Mini 1722: Warcraft III - Reign of MAFIA (DOOM HAS COME)

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Confirmarooni

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VOTE: Gale Wing Srock

racist

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VOTE: Shiro

serious vote

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Actually I think ABR slipped l think He meant to say character(possible cause scourge) but accidentally said role. It makes no sense to say the one role he didn't want when roles are closed and you can't anticipate anything.

VOTE:ABR

I don't particularly understand this. Can you elaborate a bit?
And if flavor is such a big deal to you, what do you think of Brantz and his incorrect assessment of flavor earlier on?

VOTE: Shiro

serious vote

Why?

This should be obvious, if you have a town PM

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im back guys

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weekends are crazy

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Was that a third party claim day 1?

Yeah we're lynching this right now.

No no it wasn't. I am allied with burning Legion just with delayed Victory condition. I am pretty sure I explained it well.

The part where your win con is not the same as mine?

Town wins by lynching scum. You win by surviving. That isn't a town wincon.

qft

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do you fuckboys not remember Post 52 and Post 56

"VOTE:ABR"

"He meant to say character or role flavour(like he clarified) which is fairly ambigious but I think he slipped and said role. I dunno that makes me think he has a scourge character. "

like really

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taken

VOTE: Shiro

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Why am I playing with newbs? Did I join rtr?

Third parties are antitown. This is basic mafia theory. There is no pro-toen third party.

thank you.

VOTE: Firebringer

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idgaf if i die if we drop a barrier to town win

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hard and fast baby

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UNVOTE:

actually, his flavor makes sense.

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ok maybe i should read the last page before voting

stop this, hes telling the truth

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fuck if i actually die calling his bluff im going to be mad lmao

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in warcraft, if you click sheep a number of time in a row (5 or so, if i recall correctly) they explode

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sheep are neutrals that don't actually do anything

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There are mechanic explosive sheep in warcraft.

They are made by enemies of the burning legion / scourge and used as traps.

not exactly true, as the traps that alliance can create are 'critters' and can be more than just sheep

every normal sheep in the game can be clicked on repeatedly to explode.

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im glad that this is warcraft iii mafia and not world of warcraft mafia

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i have to correct myself of what i said earlier

the mechanical critter was a hero item that could be used by either side, scourge or allicance. it was not limited to alliance and it was bought in

neutral

item shops

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The exerpt above is from events during warcraft 3. The invasion of Loardaeron, most notably.

This era: http://youtu.be/saC_ehDMYuQ

the excerpt is not from warcraft iii

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it is from the warcraft RPG, which is a precursor to world of warcraft

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I'm reluctant because from a flavor standpoint, it's entirely plausible

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i was testing his grit obv

3p should definitely die but its lower on my radar

why are these four people voting vezok: BRantz, Vedith, Netherspite, The Silver Bard

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ok fa is ignored for being a dumbass

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i don't know if i particularly disagree with him, tho. 3p isn't a bad lynch per se, but its better than a mislynch

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here

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that is inherently against his wincon to only help town

he is a liability, no matter what. ready to hammer

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First

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Nice we have a vig

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VOTE: fa_q2

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Yall gotta think how basic shiro was as a player. Don't think he had the chops to try to hard bus out the gate so he prolly fluffed his teammates

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why shinobi? not discounting you because i haven't been very thorough with my reads

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my vote on fa is mostly based off shiro

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idc about getting lynched because i'm VT

what is your plan when i flip town? we have over half the deadline left to discuss. even tho its meta to quicklynch, i don't think it would be beneficial here at all. especially with everyones scrum reads limited to maybe two people

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tbh i'm not reading this game very carefully because i'm mostly playing at work lol

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someone explain my scum motivation for putting my first real vote on my 'scumbuddy' because of his scumslip

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dont really have any because shiro and fb were my scum reads. i have to re-read

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oh kapper

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well this puts me into a spot dont it

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i guess will work on-rereading and giving actual analysis. prolly wont get to it for a couple of days

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don't defend me, i don't trust you

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Like?

A better idea would be putting up a case for someone else that is more convincing.

Nether is the backup. She kisses his ass. He's buddied everyone. Not a fan.

Inte/Nether for scum.

Shinobi/TSB are long shots.

All others are town but Vezok might be an SK. Best to let scum handle it.

What the flying fuck are you talking about? Do you think 8 town against 5 anti-town is a fair game? Are you out of your mind?

Uhhhhhh what? How exactly did you draw this conclusion?

3 scum team, 1 survivor,

and

1 SK?

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ok

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catching up then reviewing again

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@Call of the Wild

I've posted my reads.
What else you want to know?

You aren't pushing for

vezokpiraka

lynch, yet you're 'not subtly' claiming he's not town.
This does not make sense.

I'm not subtly claiming there's a possibility Vezok is SK. In Warcraft 3, there are 4 playable factions (if I recall correctly), four factions is not a stretch here.

Yet if Vezok has the possibility of being the SK, that alone is not enough to advocate strongly for his lynch. It's just that, a possibility. Vezok is a problem scum may very well handle for us.

Second, Shiro was a traitor who knew she had two scum. If we lynch the two scum mentioned in Shiro's role PM and the game continues, there must be a third evil faction. Said third faction must have a kill. Enter Vezok. Turbo lynch Vezok in that scenario. Until then or lylo plus a day, Vezok shouldn't be lynched without very strong cop/tracker evidence.

It's basic math and logic. It's frustrating that this isn't evident.

I'd be less concerned about Vezok if he actually voted/interacted with anyone who could be scum, but he's not which fits the SK profile.

By actually playing to the numbers, not lynching Vezok, but stating my position, it's a win win. We know how to approach Vezok if I am right and if I am wrong, scum are less likely to kill him.

i think this is incorrect analysis of the situation... because in warcraft 3, the scourge threat is what unified the other three factions to fight. also, the flipped third party was something entirely not related to anything at all.

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It's stupid to have checked me. It was obvious I was a PR the moment I said on Day 1 that I inadvertently claimed Burning Legion, not realizing ghouls were VTs.

It's burning legion vs. scourge.

I'm a demon of the burning legion and a PR and I'll be dead tonight thanks to you. If you're really town, you fucked up. If you're scum and were PR hunting, well done, it's a shame you got caught.

hmm, i think i caught this before. i think this is prolly the reason why i mistrusted you.

This is awful. If you thought Nether was lying about being a ghoul, why didn't you just check him?

we've done everything rihgt

Let's pick this apart for a moment. Checking me was a bad play because I clearly wasn't a ghoul from my post on the 3rd page of the game, which you claim not to have read.

First mistake.

Checking Nether would guarantee that we know if he's scum or town, because if town PR, he wouldn't know that the VT = Ghoul. If I were you, as soon as Nether crumbed ghoul, I would have known to check him to get a guaranteed result.

So that's your second mistake.

Pushing Nether after everyone in the game except Bard says you're wrong, and then continuing with this and listening to nobody, trying to get killed, just dug your own hole. Mistake number three.

You've played an awful game.

But I tell you what.

I still have half a mind to vote for Bard right now if you promise to check Nether tonight. What's it going to be?

nods

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just vig cotw, wasted slot by their play

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idc if ur pushing my lynch or not

fact is ur pushing shit logic and basically yelling over everyone else

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so is cotw claiming rolecop or regular cop

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how fkin weak is that for balance? we have a vig which is inherently a swingy-antitown kind of role

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She claimed to be a cop that could see if a slot was a VT or not

I've been busy so I missed a few pages, do we know who she checked?

she checked ABR, effectively calling him out and ousting him.

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He's also my other scumsuspect and I'm trying to get him and Nether lynched. I'm the only one with the right team, and the only vig target. There's a point where scum are just playing with their food.

Well, now it's you instead of a hydra, I feel better about trying to read you.
So lets go through their cases again. I know that you are probably tired of saying it but I want to see what reasons for them that others can't be accused for as well.

Ok, I'll do this again.

1) Nether crumbed VT early on. Nether claims he crumbed Ghoul only. Ghoul can only be a VT though.
2) Nether has basically sheeped anything else with a pulse.
3) When I try to work with the rest of the town to lynch Nether, highlighting Nether's play, I'm suddenly wagoned.
4) When I was merely suspecting Nether, I wasn't a suspect at all.
5) Nether has put in cases full of lies on us.
6) Nether hasn't scumhunted but just tried to spam out us and say we're wrong.

1) stop with the shit logic
2) ok
3) theres a reason for this, you're pushing shit logic
4) because its rational to suspect off a perceived scum slip, but the entirety of your case is that you think he scum slipped
5) lies that are unverifiable without extensive work
6) he has scumhunted enough

how fkin weak is that for balance? we have a vig which is inherently a swingy-antitown kind of role

the vig killed traitor night one and will kill mafia night two

how is that anti-town?

higher percentage chance to screw town. especially when i'm vig

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jesus i thought i was a spammer

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vanilla cop is so fking useless

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shrug, TSB can die

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whats the votecount

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Anatole i swear to bob you better shoot the right person

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Kapper nerds trying to intimidate me

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So scum actually do have a fake claim... Which mean Titus's logic wasn't terrible

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5 hour long conference call today... bout to try to catch up in a sec

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yall can lynch me or shoot me or w/e, i haven't done shit this game. i'm VT

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Re: vez, naw he was just obv town pretty early

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i've already claimed

may as well throw out my vote VOTE: FA_Q2

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FA > Performer > Shinobi > Nether > Vedith

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maybe FA > Performer = Shinobi > Nether > Vedith is better

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shrug, TSB can die


shrug, TSB can die

Why did you not follow up with a vote here?

no votecount and was too lazy to check it out myself

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I am going flat out anti town survivor anytime I get survivor now on MafiaScum

When people ask me, why I went anti town. I will refer them to this game.
Say fuck you, these guys poisoned the well.

survivor = not town = lynch

there is literally nothing else about it. you being salty as fuck is just childish.

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hes trying to metagame, if you read the dead QT. I'm tempted to report him to the mods for a borderline trust tell