Blitz 2: The Stars My Destination Mafia- GAME OVER!

[chamber]

A JOAT is explicitly a role with multiple 1-shot abilities as I understand it? Might be me making the false assumption.

[ika]

A JOAT is explicitly a role with multiple 1-shot abilities as I understand it? Might be me making the false assumption.

Nah your right i got wiki

http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?tit ... all-trades

The Jack-of-all-trades is a role with several one-shot night abilities - typically abilities centered around investigating, protecting and killing. The Jack-of-all-trades may use whichever ability they want on a specific Night, but can use each one only once.

[talah]

Talah why don't you relax lol.
Its a game, and I am not pushing you.
Just trying to better understand you is all.
Right now you feel null to me, and setup specing I consider not alignment indicative.

K TY Mr IC.
That summon / reveal was epic btw :D

[ika]

OH HELL YA SC2 IS UPDATED BYE NOW TIME FOR CAMPAIGN

[BBmolla]

OH HELL YA SC2 IS UPDATED BYE NOW TIME FOR CAMPAIGN

theres a new campaign?

[Firebringer]

Legacy of the Void just dropped today.

[chamber]

2nd expansion came out. Legacy of the Void. Protoss one.

[chamber]

I have this sinking feeling that there is a 2nd mafia.

[chamber]

Ok, I guess I should vote. I will do some reading on my lunch break and pick someone.

Vote: Pignash

[talah]

Hi DGB! Long time no see...

Possibly.

[talah]

Actually lol.

He was in Molla's game as scum which just finished where DGB got lynched as town.

Fine, I'm down.

UNVOTE: Malakittens
VOTE: pignash

[Firebringer]

I have this sinking feeling that there is a 2nd mafia.

Are you saying another team lol?

[chamber]

2nd team of 2. Day 1 just seems really weird otherwise.

[talah]

How so?

I posted the current claims (ignoring any other neighbourhoods) here:

Spoiler:

Since he's not saying it, Spiffeh, Pere and I are in an anytime-talk neighbourhood.

By the way: there's, 100%, scum between {Spiffeh, talah, PeregrineV}.

What makes me think this?

This:

Did I mention I hate neighborhoods, and they shouldn't exist?

Could that be coincidence, sure, do I think it is? No, I think that was a slip.

Actually DGB saying this was what made me think there were other neighbourhoods aside from ours (well along with what I perceived to be another neighbourhood claim from you, Molla and Syr).

After it was clarified that the mason/hivemind references weren't actually mason-based I still had it in mind that DGB could have been in a neighbourhood and we could have been dealing with a multi-neighbourhood setup where there were one or more scum in each (or say none in one and two in another).
Initially my thought was that I was in a nerfed masonry. But you could be right there.

The reason Pere gut-triggered me as being town (this is off the top of my head, and I'll be reading back over our PT in a bit) was that he initially posted a role crumb which is the same crumb I would have posted if I'd been thinking about it. I crumbed the role back. Spiffeh didn't pick up on the crumbs, but on reflection there's no real reason to think he (or Pere) would have the same role given the title of our PT.

The initial reason I was scumreading Spiffeh was that he confronted me with a scumread in-thread rather than in the PT (and didn't spot the role crumbs although as I mentioned that could be moot). I guess that's pretty townie though? When I mentioned that he said he didn't trust neighbourhoods in general.

I think - if you're assuming fakeclaims are a thing then Pere is more likely scum in our neighbourhood. If you think they're not, then Spiffeh is more likely.

I'd still like to think we were a masonry by all but name, but to do that I'd have to mentally resolve a setup that contains

Scum

Scum Jailkeeper
Scum Joat (Strongman, Ability Cop)
Scum xxx

Town

Town Roleblocker
Town Doctor
Town Neighbourhood (3 players)
Innocent Child
Town
Town
Town
Town

Maybe Town

Potential Town Vig (always possible SK)


...soooo, dunno.

Anyway I'm around for a bit. Not sure what your schedule is Nosferatu, since you said you wanted to talk.

[chamber]

I mean, I don't think I'm actually right. Much more likely is a 1-shot vig. Just getting conflicting things from the way I read day 1 vs the setup spec.

[talah]

I mean, I don't think I'm actually right. Much more likely is a 1-shot vig. Just getting conflicting things from the way I read day 1 vs the setup spec.

I actually don't get the 1-shot Vig spec. The setup seems complex enough as it is. I want to tend SK just because of the Roleblocker and Doc.
But then I'm not a setup-spec champ unless things don't make sense.
I'm just struggling to see how a 1-shot Vig makes sense.

[talah]

Also we have Scum Jailkeeper flipped which is pretty overpowered?

[ika]

Pie is town

[chamber]

By pie you mean pig?

[ika]

Yes I'm still campaigning and not sleeping

[chamber]

Unless you amend your claim to weak-doctor that targeted him last night I don't think I really care if that's all you have.

[ika]

Unless you amend your claim to weak-doctor that targeted him last night I don't think I really care if that's all you have.

Something close to that

[ika]

Anyway didn't someone mention the idea of 2 scum teams?

[BBmolla]

I mean, I don't think I'm actually right. Much more likely is a 1-shot vig. Just getting conflicting things from the way I read day 1 vs the setup spec.

I actually don't get the 1-shot Vig spec. The setup seems complex enough as it is. I want to tend SK just because of the Roleblocker and Doc.
But then I'm not a setup-spec champ unless things don't make sense.
I'm just struggling to see how a 1-shot Vig makes sense.

Normal game is 13p

1-shot vig = +1 more kill = 14p

[BBmolla]

Why the fuck are you so against PV chamber he's scummy as all fuck

Even if Pig is scum I'm not going that way today, don't bother