Mini 1737: Bringer Mafia [Mafia Win]

Fraggernaut · Post Post #525 (ISO) » Wed Nov 11, 2015 1:02 am

@Mod

Can we get a prod update on Fuzzy please?

Frozen Angel · Post Post #526 (ISO) » Wed Nov 11, 2015 1:03 am

In post 516, Accountant wrote:I'm not convinced Vedith is scum. If you guys don't want to lynch Fragger, I think a Bullet, Errant or Vedith lynch is acceptable.

People we cannot lynch today uness they outright claim scum:

Accountant
RadiantCowbells
Keyser Soze

I was in your top town list somewhere before

You can lynch me today then?!

Vedith wrote:
In post 513, Keyser Söze wrote:Find me scum

I can give a name, but it would be a lie... I'm not really looking to lie as town.
I'll give you a scum name day 2, this is almost a guarantee (I just need the night phase).

wow! Just WOW! :/ is it what I'm think it is?!

Vedith · Post Post #527 (ISO) » Wed Nov 11, 2015 1:03 am

In post 522, BNL wrote:How are people supposed to work with your list if you are really town, but don't give explanation of your reads?

Because tomorrow I shall present scum. I don't see what you don't get from this?!
Give me a reason for each of my town reads to not be town.

Vedith · Post Post #528 (ISO) » Wed Nov 11, 2015 1:04 am

In post 526, Frozen Angel wrote:wow! Just WOW! :/ is it what I'm think it is?!

I don't know what you are thinking...
If you are thinking it's an invite to my birthday party, then no, it's not.

Vedith · Post Post #529 (ISO) » Wed Nov 11, 2015 1:05 am

In post 523, Fraggernaut wrote:Would be excellent if a good portion of players who agreed to join this game would actually take part in the game. Having multiple lurkers only harms town.

This is a pro town comment, just saying.

Frozen Angel · Post Post #530 (ISO) » Wed Nov 11, 2015 1:07 am

Well! I think you just said you have a power to use in nite phase . am I mistaking?

Frozen Angel · Post Post #531 (ISO) » Wed Nov 11, 2015 1:08 am

night phase*

Keyser Söze · Post Post #532 (ISO) » Wed Nov 11, 2015 1:10 am

Let's break down All Alone's 10 contributions so far:

Ignoring game confirm and RVS vote.

In post 44, All Alone wrote:
In post 19, Accountant wrote:VOTE: All Alone

Why are you naked voting in RVS? And on a bandwagon no less.

What else am I gonna do? Write a case on a player who hadn't even posted?

Bandwagons are the best way to RVS because they're the fastest way out of RVS.

Presumes seriousness over a RVS vote. All Alone joined us May 21, 2015, surely he shouldn't be as prickly as this. I'll flag this as a suspicious reaction.

In post 190, All Alone wrote:VOTE: Fraggernaut

IMO it doesn't really seem like he's trying to figure the game out.

I'm honestly not feeling this vote or reason. Are you actually going to lynch someone D1 for that non-supported reason?

In post 199, All Alone wrote:I'm not on my RVS vote. My vote is serious, and it just got even more serious. Your case on me doesn't read like a genuine scumhunt at all.

Yes, All Alone has been very "serious" from the very start.

BulletNLynchproof votes All Alone and he reacts with many facepalms (post 271). He does not at one moment wonder, 'hey is this scum-Fraggernaut, or town-Fraggernaut? It is scum-Fraggernaut, and he doesn't want to hear otherwise. He defends his 'shift of vote to Fraggernaut' saying he does this as scum or town.

All Alone is still on the scum-Fraggernaut case.

In post 338, All Alone wrote:Fraggernaut is 110% scum, turbolynch him good day

All Alone still wants Fraggernaut dead: (post 341, post 487)

This is the first time All Alone has focused on somone other than Fraggernaut:

In post 399, All Alone wrote:This Bullet wagon is lazy and awful. I really don't get any sense of disingenuity out of his reads.

BlockyMan reads like scum. He's vote parking on Cowbells hard and it really doesn't seem to bother him at all that nobody else is following him. He's not doing anything to push a wagon on Cowbells. I doubt a townie would be okay with nobody voting their top scum read like he is. But as scum trying to avoid attention, Blocky's play makes a lot more sense.

Fraggernaut is still today's lynch though. On top of everything else I've mentioned, the "DID I MENTION I HAVE A SOFTCLAIM IN THE PAST FIVE MINUTES" stuff he's pulling is just flagrantly phony. Town PRs have two motives that they have to choose between: making their role known to the town, and keeping their role secret from scum. Fragger's loud softclaiming doesn't benefit either one of those motives. If he wanted his role secret from scum, he wouldn't be advertising it this loudly. And if he wanted his role known to the town, he wouldn't be so vague about what his role is. It reads like he wants to scare town into not voting him because he might be a PR, but doesn't want to actually claim a PR because he doesn't know which claims are safe.

All Alone shits on the BulletNLynchproof wagon. He wants more support on the Fraggernaut wagon.... and a scum read on BlockyMan.

Is All Alone not concerned with the other 8 players in the game?

The fact he is not interested about the other 8 players and merely fixated with his tunnel on Fraggernaut is bad-town/scummy.

@All Alone, take a step back and look through the thread. I'm not saying you're 100% about Fraggernaut, but there's nothing else in your ISO that tells me that you're conscious of finding out who is town/scum.

Null-scum-lean.

Keyser Söze · Post Post #533 (ISO) » Wed Nov 11, 2015 1:14 am

@Vedith - how long have you been playing mafia?

I don't know whether to laugh or cry.

BNL · Post Post #534 (ISO) » Wed Nov 11, 2015 1:17 am

I think that Keyser Soze is quite likely town. How he is devoted to the game, and analysing the game as a whole is something a townie will want to do. Also his analyses do seem very well thought out, quite reasonable and original too.

Vedith · Post Post #535 (ISO) » Wed Nov 11, 2015 1:18 am

In post 533, Keyser Söze wrote:@Vedith - how long have you been playing mafia?

Just over a week. Maybe 2 weeks.

Vedith · Post Post #536 (ISO) » Wed Nov 11, 2015 1:19 am

In post 530, Frozen Angel wrote:Well! I think you just said you have a power to use in nite phase . am I mistaking?

I actually said that I should be able to give you scum tomorrow.

Fraggernaut · Post Post #537 (ISO) » Wed Nov 11, 2015 1:22 am

@Keyser What do you think of the people who hopped off my wagon first? In a world where there is at least one or two that were on my wagon; is the scum still on my wagon or off it?

Keyser Söze · Post Post #538 (ISO) » Wed Nov 11, 2015 1:22 am

In post 529, Vedith wrote:
In post 523, Fraggernaut wrote:Would be excellent if a good portion of players who agreed to join this game would actually take part in the game. Having multiple lurkers only harms town.

This is a pro town comment, just saying.

Pro town yes, but it can be said by both town or scum. Thus null, just saying.

Vedith · Post Post #539 (ISO) » Wed Nov 11, 2015 1:25 am

In post 538, Keyser Söze wrote:Pro town yes, but it can be said by both town or scum. Thus null, just saying.

I don't think you understand how to give or take town points to/from people

Anything done CAN be done by either align.

This is a pro town comment. He gets town points. Not enough to be in my town part though.

Keyser Söze · Post Post #540 (ISO) » Wed Nov 11, 2015 1:27 am

Hmm, do I (a) talk about the elephant in the room... or (b) let it resolve itself?

Fraggernaut · Post Post #541 (ISO) » Wed Nov 11, 2015 1:29 am

In post 538, Keyser Söze wrote:
In post 529, Vedith wrote:
In post 523, Fraggernaut wrote:Would be excellent if a good portion of players who agreed to join this game would actually take part in the game. Having multiple lurkers only harms town.

This is a pro town comment, just saying.

Pro town yes, but it can be said by both town or scum. Thus null, just saying.

Do you honestly believe I would say this as scum? You thought the same thing either the first or second game we played together & it lead to you getting me mislynched as town. I'm going to take this with a grain of salt.

Vedith · Post Post #542 (ISO) » Wed Nov 11, 2015 1:30 am

In post 541, Fraggernaut wrote:Do you honestly believe I would say this as scum? You thought the same thing either the first or second game we played together & it lead to you getting me mislynched as town. I'm going to take this with a grain of salt.

Just ignore him, he may be town but that doesn't mean he has a clue of what he's doing...

Keyser Söze · Post Post #543 (ISO) » Wed Nov 11, 2015 1:34 am

In post 539, Vedith wrote:
In post 538, Keyser Söze wrote:Pro town yes, but it can be said by both town or scum. Thus null, just saying.

I don't think you understand how to give or take town points to/from people

Anything done CAN be done by either align.

This is a pro town comment. He gets town points. Not enough to be in my town part though.

Yes,

it is a Pro Town comment

, but why couldn't scum have made that observation? That is an easy town-point to give out.

Anyway, Fraggernaut isn't even in your 'town pile'.

In post 541, Fraggernaut wrote:Do you honestly believe I would say this as scum? You thought the same thing either the first or second game we played together & it lead to you getting me mislynched as town. I'm going to take this with a grain of salt.

I wasn't calling you scum you

(your wagon is looking quite tempting now

do you think before you hit Submit? Seriously.) I'm saying that just because it is a pro-town thing to say, it doesn't mean that it's coming from town. It is null.

Vedith · Post Post #544 (ISO) » Wed Nov 11, 2015 1:35 am

In post 543, Keyser Söze wrote:Anyway, Fraggernaut isn't even in your 'town pile'.

That's what I said, well done.

Fraggernaut · Post Post #545 (ISO) » Wed Nov 11, 2015 1:35 am

@Keyser I have a question for you. May be considered a Meta question or one to stroke my own ego but I'm going to ask it. Do you honestly believe that myself, with only four or five completed games (all as town) that I have the capability to 100% replicate or emulate my town game as scum?

Frozen Angel · Post Post #546 (ISO) » Wed Nov 11, 2015 1:37 am

W8 W8! Vedith you just said that we should ignore a town member?! and your talking directly to frag about that?!

Come on! Is this a scum lobbying or something?

Vedith wrote:
In post 543, Keyser Söze wrote:Anyway, Fraggernaut isn't even in your 'town pile'.

That's what I said, well done.

Well then whay are you talking directly to him about ignoring a town member?!

Frozen Angel · Post Post #547 (ISO) » Wed Nov 11, 2015 1:37 am

I just can't sum up your posts ... :/

Keyser Söze · Post Post #548 (ISO) » Wed Nov 11, 2015 1:41 am

In post 535, Vedith wrote:
In post 533, Keyser Söze wrote:@Vedith - how long have you been playing mafia?

Just over a week. Maybe 2 weeks.

Can you answer the question. This page is an utter horror show.

In post 545, Fraggernaut wrote:@Keyser I have a question for you. May be considered a Meta question or one to stroke my own ego but I'm going to ask it. Do you honestly believe that myself, with only four or five completed games (all as town) that I have the capability to 100% replicate or emulate my town game as scum?

@Fraggernaut, do you want to be lynched today?

Fraggernaut · Post Post #549 (ISO) » Wed Nov 11, 2015 1:42 am

In post 543, Keyser Söze wrote:
In post 539, Vedith wrote:
In post 538, Keyser Söze wrote:Pro town yes, but it can be said by both town or scum. Thus null, just saying.

I don't think you understand how to give or take town points to/from people

Anything done CAN be done by either align.

This is a pro town comment. He gets town points. Not enough to be in my town part though.

Yes,
it is a Pro Town comment
, but why couldn't scum have made that observation? That is an easy town-point to give out.

Anyway, Fraggernaut isn't even in your 'town pile'.

In post 541, Fraggernaut wrote:Do you honestly believe I would say this as scum? You thought the same thing either the first or second game we played together & it lead to you getting me mislynched as town. I'm going to take this with a grain of salt.

I wasn't calling you scum you (your wagon is looking quite tempting now do you think before you hit Submit? Seriously.) I'm saying that just because it is a pro-town thing to say, it doesn't mean that it's coming from town. It is null.

Scum would be more worried about thinking before they post from my perspective because they're more worried about what the town thinks of them. I post my thoughts & what I'm thinking as I see fit.