Mini 1729 - History Mafia II END

[Sir Bastion]

at the start of today we had 8 alive and possibly 3 scum

modkilled removed 1 town and 1 scum

it is currently 7 town and possibly 2 scum

either that or we've confused each other somehow?

@Dwlee why the not lynch vote?

[Starbuck]

@Dwlee why the not lynch vote?

[TonyMontana]

at the start of today we had 8 alive and possibly 3 scum

modkilled removed 1 town and 1 scum

it is currently 7 town and possibly 2 scum

either that or we've confused each other somehow?

I don't understand what's confusing.
If we're in mylo now, we were in mylo at the start of the day.
Your scenario is if we lose 2 towns and a vote by tomorrow, scum controls half the town.
If we lost 2 towns and a vote before the modkills, the scum would control half the town now too.

How can you suggest us being in mylo, and then act surprised that dwlee votes nolynch. If you're genuinly concerned we are in mylo, then nolynch is a valid option.

[Sir Bastion]

Ok I see the confusion

I thought you were saying scum would have controlled half the town already today if it wasnt for the modkills

If we mislynched instead of getting the modkills, we would be at 3 scum and 6 votes

now

.

As for no lynch
It's a valid option to discuss not to be thrown out naked

[Dwlee99]

There is only 7 left with 2 scum. So if we mislynch that's 5 to 2 tomorrow. For some reason I thought that it was MYLO today from bastion's post.
UNVOTE: No lynch
But the votes are 4 to 2 then so a mislynch would lose the game. So we have a mislynch and a no lynch. Right?

[Sir Bastion]

...


dwlee you are confusing yourself now

it's 4 votes in total with 2 of them being scum.

not 4 town and 2 scum

thats our current situation.

[Starbuck]

So Sir Bastion, how are you certain that two of the votes that are available are scum? That feels like a slip to me.

[Starbuck]

Because, technically, what you just did was confirm me as town (which I already know that I am).

[Sir Bastion]

So Sir Bastion, how are you certain that two of the votes that are available are scum? That feels like a slip to me.

not really, more of a shorthand cause the topic had already established back quite a few posts that we were discussing with the potential of there being 3 scum with 2 remaining, it had gone back and forth so much I just gave up on writing possible everytime.

If there were more then 2 remaining then they would already hold the majority of votes and if there is less then 2 remaining then this is not an issue yet.

Because, technically, what you just did was confirm me as town (which I already know that I am).

Perhaps. If we agree the power is a scum controlled shot then yes it would have confirmed you and BC as town and we now have 3 confirmed town players in a game of 7 and the focus should be on me, spiffah, Dwlee and Errent.

But

thats if it is a scum controlled shot, or even a shot and not some sort of side effect to another ability.

The only theory that's not been disproven yet (or even proven) is that it affects only characters with female flavours and that still leaves it open for scum to turn it on one of their own (if they have a female member) to create the illusion they are town while also excluding them from suspicion about their vote etc. The other theory we can deduce is they can only do it once per person since they didnt do it to BC twice in a row.


But if it is a scum power that targets players the issue I am asking that still hasnt been answered would tomorrow just end when it's 2 scum and 2 town able to vote? Or would such a power be considered non-normal and therefore the notion of it being a scum shot targeting town players should be taken off the table?

[Dwlee99]

smh

[BeardedCat]

I already posted why in response to starbuck, bc.
UNVOTE: Tony
Was there a mason flip? I cannot remember.

This is not town.

I agree with this.

unvote

No one is counterclaiming and MS did breadcrumb it (or outright claim it) on day 1 329

I assume then you are Remus?

Okay, so you were paying enough attention to notice there was a mason who flipped Romulus, and Remus is the other obvious choice for the remaining mason, and Remus is a male name, and because of all the gender claims the mason pool was [starbuck, tony, spiffeh] at that point, but because they crumbed it, it was clear enough that it was Tony. Still, there was some hope that the scumteam hadn't figured all that out. And yet you asked Starbuck to confirm her gender, removing her from the mason pool.

Then you are wrong, tony. lol
VOTE: Nolynch

I know you've unvoted by now, but no lynch with a confirmed town is not a good play because it doesn't give us any information; the confirmed town will just be nightkilled. No lynch is the right play when there are town looking players but nobody is confirmed because we can do nightkill analysis.


I'm caught up and I'm happy lynching Spiffeh, Bastion, and dwlee. In that order pretty much.

Deadline is in (expired on 2015-11-25 22:00:00). Please don't let's deadline scramble for the third day in a row.

--P

[Spiffeh]

Still think the last two scum are BC and Starbuck

I would be willing to lynch either with a preference for BC.

I am slightly paranoid of Dwlee pulling the wool over my eyes but I don't have the time to look into that right now so I'll just trust my read.

[Nexus]

Votecount 3.4:

Spiffeh (1)

- TonyMontana

Starbuck (1)

- Spiffeh

Sir Bastion (1)

- BeardedCat,

Not voting (4)

- Errantparabola, Starbuck, Dwlee99, Sir Bastion,

With 7 alive, but 6 votes in play, it takes 4 to lynch. Deadline is at 10 pm GMT on Wednesday 25th November 2015. That's 38 hours from now.

BeardedCat is v/la until Monday.
Errantparabola has been prodded

[Starbuck]

Spiffeh needs more votes.

[BeardedCat]

I agree.

VOTE: Spiffeh

--P

[Sir Bastion]

As Spiffeh is the only one who pushed for a third run up on day 2 that has not been confirmed town I'd be in favour of his lynch.

vote:Spffah

[Spiffeh]

I'm VT

Sorry guys I kinda lost interest half way through and scum are capitalizing on that.

Like notice there's still really no case on me?

[TonyMontana]

Nameclaim

[Spiffeh]

Harold Godwinson

[Sir Bastion]

i'm not jumping to any conclusions on this one and repeating my earlier mistake but the last saxon king of england?

[Dwlee99]

I already posted why in response to starbuck, bc.
UNVOTE: Tony
Was there a mason flip? I cannot remember.

This is not town.

I agree with this.

unvote

No one is counterclaiming and MS did breadcrumb it (or outright claim it) on day 1 329

I assume then you are Remus?

Okay, so you were paying enough attention to notice there was a mason who flipped Romulus, and Remus is the other obvious choice for the remaining mason, and Remus is a male name, and because of all the gender claims the mason pool was [starbuck, tony, spiffeh] at that point, but because they crumbed it, it was clear enough that it was Tony. Still, there was some hope that the scumteam hadn't figured all that out. And yet you asked Starbuck to confirm her gender, removing her from the mason pool.

Then you are wrong, tony. lol
VOTE: Nolynch

I know you've unvoted by now, but no lynch with a confirmed town is not a good play because it doesn't give us any information; the confirmed town will just be nightkilled. No lynch is the right play when there are town looking players but nobody is confirmed because we can do nightkill analysis.


I'm caught up and I'm happy lynching Spiffeh, Bastion, and dwlee. In that order pretty much.

Deadline is in (expired on 2015-11-25 22:00:00). Please don't let's deadline scramble for the third day in a row.

--P

No lynch is always the right option even with a confirmed town because power roles can do stuff during the night. My most recent completed game didn't have a cop but there's almost always one.

[BeardedCat]

No lynch is always the right option even with a confirmed town because power roles can do stuff during the night. My most recent completed game didn't have a cop but there's almost always one.

Call of the Wild - Eliot Ness - Town Gender Cop - Killed Night 1

--P

[Dwlee99]

smh

[Errantparabola]

Ill decide on a vote in about 6 hours
When i do i can guarantee you that it sure as hell wont be spiffeh

[Spiffeh]

VOTE: BeardedCat