Mini 1742: game over

[Taly]

Man y'all talked a lot while I wasn't here. talah get less wordy, I had to stop myself from skimming.

VOTE: Wickan first post was shit. Others should vote here as well.

First, what do you think about RC townreading FA with his vote still there? What do you think about FA and talah's back and forth?

Tbh - I'm OK with the RC wagon atm, but I want to hear his response.

I can also do Wickan.... But one post isn't very convincing.

@talah how often are you accused of going too hard too fast? (teehee) Also don't say butthurt it makes you look 13

The sole thing that makes me unsure of talah is that she wasn't this quick to get serious and thoughtful in our town game - then again, that town game was an open that happened almost 5 months ago. So I don't think this holds a lot of water.

@Taly why Bells, talah, and Frozen specifically?

They were the first half to post after me?

I wasn't going to wait until after RVS before trying to get reactions; plus in my post, I was engaging with 4 other people - Titus included. So the likelihood that scum was amongst them was decent but not probable. Since talah sheeped RC, I wanted to see if anyone would sheep me on Titus if I townread them with no problem.

(Which I wouldn't, if nobody has pieced it together, yet.)

Basically, my RVS posts were to get reactions and I just took things as they came in terms of who did what.

In the end, the only 2 people I wasn't sure of are Titus and RC. Titus for reasons since she hasn't really provided anything serious yet, and RC because....

Yeah, I have a helluva time trying to read RC; I wasn't lying about that in the previous game when we were both mafia together.

vote who? I already voted him...

I think he meant Wickan

[JohnnyFarrar]

Vote Wickan, you're not doing that yet.

[Frozen Angel]

I can't understand the whole case against Wickan, explain more.

[Taly]

In retrospect, 39 wasn't very pleasant either.

Wickan, why do you call out FA for covering up her issue with talah but then you vote on RC? I'm not getting a game-solve vibe from you?

It's also a little embarrassing that I still have my RVS vote up...

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Wickan

@talah: I interpreted the townread offer by Titus to be completely in jest

Are you referring to me or Titus...?

[JohnnyFarrar]

woops new page

First, what do you think about RC townreading FA with his vote still there?

Happens. Is there something scummy in there or does it just look funny to you?

What do you think about FA and talah's back and forth?

Frozen took that pressure really well for someone relatively new. talah's stretching. Don't have much of a read on either but if anything Frozen makes me nervous.

I can't understand the whole case against Wickan, explain more.

*sees someone clearly trying to move out of RVS

"woah buddy quit trying so hard"

garbage.

[Frozen Angel]

yep that's actually an interesting case ...

VOTE: Wickan in L3

need to see his reaction about this wagon , first ...

@JohnnyFarrar why am I making you nervous?

[JohnnyFarrar]

You don't act like a person who just started playing

[Taly]

woops new page

First, what do you think about RC townreading FA with his vote still there?

Happens. Is there something scummy in there or does it just look funny to you?

Mostly funny - Unsure of what to think of FA and RC's interactions together atm...

What do you think about FA's vote on Wickan?

yep that's actually an interesting case ...

VOTE: Wickan in L3

need to see his reaction about this wagon , first ...

@JohnnyFarrar why am I making you nervous?

Actually, it's L-2 since Ice was the initial vote.

[Frozen Angel]

You don't act like a person who just started playing

*feeling confident* why there is always one saying that every game?

pedit - whoa - I missed that vote / I won't vote because I like putting people in l2 to see their reactions ...

[Frozen Angel]

I won't unvote* i mean ...

[JohnnyFarrar]

What do you think about FA's vote on Wickan?

Same as yours, too easy. Not gonna fight it right now though because I want this wagon.

[Taly]

What do you think about FA's vote on Wickan?

Same as yours, too easy. Not gonna fight it right now though because I want this wagon.

Well, it's not like keeping my RVS vote up is helping... Especially since I explained its purpose. >_>

yep that's actually an interesting case ...

VOTE: Wickan in L3

need to see his reaction about this wagon , first ...

@JohnnyFarrar why am I making you nervous?

Where did the drop on your talah push came from?

[Frozen Angel]

What drop on talah push? she is in my list for now .

I'm not allowed to have 2 scum reads ?

[mykonian]

votecount

Wickan (3): ICEninja, JohnnyFarrar, Taly, Frozen Angel
Frozen Angel (2): RadiantCowbells, talah
Taly (1): Titus
JohnnyFarrar (1): A Simple Plan
RadiantCowbells (1): Wickan

not voting (1): Albert B. Rampage

[Titus]

Man y'all talked a lot while I wasn't here. talah get less wordy, I had to stop myself from skimming.

VOTE: Wickan first post was shit. Others should vote here as well.

First, what do you think about RC townreading FA with his vote still there? What do you think about FA and talah's back and forth?

Tbh - I'm OK with the RC wagon atm, but I want to hear his response.

I can also do Wickan.... But one post isn't very convincing.

@talah how often are you accused of going too hard too fast? (teehee) Also don't say butthurt it makes you look 13

The sole thing that makes me unsure of talah is that she wasn't this quick to get serious and thoughtful in our town game - then again, that town game was an open that happened almost 5 months ago. So I don't think this holds a lot of water.

@Taly why Bells, talah, and Frozen specifically?

They were the first half to post after me?

I wasn't going to wait until after RVS before trying to get reactions; plus in my post, I was engaging with 4 other people - Titus included. So the likelihood that scum was amongst them was decent but not probable. Since talah sheeped RC, I wanted to see if anyone would sheep me on Titus if I townread them with no problem.

(Which I wouldn't, if nobody has pieced it together, yet.)

Basically, my RVS posts were to get reactions and I just took things as they came in terms of who did what.

In the end, the only 2 people I wasn't sure of are Titus and RC. Titus for reasons since she hasn't really provided anything serious yet, and RC because....

Yeah, I have a helluva time trying to read RC; I wasn't lying about that in the previous game when we were both mafia together.

vote who? I already voted him...

I think he meant Wickan

Vote Wickan, you're not doing that yet.

In retrospect, 39 wasn't very pleasant either.

Wickan, why do you call out FA for covering up her issue with talah but then you vote on RC? I'm not getting a game-solve vibe from you?

It's also a little embarrassing that I still have my RVS vote up...

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Wickan

@talah: I interpreted the townread offer by Titus to be completely in jest

Are you referring to me or Titus...?

yep that's actually an interesting case ...

VOTE: Wickan in L3

need to see his reaction about this wagon , first ...

@JohnnyFarrar why am I making you nervous?

This Wickan wagon is crap.

RC is voting someone who she has a townread on and didn't move the vote. Wicked points this out and votes RC.

Johnny immediately votes Wicked, saying his post is uninspiring. Hold on, wtf? Town shouldn't vote townreads unless deadline is here. Wicked is townish for the pressure. I don't get why a vote there.

Taly agrees with my reasoning on RC, yet votes Wicked anyway...

FA is basically flailing looking for an acceptable wagon.

VOTE: RC

[Frozen Angel]

^ so happy to have you hear my Queen (I mean the queen of moon logic )

But I think RC just simply forget that vote on me. I saw that from him already ... I think it happened in our scum game as well ...

About whole wagon (myself included) I want to hear Wickan's defense first before saying anything else ...

[Taly]

Hold the phone, people.

Well, usually I'm *that* guy that goes in deep on the first page or two but looks like we've got someone already doing it for me. Awesome. Gives me a chance to say "hello" to the handful of players here who I recognize from the old days.

Vote Wickan

. How is it scum motivated to push for information gathering regardless of what page it is?

Scum isn't necessarily. I interpreted that post by Talah as being completely serious, and to the extent it was serious I found it to be trying to find information where there was pretty clearly none. It felt to me like making a mountain out of a molehill.

@talah: I interpreted the townread offer by Titus to be completely in jest. Just normal mafia jabbering. It's not clear to me that that in particular points either way.

I clearly said I have no problems with your

[talah's]

vote. your tone in the other hand , don't seems like town

This is just plain not true. You did have problems with talah's vote; you thought (like I did) that they were making a serious vote off of obviously RVS/spam material (cf 15 22). I dislike that you try to cover this up.

VOTE: RadiantCowbells

What drop on talah push? she is in my list for now .

I'm not allowed to have 2 scum reads ?

yep that's actually an interesting case ...

VOTE: Wickan in L3

need to see his reaction about this wagon , first ...

@JohnnyFarrar why am I making you nervous?

Am I the only one that feels really weird looking at these posts together? Titus, give me some thoughts here.

FA, didn't expect you to question John's suspicion of you while you comply to the wagon; because somehow John's suspicion on Wicked outweighs your initial push against talah?

UNVOTE:

I'm not going to give anyone the satisfaction of putting someone to L-1 this early in the game.

Concerning Wickan's wagon, he hasn't even posted yet and he has enough votes if half of the reasoning against him is just to pressure....

I'll keep my vote for a bit, I want to see RC respond first to his suspicion and my question before I assert it once again.

[ICEninja]

Jeez this activity level. Alright looks like I've already got some catching to do the day after the game started. Expect some serious content from me today.

[JohnnyFarrar]

Titus is here.

1. Decently sure Bells is a boy

2. I don't see Bells as a malicious town voter, I see an RVS that hasn't moved yet. Twisting it and making it look evil just looks silly.

3. I pointed out Wickan's

first

post, not the one you're referring to.

So is there any more to this Bells case of yours or are you just trying really hard to end day one?

[ICEninja]

Alright so page 1 starts off with a bang. There are a few innocent RVS remarks, and talah goes hard, presumably to spark discussion early, which prompts Wickan's vote.

As I've stated, I don't like Wickan's vote because while talah looks to be sparking discussion, Wickan seems to find sparking discussion scummy. He responded to my vote saying:

Scum isn't necessarily. I interpreted that post by Talah as being completely serious, and to the extent it was serious I found it to be trying to find information where there was pretty clearly none. It felt to me like making a mountain out of a molehill.

While I somewhat understand this mindset, it seems a bit weak.

The back and forward between talah and Frozen gives me a town on town vibe, but I'm not sure. Frozen is kind of all over the place and seems difficult to read. As of right now talah definitely feels like he is posting with the most pro-town mindset, actively looking to expose scum.

The thing that's the most interesting to me is how Wickan's wagon got going hard super fast, to L-1. Johnny's push makes total sense and I like his vote, but Taly and Frozen Angel hopped on SUPER fast. The way the wagon stormed ahead really feels like scum got opportunistic and hopped on, and it really looks like either Taly or Frozen. Taly's post 66 looks like scum realizing this and backing out before getting caught too soon. That combined with Frozen seeming more likely town than scum in the 1v1 with talah means Taly is probscum.

Unvote, vote Taly

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[RadiantCowbells]

VOTE: Titus

I'm extremely reticent to vote anything else here.

I think it's abundantly clear that I haven't paid over much attention to this game on a scumhunting level and Titus has seen my active lurking as something I do early game as town on multiple occasions.

Clearly she's just jealous of FA receiving all my online affections.

I entirely agree that FA is all over the place but I note that FA in my experience with scum!her was a lot more organized and collected.

Somewhat like someone else who is being FoSed in this game for being disorganized.

At any rate, I'm disliking how fast Wickan got going and I have suspicions of Titus so I'm staying here.

[JohnnyFarrar]

Somewhat like someone else who is being FoSed in this game for being disorganized.

Eh? Who?

[RadiantCowbells]

[JohnnyFarrar]

There's no Zoboomafoo in this game, just checked

[RadiantCowbells]