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Post Post #3100 (ISO) » Sat Nov 21, 2015 7:17 pm

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In post 3096, Reasonably Rational wrote:And if you are so sure, why no vote or even direct question(s) for us?

becuz we're scumz and i'm... uh... contradicting myself.

what are you even implying? you're the last person to be criticizing when i vote, esp. considering i'm in a hydra.
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Post Post #3101 (ISO) » Sat Nov 21, 2015 7:18 pm

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In post 3096, Reasonably Rational wrote:Oh look, here you are again throwing shade on someone. But no questions for firebringer, nor a vote. It's almost like you are suggesting various people who might be scum and waiting to see if someone else will take the lead. What's up with that? You have come across as pretty strong and not scummy most of the game, but this day start feels super wrong from you.

OH JEEZ ONLY SCUM WANT TO MAYBE TAKE THINGS SLOW RIGHT NOW
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Post Post #3102 (ISO) » Sat Nov 21, 2015 7:18 pm

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seriously, my style has been to thought vomit all game and just now you have an issue with it?
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Post Post #3103 (ISO) » Sat Nov 21, 2015 7:22 pm

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In post 3102, Heartless wrote:seriously, my style has been to thought vomit all game and just now you have an issue with it?


Nope. I've had problems with it before. It's just that today I'm re-evaluating everyone and the way you started out the day raised a lot of questions.
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Post Post #3104 (ISO) » Sat Nov 21, 2015 7:26 pm

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that's my playstyle. so... the number of fucks i give about the "problem" you have with it is... zero.

here's a question for you: where were you when the lickety vs ank wagon stuff was going down yesterday?
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Post Post #3105 (ISO) » Sat Nov 21, 2015 7:26 pm

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not yesterday. day 3.
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Post Post #3106 (ISO) » Sat Nov 21, 2015 7:28 pm

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wait a second... is this cerb or drixx?
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Post Post #3107 (ISO) » Sat Nov 21, 2015 7:29 pm

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Setup spec won me a game here soooooo yes it is a valid argument.

It doesn't make sense for all three of jailkeeper bomb and bp exist.
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Post Post #3108 (ISO) » Sat Nov 21, 2015 7:41 pm

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In post 3107, Spiffeh wrote:Setup spec won me a game here soooooo yes it is a valid argument.

It doesn't make sense for all three of jailkeeper bomb and bp exist.


Actually it sort of does. Have you looked at the powers on the scum team flips? They had a vanilla cop (I believe that tells them whether someone has a role or not?), and a Ninja ... that we've seen.

There's also two people killing every night, who have never targeted the same targets. That's like bordering on absurd and making me a little paranoid, and I
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think we should be assuming SK over vig for safety.

I'm not willing to bet the game on setup spec, especially when our utility potentially forces these two killers to end up
not
producing two bodies should we have a (presumed) SK in play, meaning that today can't end the game no matter what. Unless my count is off, I believe tomorrow is when you paranoia lynch us. Otherwise let us do our thing. There's enough information now, especially now that we can re-evaluate with the mason pairing known, that we might be able to actually hand you scum on a silver platter.

This is the part of the game where Cerb and I nail it.

The way I see it, we should be looking for a scum who has been among those running the town and we need to be looking for signs of an SK. I don't like the constant assumption of Vig that permeates the posts of a lot of now known townies. It's an assumption and I've seen that kind of assumption torpedo really good town games before.

And sorry I left my sig off a couple posts. We were posting back and forth quickly for a moment there. I personally need to sleep. Consider what I'm saying because we've been honest all game and just defaulting on us isn't going to work. This needs to be figured out, and that starts with throwing out assumptions and reviewing things with updated prior assumptions;
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since we had masons and their interactions now have a proper context.

I was actually suspecting Kthxbye yesterday, which makes me feel dumb, because I intentionally look for town crumbing to help me figure out the game, and I didn't catch a thing from either of them. Usually I'm really good at it and it helps a lot in figuring out who is town which makes POE so much easier.

Anyway, I'm rambling because I'm tired. Cerb is in a different timezone so he may show up. I've left him a note so we can get together before our DnD game tomorrow and re-evaluate (assuming I can pry his attention away from Fallout 4 ... *sigh*).

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Post Post #3109 (ISO) » Sat Nov 21, 2015 7:42 pm

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In post 3107, Spiffeh wrote:Setup spec won me a game here soooooo yes it is a valid argument.

It doesn't make sense for all three of jailkeeper bomb and bp exist.

a thought i just had...

a strongman + a ninja COULD balance out all the town pr's that flipped w/ the bp being town
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Post Post #3110 (ISO) » Sat Nov 21, 2015 7:46 pm

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In post 3109, Heartless wrote:
In post 3107, Spiffeh wrote:Setup spec won me a game here soooooo yes it is a valid argument.

It doesn't make sense for all three of jailkeeper bomb and bp exist.

a thought i just had...

a strongman + a ninja COULD balance out all the town pr's that flipped w/ the bp being town


That makes some sense. Let us do our thing and see what we find? Presuming an SK, if we could lynch a posited strongman today, that would go a long way towards easing paranoia about us (and would be the 2nd scum we made the primary case against), and our utility would be pretty strong assuming the SK can't get through our BP. I really have to sleep now. I'll be back in less than 8 hours.

~Drixx.

PS - I'm not sure what was up on the day you asked about. I had a death in the family at the end of October and some illness afterward. It may fall in that period where Cerb was carrying the hydra basically without me. I'll check in the morning if that's okay?
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Post Post #3111 (ISO) » Sat Nov 21, 2015 7:47 pm

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NO I DEMAND ANSWER RIGHT NOW
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Post Post #3112 (ISO) » Sat Nov 21, 2015 7:47 pm

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of course tomorrow's ok...
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Post Post #3113 (ISO) » Sat Nov 21, 2015 7:53 pm

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In post 3098, Reasonably Rational wrote:Weird observation: Pisskop has been speculating that the 2nd kill was an SK all game, but then calls it a good vig kill at day start. Heartless, meanwhile, has been calling it a Vig but then changes his mind at day start and says it's a Serial Killer.

Antihero's been calling it a vigilante based on the abstract notion of the kills "making sense" as vig kills and mod meta.

My question
now
is: Who is this vig? If you cross-reference the kills to in-thread reads, the "vigilante" is nobody.
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Post Post #3114 (ISO) » Sat Nov 21, 2015 8:24 pm

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In post 3096, Reasonably Rational wrote:Oh look, here you are again throwing shade on someone. But no questions for firebringer, nor a vote. It's almost like you are suggesting various people who might be scum and waiting to see if someone else will take the lead. What's up with that? You have come across as pretty strong and not scummy most of the game, but this day start feels super wrong from you.

Anti's not voting because he's waiting for
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I'm not ready to default to a Reasonably Rational lynch myself. Firebringer did momentarily abandon the Ankamius wagon for the Lickety wagon on Day 3. What has me more worried is how his hard line Vedith defense just kind of went away for no reason. The only thing about a Firebringer theory is that he would've had to have done an awful lot of bussing this game. From what I recall, he was on all three scum lynches. I also recall that TWIE pushed for the Lickety counterwagon. He made a comment that Lickety would be a superior lynch to Ank or something to that effect. I'm relying on memory here and will have to fact check myself.
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Post Post #3115 (ISO) » Sun Nov 22, 2015 2:56 am

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In post 3114, Heartless wrote:Firebringer did momentarily abandon the Ankamius wagon for the Lickety wagon on Day 3. What has me more worried is how his hard line Vedith defense just kind of went away for no reason.

Are you god damn serious?

Fuck you Heartless likely Anti Hero.

So fuck done with this game.
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Post Post #3116 (ISO) » Sun Nov 22, 2015 2:57 am

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I am seriously just fed up with his BS.
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Post Post #3117 (ISO) » Sun Nov 22, 2015 3:02 am

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Fb why are you insulted by that lol
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Post Post #3118 (ISO) » Sun Nov 22, 2015 3:03 am

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In post 3117, Spiffeh wrote:Fb why are you insulted by that lol

BECAUSE I WAS TOLD TO SHEEP HIM BY HIM

THEN HE FUCKING CALLS ME FUCKING SCUM FOR IT

ITS THE MOST SHIT FOR SHIT REASONS TO CALL ME SCUM
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Post Post #3119 (ISO) » Sun Nov 22, 2015 4:55 am

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It's still a vig

There are probably just five scum
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Post Post #3120 (ISO) » Sun Nov 22, 2015 4:56 am

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Looking at the alive list, I kind of think it just has to be Spiffeh.
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Post Post #3121 (ISO) » Sun Nov 22, 2015 4:57 am

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And I don't mean that I think he's the vig.
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Post Post #3122 (ISO) » Sun Nov 22, 2015 4:59 am

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I just realized that Herry wasn't a vig kill

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Post Post #3123 (ISO) » Sun Nov 22, 2015 5:54 am

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In post 3118, Firebringer wrote:
In post 3117, Spiffeh wrote:Fb why are you insulted by that lol

BECAUSE I WAS TOLD TO SHEEP HIM BY HIM

THEN HE FUCKING CALLS ME FUCKING SCUM FOR IT

ITS THE MOST SHIT FOR SHIT REASONS TO CALL ME SCUM

It's actually TTH, and please chill the fuck out because I'm not being insulting. I was also not talking about yesterday, when Anti was asking to sheep you, but this:
In post 2762, Firebringer wrote:I am sick of jumping in and off wagons!!!
VOTE: Ankamius
I want LQ and Vedith dead.

Hey scum, do me favor if neither of those two are one of your own, please kill them.

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This happened on Day 3. Up until this point, you were
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