his best answer is "the wagon is bad because votes and my read has dropped." Ok.. what?
When pushed he comes up with some ridiculous non-sequiter to run after in an effort to derail the questioning of him and shift the focus. It is literally nonsense to ask a player why he should vote someone the other person isn't scumreading or pushing.
In post 359, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:Those of you who aren't voting Persivul need to explain to me why not in a way that doesn't involve "Blocky is better" because he's not.
In post 354, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:
Well, I mean I figured that Titus had a clear understanding of it, but even if she doesn't right now, the mass claim idea isn't something that surprises me coming from her. I've pretty much come to expect crazy nonsense out of her at all times. She may or may not have logical reasoning behind what she says, but I am not even going to argue her on it because that just never ends in good times.
But when that comes from you, that's not wishy-washy or fence-sitty...
I didn't go out of my way to say "I don't have a read on you."
In post 352, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:I was kinda hoping Titus would chime in on that when I asked someone to go over theory with me.
P edit what the hell are you even arguing? why should you vote blocky? I don't know because I'm not asking you to. ??? your question makes no sense and only serves to make noise so it looks like you are doing something when you aren't. and I don't care about
what you think of the wagon
. there's a distinct difference between that and the quality of a wagon.
Fair enough. What do you think of the quality of the wagon?
OK, I could have worded it better, but the argument remains. Are you picking on the wording because my explanation makes sense and you don't like to be wrong?
OK, I could have worded it better, but the argument remains. Are you picking on the wording because my explanation makes sense and you don't like to be wrong?
What the hell are you talking about? I haven't changed my story. I didn't like the post where you went out of your way to give a null read on Titus.
In post 367, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:Why is that a better explanation and sure-fire reason for townPers over Pers is scum and his partners are too afraid to defend him?
I don't buy it, that's why... Scum are just going to watch while you 2 take all of the focus.
In post 368, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:
What the hell are you talking about? I haven't changed my story. I didn't like the post where you went out of your way to give a null read on Titus.
You don't like people giving their reads in a game of mafia...got it.
"I'm not sure about the plan" and "I'm not sure about Titus" are two very different statements. In the context of discussing Titus' mass claim idea, it is appropriate for one to say "I'm not sure about the plan". It is NOT, however, appropriate to come out of left field for no reason to say "I'm not sure about Titus". No one asked you and you didn't pair it with any comparison of other reads, so what was the purpose behind the statement?
p-edit: Persivul, that's a really gross misrepresentation of what I've said.
In post 367, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:Why is that a better explanation and sure-fire reason for townPers over Pers is scum and his partners are too afraid to defend him?
I don't buy it, that's why... Scum are just going to watch while you 2 take all of the focus.
Ok. I think that's ridiculous, considering the amount of pushback I'm already receiving on lynching Persivul.
