Mini 1735 - Mana Khemia: Mafia in Al-Revis [End]

Titus · Post Post #1600 (ISO) » Mon Nov 23, 2015 4:22 pm

Or Reflexive jailkeeper?

3dicerolling · Post Post #1601 (ISO) » Mon Nov 23, 2015 4:22 pm

In post 1599, Titus wrote:
In post 1596, 3dicerolling wrote:Honestly, I don't think spiffeh scum makes sense with the setup either. Ascetic with a doctor means the only person suzune could protect is antihero, which isn't very powerful at all.

Reflexive roleblocker instead?

3dicerolling · Post Post #1602 (ISO) » Mon Nov 23, 2015 4:24 pm

Seriously though, is that even a thing?

Titus · Post Post #1603 (ISO) » Mon Nov 23, 2015 4:28 pm

Yes. Bulbazak had the role in a large theme. We Didn't Play test This.

3dicerolling · Post Post #1604 (ISO) » Mon Nov 23, 2015 4:30 pm

Has it occured in more than one game?

Titus · Post Post #1605 (ISO) » Mon Nov 23, 2015 4:31 pm

My gut seriously tells me FB is town. My gut hasn't read FB wrong. Ever.

My head says lynch the SK. Sort this out tomorrow with MM's role block.

CharlotteBebe · Post Post #1606 (ISO) » Mon Nov 23, 2015 4:32 pm

do you think hes like..
a 1-shot reflexive roleblocker then? :/
even then it still makes his role kind of shitty for the scumteam in terms of synergy with a mafia doctor.

CharlotteBebe · Post Post #1607 (ISO) » Mon Nov 23, 2015 4:32 pm

im probably not gonna vote for anyone but 3dice, but i dont mind talking it out with him in the meantime!

Titus · Post Post #1608 (ISO) » Mon Nov 23, 2015 4:32 pm

In post 1604, 3dicerolling wrote:Has it occured in more than one game?

Voteless player after D4 has never occurred as far as I know.

Titus · Post Post #1609 (ISO) » Mon Nov 23, 2015 4:33 pm

In post 1606, CharlotteBebe wrote:do you think hes like..
a 1-shot reflexive roleblocker then? :/
even then it still makes his role kind of shitty for the scumteam in terms of synergy with a mafia doctor.

Who said one shot?

CharlotteBebe · Post Post #1610 (ISO) » Mon Nov 23, 2015 4:33 pm

well like, itd be like..
incredibly risky for him to claim that hes 1-shot ascetic and then be able to be targeted again after that.

Titus · Post Post #1611 (ISO) » Mon Nov 23, 2015 4:36 pm

By who?

3dicerolling · Post Post #1612 (ISO) » Mon Nov 23, 2015 4:38 pm

In post 1608, Titus wrote:
In post 1604, 3dicerolling wrote:Has it occured in more than one game?

Voteless player after D4 has never occurred as far as I know.

But you are wrong about my role? (This will of course, be apparent after my flip, but play along for now)

CharlotteBebe · Post Post #1613 (ISO) » Mon Nov 23, 2015 4:39 pm

just like in general?
would you as scum set out a claim thats easily disproved?

Titus · Post Post #1614 (ISO) » Mon Nov 23, 2015 4:40 pm

In post 1612, 3dicerolling wrote:
In post 1608, Titus wrote:
In post 1604, 3dicerolling wrote:Has it occured in more than one game?

Voteless player after D4 has never occurred as far as I know.

But you are wrong about my role? (This will of course, be apparent after my flip, but play along for now)

I see no evidence of that.

If Spiffeh is a reflexive roleblocker/jailkeepers and you're investigation immune, the setup balances fine.

CharlotteBebe · Post Post #1615 (ISO) » Mon Nov 23, 2015 4:41 pm

ank and i hadnt fullclaimed.
we could have had something which could mess with a fakeclaim like that.

you hadnt fullclaimed.

we could have no lynched until we proved whether spiff was telling the truth or not.

Titus · Post Post #1616 (ISO) » Mon Nov 23, 2015 4:42 pm

In post 1613, CharlotteBebe wrote:just like in general?
would you as scum set out a claim thats easily disproved?

How is Spifeh's claim disproven ever?

Titus · Post Post #1617 (ISO) » Mon Nov 23, 2015 4:42 pm

In post 1615, CharlotteBebe wrote:ank and i hadnt fullclaimed.
we could have had something which could mess with a fakeclaim like that.

you hadnt fullclaimed.

we could have no lynched until we proved whether spiff was telling the truth or not.

I had. You had enough with tracker.

No one would ever get a result.

CharlotteBebe · Post Post #1618 (ISO) » Mon Nov 23, 2015 4:42 pm

theres no reason to fakeclaim something like that.
if hes not 1-shot ascetic, then hes 1-shot reflexive roleblocker at worst.

p-edit: if hes a multi-shot and he reflexively roleblocks ANYONE after the first time it happens then hes confirmed scum.
why would he do that to himself?
that would be fucking dumb.

3dicerolling · Post Post #1619 (ISO) » Mon Nov 23, 2015 4:43 pm

The evidence will come in my flip. You will see that not every role you see in other setups will be in this one.

Titus · Post Post #1620 (ISO) » Mon Nov 23, 2015 4:44 pm

In post 1618, CharlotteBebe wrote:theres no reason to fakeclaim something like that.
if hes not 1-shot ascetic, then hes 1-shot reflexive roleblocker at worst.

p-edit: if hes a multi-shot and he reflexively roleblocks ANYONE after the first time it happens then hes confirmed scum.
why would he do that to himself?
that would be fucking dumb.

And how would anyone know if FB is lynched?

CharlotteBebe · Post Post #1621 (ISO) » Mon Nov 23, 2015 4:44 pm

and again like.. isnt that still just like.. broken utility for scum?
why have a mafia doctor then? it doesnt make any sense :/

CharlotteBebe · Post Post #1622 (ISO) » Mon Nov 23, 2015 4:46 pm

i wont be obnoxious about it.
im pretty fine with lynching 3dice because i think youre right there.
but like.
i just really agree with 3dice that scum having a role that actively works against their synergy just doesnt seem like something that would actually happen.

Firebringer · Post Post #1623 (ISO) » Mon Nov 23, 2015 4:48 pm

I like potatoes, what do you guys like?

3dicerolling · Post Post #1624 (ISO) » Mon Nov 23, 2015 4:49 pm

There has been one more thing that's been bugging me.

@Titus - IF delay does happen before roleblock, then my shot will hit Firebringer and we will either lose or win, correct?