Blitz 1: C9++ (GAME OVER!)

[Persivul]

Also my title is awesome, so using an alt would be a waste.

[Persivul]

@Kop

This is an interesting progression:

263 - You respond to the post in which I said Blocky's wagon was bad, commented on Ranger's proposed town block, and commented on lurkers.

You completely ignored the part about Blocky

, only commenting on town blocks and lurkers. So, you didn't think my position on the Blocky wagon was an issue.

307 - You list the votes on Blocky and note that they lack substance. So, you seem to agree with me.

313 - You vote me without explanation, at ETL's request.

316 - You make a weak wifom argument which you could have made back in 263 if you thought it had merit.

Other than sheeping ETL, you've mostly talked about the breaking issue or just made small talk. There's very little original scum hunting coming from you.

[Persivul]

Forgot to use post tags:

@Kop

This is an interesting progression:

263 - You respond to the post in which I said Blocky's wagon was bad, commented on Ranger's proposed town block, and commented on lurkers.

You completely ignored the part about Blocky

, only commenting on town blocks and lurkers. So, you didn't think my position on the Blocky wagon was an issue.

307 - You list the votes on Blocky and note that they lack substance. So, you seem to agree with me.

313 - You vote me without explanation, at ETL's request.

316 - You make a weak wifom argument which you could have made back in 263 if you thought it had merit.

Other than sheeping ETL, you've mostly talked about the breaking issue or just made small talk. There's very little original scum hunting coming from you.

[Titus]

@500- Scum would on day 2. I am presuming any vigs that shoot would claim D2. Then scum can count the number of kills and get a good idea of whether or not there is an SK. Thus by Day 2, scum would know if there is an SK. It's best to force scum to claim with as little info as possible.

The blocky wagon is likely all town. It should stay. The amount of Defense blocky's slot gets while doing nothing is astounding.

@All, I do like the reasons on Kop. Big shock they are the same reasons Blocky is wagoned though.

[Marge]

First link: "Scum will lie or get info."

That opposes mass claim.

That post was thinking the set up was something else, obviously.

@500- Scum would on day 2. I am presuming any vigs that shoot would claim D2. Then scum can count the number of kills and get a good idea of whether or not there is an SK. Thus by Day 2, scum would know if there is an SK. It's best to force scum to claim with as little info as possible.

The blocky wagon is likely all town. It should stay. The amount of Defense blocky's slot gets while doing nothing is astounding.

@All, I do like the reasons on Kop. Big shock they are the same reasons Blocky is wagoned though.

I'm just waiting a bit. There is still 2 days left here.

[EspeciallyTheLies]

Pers why did you wait so long to unvote?

[Rob14]

Vote Count #1.12:

BlockyMan:

Titus, Vedith, Ythan, Ranger, Firebringer (5)

Persivul:

EspeciallyTheLies, Kop, Marge (3)

Titus:

BlockyMan, Kraeg (2)

Marge:

Flubbernugget, Persivul (2)

Ranger:

OceanWind (1)

Not Voting:

None.

With 13 people alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

V/LA:

None.

Deadline:

(expired on 2015-11-05 12:37:00)

[Rob14]

Replacing BlockyMan.

[Persivul]

Pers why did you wait so long to unvote?

I didn't see any danger of a hammer. He had been at L-1 before and no one declared intent. It's apparent that the people not already on it aren't interested in it. Hell, you made a defense of him to Titus. But for some reason it's scummy that I did so.

[EspeciallyTheLies]

Pers why did you wait so long to unvote?

I didn't see any danger of a hammer. He had been at L-1 before and no one declared intent. It's apparent that the people not already on it aren't interested in it. Hell, you made a defense of him to Titus. But for some reason it's scummy that I did so.

I defended my position on my preferred wagon as opposed to voting for someone I didn't feel strongly about.

VS

You defending the wagon for the sake of it's existence.

One has traceable logic and the other is nonsense. One is scummy and the other isn't.

[Persivul]

I saw a crappy L-1 wagon and pointed it out.

Why is it nonsense for town to do that?

[EspeciallyTheLies]

I saw a crappy L-1 wagon and pointed it out.

Why is it nonsense for town to do that?

Why was it crappy?

[EspeciallyTheLies]

It's not nonsense to point out that you disagree with a wagon. It's the reason behind your disagreement. You said you didn't like the fact that there were so many votes on it. That's not a good reason in my opinion and has nothing to do with your actual read on Blinky or whatever the hell his name is. In order to understand your reasoning, I asked you several times what your read on him was, and you refused to give a straight answer, eventually settling on "my read on him has dropped".

[EspeciallyTheLies]

If you were legitimately town-reading him, or scumreading someone else more strongly (don't say Marge because you weren't pushing that at all or interacting with Marge in the slightest), then I could understand why you didn't like the size of the wagon, but not liking it specifically and solely for the size has no basis in scum hunting.

[Persivul]

As I've stated previously, you can't prove a negative. The burden of proof is on the wagon to show why he's scummy. I've shown clearly that they hadn't come remotely close to doing that. Therefore, the wagon was bad. I didn't need to prove that Blocky was town in order to reasonably oppose that wagon.

[EspeciallyTheLies]

As I've stated previously, you can't prove a negative. The burden of proof is on the wagon to show why he's scummy. I've shown clearly that they hadn't come remotely close to doing that. Therefore, the wagon was bad. I didn't need to prove that Blocky was town in order to reasonably oppose that wagon.

I didn't ask you to prove he was town.

I asked if you thought he was town.

[Rob14]

ProHawk replaces BlockyMan.

[EspeciallyTheLies]

Is it an actual miscommunication going on here that is preventing you from understanding what I'm saying or are you twisting words on purpose? I'm trying to understand why you seem completely unable to respond directly.

p-edit: hi prohawk.

[Persivul]

ProHawk replaces BlockyMan.

I hope you're town, and a good defender. This has gotten ridiculous.

[EspeciallyTheLies]

What reads do you have Persivul?

[ProHawk]

What's up! I'm vanilla town. Not a good defender, but I will blitz like the best of em.

[EspeciallyTheLies]

Pornhawk, the current state of the game is your slot wavering between L-1 and L-2. Apparently it has been that way for a while. There are some people defending it (Persivul) and some people pushing it (Titus).

If you can manage to read the entire thread and post what you can before deadline or derphammer, I'd appreciate it.

[ProHawk]

Who has been white Knight ing me Titus?

[ProHawk]

I'll work hard at reading through tonight, at work now

[EspeciallyTheLies]

Who has been white Knight ing me Titus?

Persivul. Titus wants you dead.