Blitz 1: C9++ (GAME OVER!)

[Ythan]

Is anyone voting Firebringer because of the birthday posts?

[Persivul]

Vote Count #2.4:

Not Voting:

Kop

17 hours left and no vote. Seems like scum that doesn't want VCA used against him in late game.

[Kraeg]

Since there's only 17 hours left, I think I'll just have to switch my vote. The Ranger lynch isn't happening this Day.

unvote

Vote: Ythan

[Kop]

Vote Count #2.4:

Not Voting:

Kop

17 hours left and no vote. Seems like scum that doesn't want VCA used against him in late game.

That is an excellent observation on quoting my no vote.

But you said the answer yourself, there is 17 hours left.

[Persivul]

Vote Count #2.4:

Not Voting:

Kop

17 hours left and no vote. Seems like scum that doesn't want VCA used against him in late game.

That is an excellent observation on quoting my no vote.

But you said the answer yourself, there is 17 hours left.

What are you reads with 17 hours left?

[Kop]

I woudn't mind a lynch between either Ythan or Firebringer.

I have read through some of there ISO's, and can't disagree with others.

I don't like the Ocean wagon, simply because reading through a few of his posts, I'd put Ythan or Fire ahead of him in the lynch pool.

We aren't lynching ETL.

[Kop]

VOTE: Ythan

L-1 I believe.

[Ythan]

Awaiting intent to hammer before a claim, but I'd rather not. In the mean time I really think the Firebringer wagon is a good one, and that he and the other first two currently on my wagon are worth a look tomorrow should I be lynched now and not around then to pursue it.

[EspeciallyTheLies]

no. ocean or persivul.

[Flubbernugget]

Ocean but not Persivul

[EspeciallyTheLies]

they are both scum

[Ythan]

They're orders of magnitude less lynchworthy to me.

[ProHawk]

Why not Kop or Kraeg?

[Rob14]

Vote Count #2.5:

Ythan:

Marge, Firebringer, ProHawk, Kraeg, Kop (5)

Firebringer:

Persivul, OceanWind, Ythan (3)

OceanWind:

EspeciallyTheLies, Flubbernugget (2)

EspeciallyTheLies:

Ranger (1)

Not Voting:

None

With 11 people alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

V/LA:

None

Deadline:

(expired on 2015-11-09 22:47:00)

[Persivul]

Awaiting intent to hammer before a claim, but I'd rather not. In the mean time I really think the Firebringer wagon is a good one, and that he and the other first two currently on my wagon are worth a look tomorrow should I be lynched now and not around then to pursue it.

Agreed. All of my current scum reads (Marge, FB, Kop) are on your wagon, and Marge & FB are first on.

[Persivul]

Twelve hours to go. Ranger, your lone vote on ETL isn't doing any good. Can you move it to another wagon?

[EspeciallyTheLies]

Twelve hours to go. Ranger, your lone vote on ETL isn't doing any good. Can you move it to another wagon?

If that's not scum coaching a buddy, I don't know what is.... wow....

I wonder if the whole Ocean/Ranger thing is just massive scum theater. Would explain the easy switch off Ranger two days in a row despite pushing so loudly there.

[EspeciallyTheLies]

They're orders of magnitude less lynchworthy to me.

Less lynchworthy than..... lynching... town?

[EspeciallyTheLies]

Why not Kop or Kraeg?

Kraeg is conftown in my eyes, and I'll never vote there ever. Kop is being pretty obviously town to me. Please look at Ocean and Persivul.

[Persivul]

If that's not scum coaching a buddy, I don't know what is.... wow....

Yeah, because town never urges people to consolidate wagons as deadline approaches. You're really reaching.

[EspeciallyTheLies]

If that's not scum coaching a buddy, I don't know what is.... wow....

Yeah, because town never urges people to consolidate wagons as deadline approaches. You're really reaching.

Right... Let's look at the current VC.

Ythan: Marge, Firebringer, ProHawk, Kraeg, Kop (4)
Firebringer: Persivul, OceanWind, Ythan (3)
OceanWind: EspeciallyTheLies, Flubbernugget (2)
EspeciallyTheLies: Ranger (1)

Not Voting: None

There's already a player at L-2 (Ythan). There are 3 other wagons, with a total of 6 players for you to "urge to choose a wagon. Even excluding your preferred wagon, that's still 3 - besides ranger, me and flubber. But you don't bother talking to either me or flubber. Just Ranger.

So.... yeah. That's coaching, as opposed to encouraging people to consolidate.

[EspeciallyTheLies]

You also don't bother dissuading anyone off the Ythan wagon, which is effectively counter to Firebringer.

Just Ranger.

[EspeciallyTheLies]

In this case, I think you need to clarify the definition of "reaching", when the evidence is right there in front of everyone's faces.

[EspeciallyTheLies]

So.....

Add that to the currently mounting case on you:

1) Appeasing Titus in 94.
2) Whiteknighting Blocky/Prohawk - the wagon is bad because everyone is voting there.
3) Failing to have any real reads, e.g. supposedly scumreading Marge on D1 but not interacting with her at all, whatsoever.
4) Refusing to answer questions in a straightforward manner. Unable to provide a read on Blocky/Prohawk despite defending the fuck out of it.
5) Coaching Ranger.

anyone down to flashwagon Persivul?

[OceanWind]

It's rich of you to accuse Persivul of "refusing to answer questions" when you've been a brick wall since D2.

I moved off of Ranger and onto Firebringer because I felt it had a better chance of going through. Read.

I'm still townreading Persivul. "Coaching" isn't a thing and the fact that you are using it shows how bad your case is.

Why not Firebringer?