MAFIACEPTION GAME OVER! Flawless Victory!

[Fro99er]

Will catch up this afternoon. Crazy weekend.

[ChaosOmega]

I'm back. I'll keep my vote on Pepto for now. It looks like no one said anything about his last post (654). Maybe it's just me, but it reads like a slip that he knows Mario is town.

If Pepto flips scum, Mario is essentially confirmed town to me. (more a note to myself than anything)

I get why people want Anatole lynched, but I don't think he's scum. More of a gut feeling than anything, though. 783 in particular reads very genuine to me.

[Titus]

Your lack of gripe with Ricastle dodging scum hunting shows a selective bias. I can't trust or sort you. You have no consistency.

also youre calling me incomprehensible.
but i literally have no idea what youre trying to say here.
and its probably because youre being incoherent.
so eat it.

It's absolutely clear here. Ricastle said there was nothing to engage with 700 posts in the game, threw out blanket reads and was unwilling to explain them. You ignored that. Pretty fucking clear English there. Your reads have no consistency.

[Porochaz]

I've tried with this thread over the past day or two but my anger has dissipated into something else and I've realised that I don't have much to say in response to Tammys post, and CO's post I probably should respond to CO but I should point out that when I say perspective I mean our experiences that lead up to this game rather than this game itself. A lot of my rebuttals would have been around the lines of being impatient and you are being quibbly, which aren't great arguments but I do think they hold at least a little weight. But a lot of my play has been influenced by real life crap (mainly) and it came to a head this weekend and whilst not an excuse to a reason why you shouldn't vote me, I can't say my play hasn't been affected by it.

It's past for now(mostly) but as I said, my anger has given way to a sadness type of thing, which I need to get rid of and put this past week or so behind me. So I said in an earlier post Im taking a few days break from this site as a whole (except maybe a votecount or two in my own game), I'll be back Wednesday or Thursday, where I will try and press the reset button on myself, as much as I can, and look at the game in my happy, sunny outlook.

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=61545 - most recent town game
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=55&t=53159 - most recent scum game

mod, I am V/LA until Thursday, I proxy my vote to Fro99er, unless he tries to vote me with my vote

[Anatole Kuragin]

@Anatole: How do you know ABR is town?

I don't.

[farside22]

Titus:

Disagree. I think PV has contributed a lot early. I haven't seen PV troll or contribute heavily early much lately. He's decently active. I don't really care for it here. I'm not certain about this PV but I like it. This PV reminds me of Birds of Prey PV, and I like that PV.

You read this as contributing a lot early?
If so we need a longer chat.

[Anatole Kuragin]

Titus:

Disagree. I think PV has contributed a lot early. I haven't seen PV troll or contribute heavily early much lately. He's decently active. I don't really care for it here. I'm not certain about this PV but I like it. This PV reminds me of Birds of Prey PV, and I like that PV.

You read this as contributing a lot early?
If so we need a longer chat.

I actually agree with farside here. Titus + Pere are probably scumbuddies if we're honest with ourselves.

[Titus]

@farside, yup. Compare to most of PV's other games. He's massive prod dodge.

[Peptobislawl]

I'm back. I'll keep my vote on Pepto for now. It looks like no one said anything about his last post (654). Maybe it's just me, but it reads like a slip that he knows Mario is town.

If Pepto flips scum, Mario is essentially confirmed town to me. (more a note to myself than anything)

I get why people want Anatole lynched, but I don't think he's scum. More of a gut feeling than anything, though. 783 in particular reads very genuine to me.

I meant to say quicklynch in that post, but I'm super busy and did'nt notice.

So busy in fact, that

I am requesting replacement from this game

[farside22]

@farside, yup. Compare to most of PV's other games. He's massive prod dodge.

So why did you say early this?

PereV reads scummy but not sure if he's scum or just lurks a lot.

[farside22]

Titus:

Disagree. I think PV has contributed a lot early. I haven't seen PV troll or contribute heavily early much lately. He's decently active. I don't really care for it here. I'm not certain about this PV but I like it. This PV reminds me of Birds of Prey PV, and I like that PV.

You read this as contributing a lot early?
If so we need a longer chat.

I actually agree with farside here. Titus + Pere are probably scumbuddies if we're honest with ourselves.

Comments like this will have me keeping my vote on you

[Ricastle]

It's absolutely clear here. Ricastle said there was nothing to engage with 700 posts in the game, threw out blanket reads and was unwilling to explain them. You ignored that. Pretty fucking clear English there. Your reads have no consistency.

I never explain all my reads in one go, I know you know that. If you wanted reasons for specific reads why didn't you just ask?

[Anatole Kuragin]

Titus:

Disagree. I think PV has contributed a lot early. I haven't seen PV troll or contribute heavily early much lately. He's decently active. I don't really care for it here. I'm not certain about this PV but I like it. This PV reminds me of Birds of Prey PV, and I like that PV.

You read this as contributing a lot early?
If so we need a longer chat.

I actually agree with farside here. Titus + Pere are probably scumbuddies if we're honest with ourselves.

Comments like this will have me keeping my vote on you

I knew there had to be some reason since my alignment isn't being considered

[Marquis]

looks for vc, fails, turns post into prod dodge for now

[PeregrineV]

Hello all. Monday post. Will catch up today or tomorrow.

[Marquis]

i so wish i had the motivation to drive this game away from a town to a scum lynch rn

:(

we will see

[MarioManiac4]

I'm back. I'll keep my vote on Pepto for now. It looks like no one said anything about his last post (654). Maybe it's just me, but it reads like a slip that he knows Mario is town.

If Pepto flips scum, Mario is essentially confirmed town to me. (more a note to myself than anything)

I get why people want Anatole lynched, but I don't think he's scum. More of a gut feeling than anything, though. 783 in particular reads very genuine to me.

I meant to say quicklynch in that post, but I'm super busy and did'nt notice.

So busy in fact, that

I am requesting replacement from this game

this post is incredibly town
not

[Ranger]

Catching up

Will catch up this afternoon. Crazy weekend.

looks for vc, fails, turns post into prod dodge for now

Hello all. Monday post. Will catch up today or tomorrow.

...

Well then

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[Bulbazak]

@Anatole: How do you know ABR is town?

I don't.

But your reason for not wanting to lynch ABR was that he was your favorite

town

player. Not favorite player in general or "I want to give ABR time to post, because I like him as town" or something (even though I don't think most people would go with the latter. Normally just the former). You started with the assumption of him being town, even though, like you said, he hasn't really posted, meaning there's no way you could really come to that conclusion. There's also the question of why you focused on town specifically instead of him being a player in general.

[Gorkington]

Your reads have no consistency.

oh i get it.
your point is still either dumb or willfully ignorant of context though.
different players play differently.
i think you avoiding scumhunting is scummy in the context of how you play as scum.
i think ricastle not providing as much content as he normally does it about as scummy as anen's lack of content was in three pronged. because he doesnt strike me as necessarily the kind of player that drives the gamestate on d1 every single game hes in as town and thus feel null towards him.
see the difference?
you cant apply the same tells to every player because nobody plays the same way.

[Glork]

Vote count remains unchanged:

Vote Count 1.10

Anatole Kuragin 6 (Spiffeh, Titus, Ricastle, farside22, Bulbazak, Ranger)
Peptobislawl 4 (MarioManiac4, PeregrineV, Gorkington, ChaosOmega)
MarioManiac4 3 (Dongempire, Albert B. Rampage, Peptobislawl)
Titus 3 (Katsuki, Porochaz, Marquis)
Porochaz 1 (Fro99er)
Spiffeh 1 (Anatole Kuragin)

Albert B. Rampage is on V/LA through Thursday, November 19.
Porochaz is on V/LA through Wednesday, November 18.
Porochaz's vote has been proxied to Fro99er.

With 21 alive, it takes 12 to lynch.
Deadline is November 22, 2:00pm EST

Searching for a replacement for Peptobislawl.

[farside22]

If I vote titus does another wagon magically appear?

I still don't see why people are pushing against anatole when he's done nothing this game either.
I really hate seeing X can do it but Y can't.
Yeah some is meta in the game of ric, titus, pere.
But someone are just ignored because what you never played with the dude or something?

[Gorkington]

when theres 21 people?
i dont see why not.

i havent seen anything particularly substantive about ricastle being scum.
maybe i would feel more like i was deliberately ignoring ricastle if that wasnt the case?

and again, like.
people not doing anything isnt inherently scummy.
saint, xtoxm, bacde, anen and misaka did barely anything in three pronged.
all of them were town.
lack of content is annoying and shouldnt be rewarded, but im not going to throw a dagger in the dark just because someone is being inactive unless the purpose is moreso to cull the fat from the game rather than trying to find scum.

[Titus]

@farside, yup. Compare to most of PV's other games. He's massive prod dodge.

So why did you say early this?

PereV reads scummy but not sure if he's scum or just lurks a lot.

Yes. His posts read scummy. I wasn't sure if he was getting picked on for being active or not. I have had conflict with PerV in Deep Space Nine where I thought he was scum, but he wasn't. He lurked and prod dodged there.

If you're going to vote me, vote me. Don't pretend it's because your ego isn't bruised.

[Titus]

If I vote titus does another wagon magically appear?

I still don't see why people are pushing against anatole when he's done nothing this game either.
I really hate seeing X can do it but Y can't.
Yeah some is meta in the game of ric, titus, pere.
But someone are just ignored because what you never played with the dude or something?

That's exactly why I think Ricastle's scum. He literally recycled my posts but removed the context.

The fact Gork didn't see this and now trying to argue that it's all Titus specific is shit.

That's what I call a double standard.