LoL eSports Discussion

mykonian · Post Post #5700 (ISO) » Thu Nov 26, 2015 4:10 pm

H2k, but yes, possibly. I personally would take cabochard over odoamne, but then you'd have to worry who'd be shotcalling, I guess. That's not clear cut anyway. Vizicsacsi also a good option there. Jungle is harder to improve on, my issue with jankos is one of style, not of capability. Maybe it works for the team, maybe it doesn't. Vander has more hype than results, so calling him the best in the west in his position is probably a bit too much. I can think of a couple. The other two, sure, you can go with that.

zoraster · Post Post #5701 (ISO) » Thu Nov 26, 2015 5:12 pm

Bro LOVES forgiven. Like when he made that silly bet with me and got off on a technicality

BROseidon · Post Post #5702 (ISO) » Thu Nov 26, 2015 5:23 pm

In post 5698, mykonian wrote:How is that better than the already shown (and largely proven) origen, or even tsm's roster?

Odo>Hauntzer, I would say. Give it a year, and that may flip, but right now Odo is better. Odo > Soaz, imo, but they have different strengths (Odo doesn't tilt nearly as hard, Soaz has a much wider champion pool and goes off more)

Sven and Jankos are pretty even, depending on the day. I would rate both of them above Amazing.

Bjergsen>Ryu>PoE/xPeke

Forgiven>Niels>LiftLift

Kasing, Vander, and Mithy are all hard to rate. If we were to just go off mechanics/obvious impact, Vander is the best, but it's pretty obvious that Kasing and Mithy both contribute in huge ways that are harder to see (and I don't think Vander does as much).

BROseidon · Post Post #5703 (ISO) » Thu Nov 26, 2015 5:24 pm

In post 5701, zoraster wrote:Bro LOVES forgiven. Like when he made that silly bet with me and got off on a technicality

I was right! SK tanked w/o Forgiven!

zoraster · Post Post #5704 (ISO) » Thu Nov 26, 2015 5:28 pm

In post 5703, BROseidon wrote:
In post 5701, zoraster wrote:Bro LOVES forgiven. Like when he made that silly bet with me and got off on a technicality

I was right! SK tanked w/o Forgiven!

Even with him they were clearly outclassed by the end of that split. The new meta was not great for him. The new one should be better?

BROseidon · Post Post #5705 (ISO) » Thu Nov 26, 2015 5:50 pm

Probably. I also think Forgiven's fixed his champ pool weaknesses a fair bit.

zoraster · Post Post #5706 (ISO) » Thu Nov 26, 2015 6:11 pm

I don't think it was that weak, really. I just think the meta shifted to late game carries that didn't really maximize his talents. He was fine on corki and Caitlyn but neither gave him the opportunity to be the beast he was when graves and Lucian were strong.

Voidedmafia · Post Post #5707 (ISO) » Thu Nov 26, 2015 6:55 pm

In post 5706, zoraster wrote:I don't think it was that weak, really. I just think the meta shifted to late game carries that didn't really maximize his talents. He was fine on corki and Caitlyn but neither gave him the opportunity to be the beast he was when graves and Lucian were strong.

That sounds like a champ pool problem to me...

KaleiÐoscøpe · Post Post #5708 (ISO) » Thu Nov 26, 2015 10:00 pm

Who cares. That was six months ago. A lot can change in six months

mykonian · Post Post #5709 (ISO) » Fri Nov 27, 2015 1:46 am

In post 5702, BROseidon wrote:Kasing, Vander, and Mithy are all hard to rate. If we were to just go off mechanics/obvious impact, Vander is the best, but it's pretty obvious that Kasing and Mithy both contribute in huge ways that are harder to see (and I don't think Vander does as much).

I don't think this is a fair representation. Also lets not totally forget about yellowstar.

Vander has had some nice hooks, but the fact that his team has been one of the slower going is on him as well. He has been working very hard on vision in his games, iirc he had a big percentage of wards for eulcs teams as well, but also in absolute numbers. I think it's unfair to limit KaSing's impact only in coms or something, his roaming has been very good, H2K's early and mid game did not come from just loulex. And I'm a fan of mithy, but even if I wasn't, I think you have to see him as the main playmaker of origen. When origin looks really good, mithy has been on fire, generally.

And these guys are proven (sorta in kasing's case). All vander has is a nickname from his thresh play.

BROseidon · Post Post #5710 (ISO) » Fri Nov 27, 2015 3:27 am

Vander's other shit is good too. When Braum was strong, he+Woolite were nearly unstoppable in lane.

BROseidon · Post Post #5711 (ISO) » Fri Nov 27, 2015 3:30 am

In post 5709, mykonian wrote:I don't think this is a fair representation. Also lets not totally forget about yellowstar.

I was also specifically talking about TSM vs H2K vs Origen. Yellowstar isn't on any of those teams, last I checked

We all know Yellowstar is the best western support.

BROseidon · Post Post #5712 (ISO) » Sat Nov 28, 2015 4:26 am

Pobelter to immortals, according to LiftLift.

Doublelift is on fire with the leaks.

quadz08 · Post Post #5713 (ISO) » Sat Nov 28, 2015 4:45 am

2XLIFT 2XGUD

SleepyKrew · Post Post #5714 (ISO) » Sat Nov 28, 2015 1:01 pm

wow you guys just don't care at all about the wildcard all star

Iecerint · Post Post #5715 (ISO) » Sat Nov 28, 2015 1:39 pm

In post 5714, SleepyKrew wrote:wow you guys just don't care at all about the wildcard all star

When I tuned in they were doing Ultimate Bravery.

quadz08 · Post Post #5716 (ISO) » Sat Nov 28, 2015 5:22 pm

Yamato v Rusty 1v1 was pretty entertaining

also Zilean mid from Japan, very exciting

pickemgenius · Post Post #5717 (ISO) » Sat Nov 28, 2015 9:44 pm

Quas off TL

http://www.teamliquidpro.com/news/2015/ ... diego-ruiz

KaleiÐoscøpe · Post Post #5718 (ISO) » Sat Nov 28, 2015 10:35 pm

The wcas is a lot like watching soloq. The second game of sea on day 1 is a great example. Doesn't mean it isn't fun to watch though

Voidedmafia · Post Post #5719 (ISO) » Sun Nov 29, 2015 4:57 am

I'm still betting that Doublelift and TSM are gonna cross each other multiple times before we even get a quarter of the way through the split.

Voidedmafia · Post Post #5720 (ISO) » Sun Nov 29, 2015 5:05 am

YAY DEMAN IS BACK!

Iecerint · Post Post #5721 (ISO) » Sun Nov 29, 2015 5:56 am

In post 5717, pickemgenius wrote:Quas off TL

http://www.teamliquidpro.com/news/2015/ ... diego-ruiz

Tragic

BROseidon · Post Post #5722 (ISO) » Sun Nov 29, 2015 7:55 am

Seems like something pretty bad happened with Quas :/

SleepyKrew · Post Post #5723 (ISO) » Tue Dec 01, 2015 12:37 pm

so my Pick 10 teams are:
Sona, Amumu, Galio, Malphite, Yasuo
Tahm Kench, Singed, Volibear, Skarner, Alistar

Tahm beat Gnar out

BROseidon · Post Post #5724 (ISO) » Tue Dec 01, 2015 1:37 pm

Yellowstar left fnatic.