Mini 1730: Suikoden U-Pick GAME OVER

[Varsoon]

"A powerful man who doesn't use his power is a coward."

-Odessa,

Suikoden I

VOTECOUNT 1.12

LicketyQuickety (5):

Ranger, Titus, Suzune, Jeanne11, Elbirn

Elbirn (2):

BRantz, Bright

Jeanne11 (2):

LicketyQuickety, Firekari

Ranger (2):

wgeurts, Blackest Magick

Bright (1):

Reasonably Rational

Firekari (1):

pistachi0n

Not Voting (1):

Klingoncelt

With 14 Alive, it takes 8 to Lynch.
Deadline

: (expired on 2015-11-11 18:55:00)
Apologies for the infrequent VCs. I have been very busy and several of this game's post happen while I am asleep.

[Titus]

I went through Klings ISO and saw some Scum hunting. That's an ok sign I guess. I nailed Kling last game we were both in for not doing that and they were Scum who didn't get lynched fwiw.

Where?

[Elbirn]

We have 2 scumleans, 1 null, and 1 townlean on Kling.
~Yukari

Mfw I realize that this post all 4 of yukari's tulpae plus firebringer voicing their opinion on one player

Mfw I have no face

[FireKari]

Fire is here, who wants to talk to me?

[LicketyQuickety]

I went through Klings ISO and saw some Scum hunting. That's an ok sign I guess. I nailed Kling last game we were both in for not doing that and they were Scum who didn't get lynched fwiw.

Where?

IDK.. go through her ISO as see if you see her asking any questions and stuff.

[FireKari]

I don't know what to say, I had to do some catch up.
Still think Lickety is the lynch for the day.

I might be falling into a confirmation bias and consensus though with everyone else....

[Titus]

I went through Klings ISO and saw some Scum hunting. That's an ok sign I guess. I nailed Kling last game we were both in for not doing that and they were Scum who didn't get lynched fwiw.

Where?

IDK.. go through her ISO as see if you see her asking any questions and stuff.

I don't. That's why I asked you.

[Titus]

I don't know what to say, I had to do some catch up.
Still think Lickety is the lynch for the day.

I might be falling into a confirmation bias and consensus though with everyone else....

Valid concern but I really do think LQ is scum.

[LicketyQuickety]

I went through Klings ISO and saw some Scum hunting. That's an ok sign I guess. I nailed Kling last game we were both in for not doing that and they were Scum who didn't get lynched fwiw.

Where?

IDK.. go through her ISO as see if you see her asking any questions and stuff.

I don't. That's why I asked you.

You don't do ISO's?

[Titus]

I went through Klings ISO and saw some Scum hunting. That's an ok sign I guess. I nailed Kling last game we were both in for not doing that and they were Scum who didn't get lynched fwiw.

Where?

IDK.. go through her ISO as see if you see her asking any questions and stuff.

I don't. That's why I asked you.

You don't do ISO's?

I don't see Klingon scumhunting.

[Reasonably Rational]

VOTE: BRantz.

Mark: wgeurts.

(I wonder if Varsoon will accept that? If so, wgeurts will confirm when it's been done. If not, then I suppose I need to go through the effort of PMing it.)

This is your only post. Interesting way to come out of the gate....

What does "mark" mean?

What do you think of me? I want to know if you like me? :-p

Titus, how could anyone not like you?

Hi.

Elbrin or BM, who is scummier and why?

Between the two, I'd say Elbirn. His play reminds me of Devil Elbirn from Midnight Sun.

RRRRRrrrrrrrrrrrr....

Graaaah! Gwarrrrr! KYreeeeeh! Kyrrrr!!

Who the hell is this?

Here ya go Titus:

Blackest Magick (Xtoxm & Pokerface) - 5 posts, 1's RVS, 1's fluff. I can see this sort of thing from Pokerface, but where is Xtoxm?

Brantz - 3 posts, only 1 with any (minimal) level of content.

Bright - WTF???

Elbirn - Is Titus right about him being a wagon sensor? (post 413) What is his connection with Titus? Why isn't he scumreading Jeanne?

FireKari - (post 162) - Are they claiming Oracle? What is AUA? Where's FireBringer?

Jeanne11 - Wants players to prove that they aren't Scum? How the hell is that supposed to happen?

LQ - Weirdly paranoid. Where's the self-confidence?

Pistachi0n - 3 posts, not exactly fluff, but still... it looks like he's trying to make it look like he cares.

Ranger - That "marked" thing bugs me, what is it? And Ranger claims that Wgeurts confirmed it?

Reasonably Rational - Holy cats, the hydra really is reasonably rational! They're the only sane player so far. The posts have content and make sense... Lean Town

Suzune - Seems to be as lost as I am.

Titus - Possibly outs an Oracle and a Sensor, then gets on LQ for rolefishing. Really bad. Then there's the fruit code thing with Elbirn. Are they masons? Neighbors? Lovers? Scum?

Wgeurts - Supposedly confirmed Ranger's "mark" by asking about it, even though Titus and I asked about it too... Otherwise nothing at all... Lean Scum.

Oh - Pistachion is Lean Scum, I forgot to type in in my reads.

Well, I need proof that you're town. And I mean solid proof, not just wishy-washy argument heavily influenced by you.

Jeanne, this is awful.

The only way anyone can prove anything is by mod confirmation or flip.

Exactly what proof have you provided that you are Town?

Right now? So I would be at night? The night is in 9 days or so, not 'right now'.

You do realize you're implicating yourself?

Can we lynch this please? There's literally no way to read this and I don't want to be staring at end game and still wondering.

I don't want to lynch her yet.

I want to try and figure her out.

Jeanne11

- could you give us a reads list, please? I know you have everyone as Scum, but could you put down a sentence or two as to why?

All of Klingons meaningful content.

-Cerb

[Suzune]

Okay, here are my reads. They're all gut reads for now.

I feel like I am a pain with you but, Jeanne, could you give us a little bit of substance.

Your not masons, otherwise you wouldn't have voted em

Well this is true. I would call it temporary aid. At least masons know that everyone present is town.

So just because I have voted them, I cannot be in masonry/neighbourhood with them,

Perhaps this is a rule I am unfamiliar with. But Masons can vote masons. I have allowed my masons to do it before in order to keep their teammates from being nightkilled because they would always have a small suspicion on them.

[Reasonably Rational]

Okay, here are my reads. They're all gut reads for now.

I feel like I am a pain with you but, Jeanne, could you give us a little bit of substance.

Your not masons, otherwise you wouldn't have voted em

Well this is true. I would call it temporary aid. At least masons know that everyone present is town.

So just because I have voted them, I cannot be in masonry/neighbourhood with them,

Perhaps this is a rule I am unfamiliar with. But Masons can vote masons. I have allowed my masons to do it before in order to keep their teammates from being nightkilled because they would always have a small suspicion on them.

Jeanne was being sarcastic. About the voting.

-Cerb

[Suzune]

LQ is spiralling down the ladder towniness in these posts.

I wonder if that is fair considering who is he is fighting against. LQ is logical and reasonable, while Jeanne is passionate and emotional.

p-edit- Thank you Reasonably Rational and I apologize for missing it.

[Titus]

@RR, Quoting Klingon's ISO and saying it's meaningful doesn't explain anything.

[LicketyQuickety]

LQ is spiralling down the ladder towniness in these posts.

I wonder if that is fair considering who is he is fighting against.

LQ is logical and reasonable

, while Jeanne is passionate and emotional.

p-edit- Thank you Reasonably Rational and I apologize for missing it.

Thanks, but you're wrong.

[Reasonably Rational]

@RR, Quoting Klingon's ISO and saying it's meaningful doesn't explain anything.

I'm not trying to explain anything. I'm just highlighting the pieces that might lead someone to feel she's scum hunting.

-Cerb

[Reasonably Rational]

Firekari: Under what circumstances would you be unable to conftown D2?

-Cerb

[Titus]

@RR, Quoting Klingon's ISO and saying it's meaningful doesn't explain anything.

I'm not trying to explain anything. I'm just highlighting the pieces that might lead someone to feel she's scum hunting.

-Cerb

Do you? Might lead someone isn't exactly a ringing endorsement.

[Suzune]

looking for how Elb and Suz fit into this,

I don't know how I fit in, I know I was invited to be part of it. It was an adventure.

Weird conversation going on, on page 43 about helping people. Now when I am really in a bind or I need help I will try to see if some of the posts are talking to me. Or if someone knows something about my alignment and are helping me without helping me. Now this we are coaching you in the topic and making obvious about it is interesting. When one does it for themselves it seems normal or regular. People do not admit to being in a bind and instead try to read out and understand the game. However, this is explicit helping. Now sometimes you can help not obviously however I wonder about this. See the more I read it the more townie feelings I feel from them, however, this raises red flags of manipulation for me because you are saying how to think.

Am I now town?

You are interesting to say the least.

LQ is spiralling down the ladder towniness in these posts.

I wonder if that is fair considering who is he is fighting against.

LQ is logical and reasonable

, while Jeanne is passionate and emotional.

p-edit- Thank you Reasonably Rational and I apologize for missing it.

Thanks, but you're wrong.

Hm, I do not think so. You post logically and with patience. You read people for more then their words because you gave me a fantastic read once. However, to each their own.

[Reasonably Rational]

@RR, Quoting Klingon's ISO and saying it's meaningful doesn't explain anything.

I'm not trying to explain anything. I'm just highlighting the pieces that might lead someone to feel she's scum hunting.

-Cerb

Do you? Might lead someone isn't exactly a ringing endorsement.

I don't think she is. I see tangential involvement in the noise that is Jeanne, with no independent pushing being done. But I see how someone could view that as scum hunting.

-Cer

[Titus]

You want to vote her together?

[Reasonably Rational]

I'd rather lynch Ranger. Marking someone after two posts, with something she admits is at best bad, isn't pro-town play. I actually don't believe there's a single person so far today who has given me cause to think they're town.

-Cerb

[Titus]

I actually don't see Ranger saying that. I like Ranger's transparency. I don't mind his mark choice (but if it murders the target I'd feel differently).

You're wanting to lynch Ranger who could be bad town over someone you think isn't scum hunting and your vote isn't sitting on an active player? So many levels of wtf.

[Varsoon]

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